Meshugger Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 A brave arabic woman one speaks against muslim clergy. It was on Al-Jazeera two weeks ago. Hats off to that woman, too bad she'll probably "dissapear" before this years end. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Kudos. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 (edited) Wow. She kick's major ass. We need more of her type in the Arab nations. Strike that, we need more women like that all over the world. Edited March 5, 2006 by 6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Very impressive. I wish I could see the whole debate, without the edits - I wonder how her views were received. I'm pleased that Al-Jazeera, depicted by some as al-Qaeda's mouthpiece, would give her a chance to air her views in some detail. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 She crazy. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WITHTEETH Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 As a fellow secular humanist, she rocked! Good post. Always outnumbered, never out gunned! Unreal Tournament 2004 Handle:Enlight_2.0 Myspace Website! My rig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Aren't we all. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Rocking? OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Rocking the boat! Am I right fellas? I mean, am I right? Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 She makes valid and reasonable points but since she isn't muslim and there is no indication as to whether she is even arab or in the middle east at the time of broadcast, it isn't anything special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 She's probably from Turkey There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Keep it on topic. It's good she gave voice but a shame she will not around for too much longer for her actions. "Nail that sticks out, gets hammered." Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 It's good she gave voice but a shame she will not around for too much longer for her actions. "Nail that sticks out, gets hammered." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What do you mean by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 (edited) It's good she gave voice but a shame she will not around for too much longer for her actions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can I borrow your time machine sometime? Because thats really the only way you would know that for sure, unless you plan on killing her. Edited March 5, 2006 by thepixiesrock Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 It's good she gave voice but a shame she will not around for too much longer for her actions. "Nail that sticks out, gets hammered." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What do you mean by that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When someone sticks up for others, against a powerful force like a government, they will usually get themselves into trouble. By being silenced by any means necessary. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Visible and outspoken critics of Islam, particularly apostates (if that's what she is), have lived under the threat of death in many countries, and some have indeed been murdered for expressing their beliefs. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 (edited) Another famous female muslim critic of Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirsi_Ali So many muslim extremists want her dead that they had to pull the whole Salman Rushdie treatment on her. Her partner in making the short film "submission" Theo van Gogh refused protection and was murdered. Edited March 5, 2006 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I think there is a large amount of misunderstanding of Islamic cultures in the Middle East and elsewhere. Remember Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world, by population. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 "some have indeed been murdered for expressing their beliefs." Key word is 'some'. The odds ar ein her favor of living. Also, IIRC, on another message board that linked it someone borught up the fact that not only is she *not* Muslim; she is also Amerikan not really from the 'middle east'. I cna't confirm 'cause sadly this video doesn't work for me odd enough. Either way, good for her! However, I think the bravest wom(en) in the ME are the ones who go to school, enter politcis, etc. every day under the threat of death constantly. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Yeah, it does say she is an Arab-American. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 That does undermine her credibility somewhat. Growing up in the US is a bit different than the ME DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I don't particular care if she grew up in Argentina. Religious fanatics, especially Islamic fanaticals who have no problem blowing themselves up in order to kil as many as they can, need to grow up and start living in the 21st century. Religion had its time but that time is over for it is no longer needed as a social institution. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Moth Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Religion had its time but that time is over for it is no longer needed as a social institution. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hades, you bewilder me. You repeatedly express your belief in God yet you deny it elsewhere. Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I do not go by belief, but what I know. Does God exist, yes. Do I worship him? F**k no. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Moth Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I do not go by belief, but what I know. Does God exist, yes. Do I worship him? F**k no. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay. You're an empirical rationalist from what you say, yet believe in God. So what evidence do you have that "proves" God exists to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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