Volourn Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/iraq_us_rape_slaying Sure, he has a chance for parole after ten years; but that's harsher than the majority of murderers and rapists get on mainland US. And, frnakly, he deserves it. Still, people like to claim that the US Army ignores crap liekt hat or just slaps the guilty. Not in this case, apparantly... R00fles! DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Morgoth Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 The US always passes ridicilous sentences to people, that's not new. While rape is wrong, 100 years imprisonment is just stupid and senseless. This just shows that the justice system there is in need for an overhaul. Rain makes everything better.
Volourn Posted February 23, 2007 Author Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) WOW! You replied in a completely different way to what I thought would happen. Anyways, yeah, 100 year sentences are kinda a joke. But,t aht;s the point. People claim that the US army allows their soldiers to get away with too much stuff. Apparantly not in this case. Remember, though,t hat while the full setence is 100 years; he's up for parole after 10 years which unless he is completely a fool; he'll likely get. Though, imo, he should get 20 years for his evil misdeeds. Edited February 23, 2007 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
kirottu Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Only thing I This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Joseph Bulock Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 This still seems like a very light sentence. Discarding the symbolic (and most likely meaningless) 100 years sentence, murdering four people to cover up the rape of a child seems like a life in prison thing to me. Or at least twenty five years. Ten years seems very light. My blood! He punched out all my blood! - Meet the Sandvich
metadigital Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I still think torture is in order for people found incontrovertibly guilty of heinous crimes like rape, and especially rape of a child. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Darth Drabek Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I still think torture is in order for people found incontrovertibly guilty of heinous crimes like rape, and especially rape of a child. Yeah, it's not exactly "robbing a bank" on the scale of respectable crime. You won't see George Clooney starring in a movie about a group of dashing rogues who plan a ... gang rape. baby, take off your beret everyone's a critic and most people are DJs
Gorgon Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 thats ONE GUY. Generally speaking not many people disagree that American military tribunals tend to leave American soldiers off with a slap on the wrist, both historically and currently. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Walsingham Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I hate to say it, but most US Army tribunals hand down pretty minor sentences. However, in this case I think firing squad would be more appropriate. I shouldn't think his fellow marines would mind in the least. In fact you'd get a parcel of volunteers. The whole case made me sick. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Sand Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) I would say execution would be light in this case. It should be life without the possibility of parole at a minimum. They did go light on the bugger. Edited February 23, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Shryke Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 dude, that ain't kewl up for parole in 10 years?! let him rot in there i say when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
Sand Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Yep, just a slap on the wrist. In 10 years he might be a free man while his victims are still dead. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
theslug Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 U.S Should utilize harsher penalties like other countries who have very little in the way of crime rates. Child molesters, rapists, murders, etc should definitely receive death penalty since they are likely to not be rehabilitated or some other form of harsh treatment in which they cannot reenter society unless proven otherwise. Like becoming free labor or servitude. There was a time when I questioned the ability for the schizoid to ever experience genuine happiness, at the very least for a prolonged segment of time. I am no closer to finding the answer, however, it has become apparent that contentment is certainly a realizable goal. I find these results to be adequate, if not pleasing. Unfortunately, connection is another subject entirely. When one has sufficiently examined the mind and their emotional constructs, connection can be easily imitated. More data must be gleaned and further collated before a sufficient judgment can be reached.
Dark_Raven Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 I still think torture is in order for people found incontrovertibly guilty of heinous crimes like rape, and especially rape of a child. Rape of a child? A very slow death is the least he deserves and all of those involved. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Atreides Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Unless he changes his name if/when he gets out he'll have a tough time fitting into society. That's tough in itself. Spreading beauty with my katana.
Volourn Posted February 24, 2007 Author Posted February 24, 2007 It's funny. People whine that the US is one of the few 'civilized' nations that still have the death penjalty and then whine when they don't use said penalty. *shrug* Personally, I'd give him at least 20-25 years if not the death penalty. Still, 100 years and being eligble but not guaranteed parole after 10 years isn't exactly light punishment. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Diamond Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 What baffles me is US justice system: 4 murders + rape of a child = up to 100 years teacher blamed for porn popups in school computers = up to 40 years So not preventing porn popups at school computers if you are a teacher = at least 1 murder.
Arkan Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 dude, that ain't kewl up for parole in 10 years?! let him rot in there i say Not on my dime...end it now. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Sand Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 It's funny. People whine that the US is one of the few 'civilized' nations that still have the death penjalty and then whine when they don't use said penalty. *shrug* Personally, I'd give him at least 20-25 years if not the death penalty. Still, 100 years and being eligble but not guaranteed parole after 10 years isn't exactly light punishment. It is a very light punishment for the crime done. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Zoma Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Personally, I believe he ought to be dragged outside into the public, tied up against the pole with the Iraqi public watching the scene and executed by the firing squad. It'll definitely lighten up the anti-american sentiments in Iraq and prevent any future similiar happenings. Of course this method is 'barbaric' and the international/local human rights will start protesting for delivering such method but regardless, this method will be effective.
Morgoth Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Effective for a short while yes, but wrong. Letting the authorities turning into beasts will not reduce such incidents. Rain makes everything better.
taks Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 I hate to say it, but most US Army tribunals hand down pretty minor sentences. i hate to say it walsingham, but there's no way you can know that. the only tribunals we ever hear about are those that make it to the media pages for some reason or another. to judge the entire system by that alone is disingenuous. taks comrade taks... just because.
taks Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 (edited) What baffles me is US justice system: 4 murders + rape of a child = up to 100 years teacher blamed for porn popups in school computers = up to 40 years So not preventing porn popups at school computers if you are a teacher = at least 1 murder. first of all, that's "faces up to 40 years," not "sentenced to 40 years." if you added up all the _possible_ jail time for multiple murders, it can run into hundreds of years pretty quickly. also, the soldier entered a plea agreement, which always results in a reduced sentence. had the gal in this case pled to a lesser charge, she would not have faced such a harsh sentence possibility. i do think it seems a bit ridiculous, though all we have to go on is the viewpoint of the commentary, which is biased towards the defendent. taks Edited February 24, 2007 by taks comrade taks... just because.
Volourn Posted February 24, 2007 Author Posted February 24, 2007 Stupid double posts. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
metadigital Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Fixed! OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
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