It is easier to rant than to think?

He's referring to Bastila's 'betrayal'...

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R00fles to that. That was nothing.

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And that is why it was lame. Thank you for proving my point, if there was one. I think.

Perhaps the reason why Hades is so opposed to using "I think" is that it implies actual thought...?

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ouch!

You know when someone makes a post it is assumed that it is thier opinion. It would be redundant to state something that it is opinion when it obviously is. Of course that is also assuming one went to elementary school where one learned such skills.

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Ah, but this is the internet, Hades; so certain rules of common sense no longer apply.

 

If they did we wouldn't find so many people trying to "win" at the internet. (note: I'm not implying that you are)

Edited April 15, 200619 yr by Darque

I never win and I never try to win. Its the argument, right or wrong, that matters.

You, you, you, it's always about you

Sometimes it's about me, too.

You, you, you, it's always about you

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Like I said, I am the only person I have to live with.

Sometimes he has to live with me, too.

ever seen those nature shows where they shows chimpanzee behavior? is 2 kinds of chimps: common and bonobo. the bonobo chimps is 'possedley more peaceful. the bonobo females got more social status and sex occurs in pretty much every human varriation and with much frequency. however, the myth of the kinder and gentler bonobo is based simply 'pon the lack of everyday physical violence that occurs with the common chimps. instead, rates of fratricide and patricide and suicide seems to be higher with bonobo than with common chimps... and while common chimps is more likely to kill outsider males, bonobo chimps is the ones that seems to engage in prolonged emotional torment of their fellow troop members. oh, and bonobo females tends to have larger and more prominent breasts than common chimps (and other apes for that matter,) though not to the degree of human females.

 

personally, Gromnir thinks that he would prefer to be a common chimp. sure, there would be less sex and more killings, but watching loner chimps gets emotionally brutalized somehow seems more cruel... and human.

 

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for those that not get our less than subtle chimp crap, Gromnir is saying that we is gonna let vis off the hook... for the time being.

 

HA! Good Fun!

 

Its my hairy back isn't it.

 

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anybody wanna get a dictionary for vis?  shows him a def.  epicness of a work can simply refers to scope and size o' story. 

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epic

n noun

1 a long poem narrating the deeds of heroic or legendary figures or the past history of a nation. ⇒a long film, book, or other work portraying heroic deeds or covering an extended period of time.

2 informal an extremely long and demanding task or activity.

n adjective relating to or characteristic of an epic or epics.

 

DERIVATIVES

epical adjective

epically adverb

 

ORIGIN

C16 (as adjective): via Latin from Greek epikos, from epos 'word, song'.

Hmmm... So it has to be long. Well, that excludes Bioware's games except the Baldur's Gate games.

 

For a CRPG to be considered epic it needs to be at minimum 60 hours long on one's first play through. Also I didn't feel particularly heoric in NWN or KotOR.

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He's referring to Bastila's 'betrayal'...

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R00fles to that. That was nothing.

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And that is why it was lame. Thank you for proving my point, if there was one. I think.

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Why? Should it have been more than what it was?

Hmmm...  So it has to be long.  Well, that excludes Bioware's games except the Baldur's Gate games. 

 

For a CRPG to be considered epic it needs to be at minimum 60 hours long on one's first play through.  Also I didn't feel particularly heoric in NWN or KotOR.

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*sigh*

 

sorry vis, but no loopholes in the def for you. an epic poem is pretty short by game standards... more than one sitting is the rule of thumb for epic length of a poem and given the fact that 90-120 minute films is appropriately described as being movie epics we thinks you is gonna have a hard time holding to the 60 hour mark as some kinda minimum. crpgs, in the relative field of games, is almost all certainly long 'nuff.

 

HA! Good Fun!

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however, we does note that length can be a debatable attribute of a work described as epic. vis is not clearly and objectively wrong 'bout his 60 hours min. thing.

 

HA! Good Fun!

For a movie to be epic. at least length wise, needs to be int he 3 to 4 hours range. For a miniseries, around 6 to 8 hours without commericals. For computer games, especially the CRPG genre, no less than 60 hours of gameplay.

 

Different mediums have different standards.

I would like to see what microsoft has to offer to combat with PS3. I don't think Gears of War will quite pull it off. Now, if there was a preview for Halo3 or KotOR 3 for Xbox 360, then I'd be intereseted.

For a movie to be epic. at least length wise, needs to be int he 3 to 4 hours range.  For a miniseries, around 6 to 8 hours without commericals.  For computer games, especially the CRPG genre, no less than 60 hours of gameplay.

 

Different mediums have different standards.

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Correct. It should be 30-60+ hours of quality game play.

With what authority do you two tell what's epic and what's not?

For computer games, especially the CRPG genre, no less than 60 hours of gameplay.

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Curious, considering the Baldur's Gate series is called epic and I've spent a single playthrough of the entire series in less than 60 hours.

 

OMGOSH NOT EPIC!

Yeah, but then with sidequests and without walkthroughs I completed Jade Empire in one 11-hour sitting. I believe most claimed it to be 20+.

60 hours of hack&slash and looting dungeons is epic!

For computer games, especially the CRPG genre, no less than 60 hours of gameplay.

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Curious, considering the Baldur's Gate series is called epic and I've spent a single playthrough of the entire series in less than 60 hours.

 

OMGOSH NOT EPIC!

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I spent 80 plus hours alone on BG 1 and nearly a 100 hours on BG2. WHat were you doing?!?!? Speed gaming through it.