Deadly_Nightshade Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 ...a new regulation that would allow doctors to deny medical services on the basis of their religious or moral beliefs, overriding current state laws... TIME - Special Issue: The Republicans, Page 15 I'll write more about this, and try to post an on-line article or a better picture, tomorrow. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
SteveThaiBinh Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Jolly good. There was a furore in the UK some months back about Muslim student doctors refusing to learn about, or treat, alcohol-related illness. I imagine Mr. Bush would support this whole-heartedly? I, on the other hand, do not. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
Meshugger Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Yes, finally. Doctors who cast moral judgement on what they want to treat on their patients. This is exactly what lies on the interests of the patient, right? "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Xard Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 ...a new regulation that would allow doctors to deny medical services on the basis of their religious or moral beliefs, overriding current state laws... TIME - Special Issue: The Republicans, Page 15 I'll write more about this, and try to post an on-line article or a better picture, tomorrow. summarized: How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Guest The Architect Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Why would a doctor deny medical services on anyone when there's money to be made for them? Or don't American doctors get paid on a fee for service basis any more?
Gorgon Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 What does this mean, that there are doctors who won't perform abortions. I don't see this as a problem unless they would actually refuse to save a woman's life and perform an emergency abortion. That would be criminal. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Walsingham Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I do understand that a doctor should be free to exercise their right to choose, in the same way as I believe a woman ought to. However, a slight side-issue occurs to me: how do you plan emergency services with doctors picking and choosing what they do? What's to stop some white supremacist from refusing to treat black people because he believes they are "tarred with the sin of Cain" or whatever? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Moatilliatta Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Doctors should have the right to choose unless it is an emergency where time matters. My problem with this sort of thing would be information. If a doctor refuses work because of bigotry or something equally ridiculous then I'd like the opportunity to know that and avoid that particular doctor.
Gorgon Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Nonsense, doctors are public servants, we don't allow other branches the right to pick and chose how they treat people. If you have a private clinic and suck fat out of the wealthy you can do as you like, but a public hospital... Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
thepixiesrock Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I have a hard time believing doctors are going to be denying people service, and if any do then they probably wouldn't be doctors that are working in places that require patients to be treated in a super timely fashion. So the people would be able to go somewhere else. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there.
mkreku Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I do understand that a doctor should be free to exercise their right to choose, in the same way as I believe a woman ought to. No. That would be like saying a policeman should be allowed to choose which crimes he wanted to pursue. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
thepixiesrock Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Police already do choose what crimes they want to pursue. Take that society! Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there.
Gorgon Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 That's a question of resources, like when doctors triage patients, not of being philosophically disinclined to do your damn job. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
thepixiesrock Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 No, I meant that in a way as to say all cops are corrupt in a satirical manner. I wasn't trying to make a point. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there.
Gfted1 Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I know here in the states weve had several pharmacists refuse to fill orders for the abortion pill (iirc, RU-482). "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
thepixiesrock Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Wasn't there somehting like that for birth control pills too? Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there.
Humodour Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I have an idea, why don't you elect McSame.
Killian Kalthorne Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I have an idea, why don't you elect McSame. Lets not and say we didn't. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
Gfted1 Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Wasn't there somehting like that for birth control pills too? I havent heard about that one. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
samm Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Oh man, I can't believe it... This is really bad. "Nah, you're a musilm, no treatment for you", "Infusing someone else's blood? That's immoral! Forget it!", "You 'need' the pill only to kill potential life. Not with me..." If capital G will ever have an accident and should be treated by a surgeon, this doctor should refuse. It's immoral and against any belief in humanity and all that's good in the world to let that source of disaster live. Also, it would be ironic, and that's always good Citizen of a country with a racist, hypocritical majority
Deadly_Nightshade Posted September 2, 2008 Author Posted September 2, 2008 What does this mean, that there are doctors who won't perform abortions. Or anything else they feel is against their "religious or moral beliefs" - the title of the piece is misleading in that respect. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Krookie Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Maybe it's just me but I don't think anyone should be forced to kill a baby if they don't want to.
Deadly_Nightshade Posted September 2, 2008 Author Posted September 2, 2008 Maybe it's just me but I don't think anyone should be forced to kill a baby if they don't want to. Fine, that is why there are abortion clinics, but what about prescribing birth-control pills or treating alcohol-related diseases? Those are just two of the infinite number of things "doctors" could withhold for "moral" reasons. What about this, would you support someone who believed that Canadians were evil and deserved no care? If not, how is that any different? "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
samm Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 (edited) Krookie: Yeah, the pill is killing a baby... Just like condoms. Real abortions however that are not necessary for the survival of the mother are allowed only for a few weeks (about 2 months I think) after becoming pregnant and for certain reasons. At least that's the law in my country, as far as I know. Edited September 2, 2008 by samm Citizen of a country with a racist, hypocritical majority
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