Anyone do Ancient Greek around here?

[Tigranes]

No? Because I'm polluting .. uh... the ever-so-clean WoT with this self-benefitial thread. Yep. that's right. Help me so it goes away. (or if a mod is awake. egads.)

 

If anybody knows ancient greek and can tell me what these passages mean:

 

στρατηγοι γαρ τιωες αυτον ερριψαν αισχρως ουτω ερημον, αγρια νοσω καταφθινοντα.

 

ομως τα χρεια τοξα

Edited May 17, 2006 by Tigranes

[astr0creep]

I have bits of the first statement.

 

Seems to be about Generals and deserted areas.

 

That is all.

 

[Tigranes]

You have less than me.

[Baley]

You should pray that Eldar awakens from his harrowing sleep.

[Gfted1]

From babelfish:

 

generals gar tjwes this errjban ajshpws so deserted, wildy nosw katafcjnonta. however the hreja arcs of - Irakleoys arcs - aytw estj and....

 

Glad I could help.

[Walsingham]

From babelfish:

 

generals gar tjwes this errjban ajshpws so deserted, wildy nosw katafcjnonta. however the hreja arcs of - Irakleoys arcs - aytw estj and....

 

Glad I could help.

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Holy Crab Nebula! Man the Archimedes mirrors!

[Cantousent]

Okay, I just got here and I'll check into it immediately. Let's see how fast I can exercise my Attic Greek muscles.

[Tigranes]

Well my own efforts have so far yielded:

 

"For the generals cast him out shamefully and devastated him thus.... (blank)"

 

and

 

""Nevertheless, the bow is needed - the bow of Heracles - and..."

 

but I"m not too sure.

[metadigital]

As I have only just purchased

 

I am not able to be a lot of help, in a timely fashion (yes, Eldar, you convinced me to at least attempt to learn Attic Greek).

[Tigranes]

It's pretty cool, I'd say it was harder to learn than French, though, thanks to all the verbs conjugating like nouns and all.

[metadigital]

I'm not a fan of foreign alphabets ... I have enough trouble trying to learn English ...

[ramza]

Too bad, if it was modern greek, I could have helped you...

 

Where did you find this passage? Are you doing this for your studies?

[Gfted1]

Holy Crab Nebula! Man the Archimedes mirrors!

 

Not too long ago they did an episode of Myth Busters on those mirrors. While they were able to start a fire on a close (under 100m away), stationary vessel, it was very small and not self sustaining.

[Atreides]

^Yeah, but under highly unlikely real-world conditions.

[Cantousent]

τιωες - I'm having a hard time finding the root for this word. Is it some form of of τιω?

 

αισχπως - I'm taking this as shame. Once again, I can't seem to find this word, although αισχως is shame or deformity seem close. Also, αισχρως - is shameful or shame-causing.

 

ερριψαν - is just the 3rd person aorist of "to throw or cast"

 

Okay, I'm going to give my best shot at a translation. Be forewarned, however, I'm simply not sure about this translation.

 

"For some generals cast him out shamefully thus to desolation, the wilderness bringing [him?] to an end in sickness.

Just as there are also here the necessary weapons [bows] - the weapons of Heracles."

 

Sorry, Tigranes, but that's as good as I can do right now. I can look into it later and get back to you this afternoon. I'm sure there are mistakes in all that. The only question is, do the mistakes actually change the basic meaning?

[Cantousent]

toxa is actually neuter, which means the verb will be singular. Welcome to ancient Greek. Regular verbs can be pretty hard to find.

[Musopticon?]

Is this about Troy? I remember something about Herakles' bow being needed in the Trojan war.

[Lucius]

Achilles enjoyed manmeat. For some reason this wasn't shown in Troy :angry:

Edited May 17, 2006 by Lucius

[Musopticon?]

Everyone except Hektor enjoyed manlove in Troy. They just didn't show it.

[Lucius]

 

Hektor was cool though. Only character I liked in the film.

Edited May 17, 2006 by Lucius

[metadigital]

Everyone except Hektor enjoyed manlove in Troy. They just didn't show it.

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... Which is the real reason why he had to die ...

[Musopticon?]

Pretty much yeah.

[Tigranes]

The paragraph is from Iliad I think. It's where they leave Lemnos and take this guy called Philoktetes nobody likes, cause he has Heracles' bow: then they leave him to rot for a while.

 

Eldar: that was my spelling mistakes, tines not tioes and aiskros not aiskpos. Nevertheless, double-checking with that I seem to have got it now:

 

(For) the generals threw him out shamefully and devastated him thus, and he is wasting away with a fierce disease.

 

Still, he has the bow we need

[Lucius]

Mus, is that from Supreme Commander?

[Musopticon?]

Mus, is that from Supreme Commander?

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Well, what do you think? "

 

It's an Aeon illuminate princess, not that the whole forum needs to know