SteveThaiBinh Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Malak, one of nature's henchmen, rose to become Sith Lord, thus proving that the Sith philosophy of 'the apprentice replaces the master' isn't practical. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Malak for reasons already mentioned in this thread. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxen83 Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 (edited) Darth Maul tends to use only a double-bladed lightsaber and little of the force. At least most of the other sith lords were generally force users. Especially Count Dooku. Edited November 28, 2005 by vaxen83 Deep from within... Victims live a life of fantasy. Some see salvation as an act of God, a few look within for it. 朱宣澧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Moth Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I'd vote Sion if he were an option. And for the record, Vader wasn't stupid. Anakin was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Maverick Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 I did not put Sion because he "Be mindful of the currents of the living Force; to do one's duty is not always to do right. Concern yourself with the right action. Let duty take care of itself." -Qui-Gon's voice to Anakin Skywalker " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masta Revan Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 You know you would think that Darth Malak would of at least Learned from Lord revan its kind of sad that he didn't cause revan is very intelligent so you would at least think malak would be a smart aprentice. Revan is pretty stupid for pickink Malak as an aprentice. I pitty the fool who don't have the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufflover Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 And for the record, Vader wasn't stupid. Anakin was. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, very true...but I stand by association they're the same :D Besides, he was named Darth Vader before the final fight so it actually was Vader, just not in his famous form. Pure Pazaak - The Stand-alone Multiplayer Pazaak Game (link to Obsidian board thread) Pure Pazaak website (big thank you to fingolfin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_hunter101 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Malak was the lamest lord i've ever seen and what is up with blue paint on his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedielfsorcerer Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) i say malak because he does not use stratagies that revan and other sith lords used. he just use brut strength. and that does not always work. down with malak. Smilie cleaning -Battlewookiee Edited December 4, 2005 by Battlewookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth jonarn Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I'm going with Palpatine. The man could not fight with a saber. 'Nuff said. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I'm going with Palpatine. The man could not fight with a saber. 'Nuff said. :angry: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> With his knowledge and power with the force why would he even need to bother with a lightsaber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdez Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I'm going with Palpatine. The man could not fight with a saber. 'Nuff said. :angry: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh so no saber=dumb? Sorry I don't see the logic behind that . Palpatine was propably one of the most cunning if not the most cunning sith lords of all time. His empire was the $h!t. No one could mess with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darknesslord Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 and he was excellent with a lightsaber. killed 2 master jedi and kept up with windu. did you not see revenge of the sith?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 and he was excellent with a lightsaber. killed 2 master jedi and kept up with windu. did you not see revenge of the sith?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He killed three, and according to the novel, they were the best available swordsmen that Windu had on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufflover Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 and he was excellent with a lightsaber. killed 2 master jedi and kept up with windu. did you not see revenge of the sith?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He killed three, and according to the novel, they were the best available swordsmen that Windu had on hand. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, with the exception of Anakin (lol, 2 of them didn't even get to show their skills). Anyway the important point is that Sidious is clearly one of the smartest schemers and can hold his own in a lightsaber fight. Pure Pazaak - The Stand-alone Multiplayer Pazaak Game (link to Obsidian board thread) Pure Pazaak website (big thank you to fingolfin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 lol, i chose malak only to discover that so did many others. i agree with what people said about how malak should have learned from revan, and malak wasn't very good tactically. he needed bastila just to have an edge over the republic. whereas Revan would have torn through the republic like he did the mandalorians. I don't see why people think Darth Maul is the dumbest. he was just another puppet of Palpatine like Dooku, that one chick with dual lightsabers in the clone wars cartoons, and then anakin too. they are all the same level of dumb, except anakin ends up redeeming himself by saving his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Master D Murda Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Well, with the exception of Anakin (lol, 2 of them didn't even get to show their skills). Anyway the important point is that Sidious is clearly one of the smartest schemers and can hold his own in a lightsaber fight. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sidious wasn't that great with a lightsaber. He got owned by Windu and Yoda and had to use the force(lightning and hurling pods) to beat them, but by far was the best Sith Lord of all time. Vader, IMHO, was probably the dumbest or least intelligent. Even in some of the books that take place after the OT was described as nothing more than a brute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Vader is NOT dumb..................You cant be a Commander of a Fleet unless you were intelligant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdez Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) Well, with the exception of Anakin (lol, 2 of them didn't even get to show their skills). Anyway the important point is that Sidious is clearly one of the smartest schemers and can hold his own in a lightsaber fight. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sidious wasn't that great with a lightsaber. He got owned by Windu and Yoda and had to use the force(lightning and hurling pods) to beat them, but by far was the best Sith Lord of all time. Vader, IMHO, was probably the dumbest or least intelligent. Even in some of the books that take place after the OT was described as nothing more than a brute. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can argue that Sidious was letting Windu own him so that Anakin would step in Edited December 6, 2005 by foxdez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 You can argue that Sidious was letting Windu own him so that Anakin would step in <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There shouldn't even be an argument, he totally did that on purpose. at any time he could've stopped his force lightning from killing himself and used a force push instead or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Sidious is smart enought to get himself Emperor, then he would be smart enought to learn Force Push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 He spent too many points learning Force Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahf Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Why does everyone think Malak's a bonehead?Vader's got to be the idiot. In Episode 3, he doesnt think-Palpatine does it for him. At the end, you see what happens when he starts thinking-he gets his stupid legs chopped off from doing a suicidal move. In Episode 3, Darth Vader was a fool and a pawn of the darkside. Every other sith had some brain cells, escpecially the highly intelligent, highly manipulative Sidious and Traya. Also, Maul has about two lines in TPM. He does his talking with some amazing lightsaber duelling; No other Sith Lord have I ever seen fight like that, and all he did was let down his guard for one second, resulting in death-not what I call stupid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think its clear that to judge Vader as a Sith Lord, we should at least *consider* episodes 4-6, since by that time he had some experience, whereas in Episode 3 he just became a Sith Lord like 20 minutes ago... And in 4-6 Vader can hardly be characterized as "dumb" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufflover Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Fine, Vader isn't dumb, just gullible/total sucker. Pure Pazaak - The Stand-alone Multiplayer Pazaak Game (link to Obsidian board thread) Pure Pazaak website (big thank you to fingolfin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Fine, Vader isn't dumb, just gullible/total sucker. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quite right, quite right. You could sell him ocean front property in Utah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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