Naughty naughty Microsoft.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

I could have called it MS is full of crap but I thought i'd be diplomatic. Read some of the forum responses though, clearly they didnt feel quite the same way.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=61708

 

I'll stick in the relevent bits for the link shy.

 

"Microsoft has refused to confirm rumours that flagship title Project Gotham Racing 3 won't run at 720p - but they're not exactly denying it, either.

 

"The only performance number a gamer should care about is the output, as that is what is actually viewed and enjoyed," a Microsoft spokesperson told Eurogamer".

 

"Microsoft has previously stated that all Xbox 360 games will run in high definition - according to a statement on Xbox.com, "Games are required to be authored for 720p and 1080i."

 

"Microsoft did, however - and the spokesperson told us that this isn't an issue for gamers: "What is going on behind the scenes in the code or the HW to get the incredible visuals for Xbox 360 is not what gamers care about.

 

"They just care about playing great looking and innovative games, and that is exactly what Xbox 360 and the launch lineup has provided."

[mkreku]

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3145713&did=1

 

1up reviews Project Gotham Racing 3.. 10/10

 

All reviewers will be blinded by the graphics for a while. Better get used to it fast.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3145713&did=1

 

1up reviews Project Gotham Racing 3.. 10/10 

 

All reviewers will be blinded by the graphics for a while. Better get used to it fast.

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Reviewing games with so few of them out seems a bit pointless anyway. It's not like your spoiled for choice or anything.

[Hurlshort]

Definitely agree on that, the best racing game on the 360 is a pretty useless award right now.

 

I do kinda agree with the spokesperson though...will gamers really care about numbers if the performance is great?

[LoneWolf16]

Definitely agree on that, the best racing game on the 360 is a pretty useless award right now. 

 

I do kinda agree with the spokesperson though...will gamers really care about numbers if the performance is great?

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Well, I think the point is that they said, specifically, that all games would be up at 720p and 1080i. And now, apparently, they're copping out on that promise.

Edited November 16, 2005 by LoneWolf16

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Definitely agree on that, the best racing game on the 360 is a pretty useless award right now. 

 

I do kinda agree with the spokesperson though...will gamers really care about numbers if the performance is great?

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Well there is a bit of a story behind it. Which is that they couldnt get the game to work in the proper resolution and still run at 60 fps. It's the willingness to cut quality corners to make deadlines that set the alarm bells ringing.

 

Oh came across this too and it made me laugh

 

(might help if you played Shadow of Collosus buy anyway).

 

If your wonder what "collusus that is, it's the 360 power supply.

[Nartwak]

<_<

[Jumjalum]

Definitely agree on that, the best racing game on the 360 is a pretty useless award right now. 

 

I do kinda agree with the spokesperson though...will gamers really care about numbers if the performance is great?

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Well there is a bit of a story behind it. Which is that they couldnt get the game to work in the proper resolution and still run at 60 fps. It's the willingness to cut quality corners to make deadlines that set the alarm bells ringing.

 

Oh came across this too and it made me laugh

 

(might help if you played Shadow of Collosus buy anyway).

 

If your wonder what "collusus that is, it's the 360 power supply.

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You could help monkeys evolve with that thing!

[Child of Flame]

Maybe it's part of the plot of the chimps!

[Volourn]

Whats the big deal here? Quality is all that matters; not stupid numbers.

[LoneWolf16]

Whats the big deal here? Quality is all that matters; not stupid numbers.

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Higher resolution = Higher quality.

[BattleCookiee]

Whats the big deal here? Quality is all that matters; not stupid numbers.

Higher resolution = Higher quality.

 

Graphically, yes...

Gameplay... probably not

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Whats the big deal here? Quality is all that matters; not stupid numbers.

Higher resolution = Higher quality.

 

Graphically, yes...

Gameplay... probably not

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For gameplay I'm pinning my hopes on the Revolution. At least it wont distract the developers into making the same game as before with prettier pictures.

 

From the people who have played it in pods etc. PGR isnt a 10/10 not even close.

[Volourn]

"Higher resolution = Higher quality."

 

I doubt the difference is so huge that a non techie like myself will really notice that much difference as to hurt my enjoyment of a game's graphics.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

"Higher resolution = Higher quality."

 

I doubt the difference is so huge that a non techie like myself will really notice that much difference as to hurt my enjoyment of a game's graphics.

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Do you have a HDTV ? The differences are more apparent. Unless it was goofy cable.

[LoneWolf16]

"Higher resolution = Higher quality."

 

I doubt the difference is so huge that a non techie like myself will really notice that much difference as to hurt my enjoyment of a game's graphics.

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True, for the most part...but you specifically said "Quality is all that matters", and higher resolution does equal higher (Yes, Wookie, I know, but graphics are part of the whole package.) over all quality. Technical, but I'm still right.

[Jedi Master Dakari]

Graphically, yes...

Gameplay... probably not

 

I agree, completely, Battlewookiee.

 

A game with good graphics does not make it a good game. The gamin industry has, in my opinion, just fallen completely apart. They have focused more on recycling the same games over and over and over again, only with better graphics and the latest technology for the "next-gen" console.

 

A word of warning, people - incase you have figured it out by now. There will always be "next-gen" consoles. Technology is always evolving and getting better. Once the new systems come out, I would really appreciate if the developers get back to making worthwhile games.

 

My views on the matter are thus: I love great graphics. They really do add so much to a good game. Notice, however, that I said "add to a good game" and not "make a game good"? If a game has awesome graphics, but a poor story and poor function, then what good is it?

 

Once you've played one racing game, you've really played them all. Once you've played once wrestling game, you've played them all. Now that the good graphics are finally here, I am look more innovation not in graphics or hardware power, but in writing, gameplay, and spirit. And game worth playing.

 

I get bored very quickly just driving through a city with nothing to do but go in circles or run over old woman. :ph34r:

 

 

Well, that's my take on the whole matter.

 

P.S. Though I would like to add the little extra comment that the graphic on these new consoles just barely come to parr with what has been out for years on the PC. Many of the "next-gen" games on cross-platform with PC and XBOX360 have had to be played down so it would run properly on the 360.

 

But granted, graphics have come a long way. I am especially glad that cross-platform games will no longer be greatly restricted due to a console's inabilities. Because those inabilities are slim-to-none at the moment.

[Meshugger]

I agree with Paladin here. Those who bought a 51" HDTV in order to play PGR 3 at 720p will not be pleased.

[metadigital]

All four of you.

[alanschu]

Ah meta...

[Laozi]

All four of you.

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[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

I didnt buy a new TV specifically to play console games. Needed one anyway and not buying a HD one seemed a bit stupid given that I'd probably end up buying another within a year anyway.

[Cantousent]

I agree with Paladin here. Those who bought a 51" HDTV in order to play PGR 3 at 720p will not be pleased.

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I needed a good laugh. Total comedy.

[Calax]

Just to get this out there, there will me a Halo master chiefesque character in Dead Or Alive four for the Xbox... It'll be spartan 453 (a Lady) going up against a freaking ninja.

[Surreptishus]

When the original Xbox came out i thought Project Gotham was something to do with Batman.

 

Does it matter if PGR3 doesnt run at hi res? The majority audience will be

a)too young to notice/give a crap.

 

OR

 

b)Too drunk to notice/give a crap