213374U Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) Wouldn't it be easier to just post the link to the first result returned when Googling for "plasma weapon", instead of quoting the whole article? I mean, I could have done just the same with the stuff from Wikipedia, but you see, that is the kind of stuff that makes a thread somewhat unreadable. And anyone can Google, methinks. Folks come here for the debate. Edited September 29, 2005 by 213374U - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I say disrupter technology still beats plasma rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 When you feel pain from my photon torpedoes, you will wish for another chance. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I will not shout Khan at the top of my longs, nor quote Klingon proverbs. I will not derail this thread further. Instead I will ask how many states of matter do you really think there are and should we rethink the way we view states of matter as being fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiser_Cain Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I say disrupter technology still beats plasma rifles. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All the blasters from startrek are suicide devices as the energy they'd release vaporising a target twenty feet from the user would asplode, killing everyone. Yaw devs, Yaw!!! ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I say disrupter technology still beats plasma rifles. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All the blasters from startrek are suicide devices as the energy they'd release vaporising a target twenty feet from the user would asplode, killing everyone. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is possible to contain and direct energy, hence lasers and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiser_Cain Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Sure, but that's not where the problem is. destroying the body the way these weapons are suppose to releases a lot of energy very fast. where's this energy go? Yaw devs, Yaw!!! ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 and yet you kill yourself every time you go into a transporter in star trek... Thank you Hilde. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiser_Cain Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Yes, but your clone lives on with the delusion that it's you. Yaw devs, Yaw!!! ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Jedi Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) There are theories that plasma is the fourth state of matter. I don't know how could someone use this as a weapon. The only things consisting of plasma are stars with temperatures +40 000 C (I am not sure if this is the real temperature) Edited September 29, 2005 by Bulgarian Jedi Нека Силата винаги бъде с теб! I reject your reality, and substitute it with my own. Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. John Lenon This thread is a big "hey, f*** you!" to the humanity's intelligence. 571911[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Wouldn't it be easier to just post the link to the first result returned when Googling for "plasma weapon", instead of quoting the whole article? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't post the whole article, that's excatly why I didn't post a link because there were many unnecessary info.... I mean, I could have done just the same with the stuff from Wikipedia, but you see, that is the kind of stuff that makes a thread somewhat unreadable. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes you could, and I disagree it's unreadable....I didn't post anything in Swahili or something so one can't understand. The post is a bit too long, but if you don't like ut then skip it and if it ruins for you the 'artistic' nature of a thread then I'm sorry, you'll just have to live with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 There are theories that plasma is the fourth state of matter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Isn't that a fact? I don't know how could someone use this as a weapon. The only things consisting of plasma are stars with temperatures +40 000 C (I am not sure if this is the real temperature) Or say, plasma torches for underwater welding I believe neon lights are plasma (when they are glowing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Yeah, ok but 40 watts sounds like a limited range for a plasma rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 (edited) I didn't post the whole article, that's excatly why I didn't post a link because there were many unnecessary info.... So, now you get to say what's relevant and what's not about an article? Just post the link and let me decide for myself what's "unnecessary" and what isn't, instead of attempting to spoon feed me the info. Yes you could, and I disagree it's unreadable....I didn't post anything in Swahili or something so one can't understand. The post is a bit too long, but if you don't like ut then skip it and if it ruins for you the 'artistic' nature of a thread then I'm sorry, you'll just have to live with it... Skipping it causes my mousewheel finger to be sore. And if there's something I lack, that's "artistic" sense, so no. It's just that, as I said and you conveniently ignored, most people come here for the debate, not to have smartasses copy & paste Google first results to them. ) Edited September 29, 2005 by 213374U - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 EnderAndrew, you were a Marine, are the plasma rifles really as cool as they seem, do they kick? Is Ripley really that good with the robo-forklift? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ha. I strongly disagree with the portrayal of officers in that flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Schmarth Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 The only things consisting of plasma are stars with temperatures +40 000 C (I am not sure if this is the real temperature) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow, that's like so hot you could boil a thousand eggs on it. ^Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child of Flame Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Yes you could, and I disagree it's unreadable....I didn't post anything in Swahili or something so one can't understand. The post is a bit too long, but if you don't like ut then skip it and if it ruins for you the 'artistic' nature of a thread then I'm sorry, you'll just have to live with it... Skipping it causes my mousewheel finger to be sore. And if there's something I lack, that's "artistic" sense, so no. It's just that, as I said and you conveniently ignored, most people come here for the debate, not to have smartasses copy & paste Google first results to them. ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Google's First Results Due Google is set to release its first results as a public company after the close of business on Thursday, and they are expected to be good, though some analysts caution that Google stock is overpriced Financial analysts are predicting strong third-quarter earnings for Google on growth of search-related advertising, but some caution that its stock is still overvalued. The search provider will report earnings for the first time as a public company after market close Thursday. Financial analysts are projecting that it will earn 54 cents a share on revenue of $456m in the third quarter, according to a consensus of analysts surveyed by Thomson First Call. "One of the reasons we expect the third quarter to be strong is because international search was better than expected this quarter, bucking seasonal trends," said Marianne Wolk, an analyst at Susquehanna Financial Group. But because the company has offered little guidance to Wall Street, as Google's founders stated in its IPO prospectus, the range of expectations still varies widely. Analysts' estimates on revenue range between $440m and $474m for the quarter, according to First Call. At least one research firm believes that Google's stock is overpriced, based on its earnings per share growth rate from 2004 to 2005. "On a price-to-earnings ratio...we value Google's stock at $100 based also on a 20 percent discount to Yahoo's current valuation," financial analyst Martin Pyykkonen of Janco Partners wrote in a research note. Since Google's initial public offering in August, which raised about $1.7bn, its shares have shot up from about $95 to Wednesday's closing price of $140.49. That gives the company a market cap of about $38bn. Analysts said they expect Google to follow Yahoo's lead when it comes to growth in commercial search, the hottest sector of the rebounding online advertising business. Rival Yahoo reported last week that its quarterly profit more than tripled from the previous year, buoyed by online advertising and its buyout of commercial search specialist Overture Services. Yahoo reported net income of $253.3m, or 17 cents a share, in the third quarter. That's compared with $65.3m, or 5 cents a share, in the same period in 2003. Several analysts calculated from Yahoo's earnings that its revenue from search-related ads rose by about 13 percent in the third quarter. Google should follow suit, they say, both in the United States and on an international front. What's uncertain to some analysts is Google's operating expenses. Visibility into how much Google is investing in research and development, as well as sales and marketing, is cloudy, they say. But Mark Mahaney, a financial analyst at American Technology Research, said he expects its operating expenses to rise 6 percent to $220m on earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation (EBITDA). That excludes traffic acquisition costs, stock-based compensation and a charge related to a settlement with Yahoo. "If it's materially higher or lower than that, it could have stock ramifications in Google vs Yahoo," Mahaney said. He expects Google to report $467m in net revenue, with 12 percent to 13 percent sequential revenue growth in paid search. Google will buck a trend toward weaker third-quarter sales that has affected other companies, analysts expect, based on an "IPO effect" that has spurred demand. Analysts project Google's earnings to rise sequentially from between 10 percent and 13 percent. From June to September, sales for companies such as eBay and Amazon.com have tended to be flat or down as much as 5 percent on weaker demand during those months, they say. Google also has primed its financial pump with a constant stream of new products. It recently began testing a desktop search tool, personalised search and free Web-based email -- all services to help endear Web searchers and broaden its advertising network. To this end, the company is rumoured to be working on developing a Web browser, an instant chat service and a thin-client operating system. "They have people working on just about any computer science project," Mahaney said. "The question is: Which are their top priorities, and how do they view each of those as viable business opportunities?" Google has also been aggressive when it comes to acquiring new strategic partnerships. This week, it secured a deal to deliver search-related ads to America Online Europe, shutting out former AOL partner Overture for the business. Analysts said that deal should offset Google's recent loss of an advertising deal with Yahoo Japan, which Overture took over on 1 June. So-called traffic acquisition costs are estimated to eat away 80 percent of revenue for Google and Yahoo, analysts say. That means that Google and Yahoo agree to grant as much as 80 percent of the fees from search ads to partners such as AOL and Microsoft's MSN. But Susquehanna Financial's Wolk said she expects that Google agreed to pay as much as 85 percent to secure the AOL Europe deal. For this reason, Janco's Pyykonen especially wants to see Google diversify from its dependence on search-related advertising, which accounts for 98 percent of its revenue. Other financial analysts are looking for gains in areas of local advertising and international growth individually for Google. "Search has been one of the strongest vehicles for online advertising, and Google has been a leader," Wolk said. "The pace of growth will depend on how quickly Google, Yahoo and MSN develop new markets such as local, international and behavioural [advertising]." ??? 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Kaftan Barlast Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 A lot of fuss about simple ionized gas " DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 ??? !!! - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Martyniuk Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 If I remember correctly there are some breads of giant arachnids that can shoot plasma out of their asses at space ships in orbit Excuse my sudden intrusion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julianw Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 If I remember correctly there are some breads of giant arachnids that can shoot plasma out of their asses at space ships in orbit <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Worst action movie. Ever. The girls are hot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Martyniuk Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Ya but not THAT hot, when the red head dies, that might be the worse scene ever, but its hard to say. I had just read the book when I went to see the movie, and I expected to see people in giant exo-suits fighting giant spider/lobster halfbreads, and I got stuck with that crap. Worse yet, my friend Joesph liked the movie so much that he joined the Marines shortly there after. He even got Death From Above on his arm, although we all tried to get him drunk so he would get Death From Below instead. Needless to say that after bootcamp he failed his mental wellness exam Excuse my sudden intrusion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Jedi Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 There are theories that plasma is the fourth state of matter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Isn't that a fact? I don't know how could someone use this as a weapon. The only things consisting of plasma are stars with temperatures +40 000 C (I am not sure if this is the real temperature) Or say, plasma torches for underwater welding I believe neon lights are plasma (when they are glowing) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Weel, as far as I know, it is not a fact. The scientific communities haven't agreed and I doubt they will come to a decsion soon. By the way wikipedia has some hice examples of where plasma can be find. The temperature of our sun is 4000 K, which is exactly 3726.85 C. I don't know why I said it was 40 000C. It is still hot though Нека Силата винаги бъде с теб! I reject your reality, and substitute it with my own. Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. John Lenon This thread is a big "hey, f*** you!" to the humanity's intelligence. 571911[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 The temperature of our sun is 4000 K, which is exactly 3726.85 C. I don't know why I said it was 40 000C. It is still hot though <{POST_SNAPBACK}> the corona is several million degrees... very hot stuff. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 If you watched Stargate SG-1, you would know that simple projectile weapons are more effective for killing and stuff, whereas showy weapons like laser/plasma thingies are only good for terrorising peasants and other humble folk. That's according to Jack O'Neill, anyway. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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