Magena Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Did anyone else see this on G4? I hadn't realized what the history was of sex in games... or for that matter how much sex really has been in games.
EnderAndrew Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 There is sex on the Simpsons and no one cares, but we should care there is sex in video games? Every music video on MTV is about sex. We market 15 year old girls are sex symbols. People are just hyprocritical when it comes to sex.
Magena Posted August 24, 2005 Author Posted August 24, 2005 One thing that they talked about in the show is that there is sex in movies and that is acceptable, but it isn't in computer games. They also went on to talk about if the rating system was acceptable. - and it was pointed out that "not for children" is listed on GTA -- also that the people who are up in arms about GTA:SA should have started making noise when it was realized in GTA that you could hire a prostitute, then beat her up and get your money back.
EnderAndrew Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 The game got a Mature rating, which means you should be 17 to play it. If you are 17 you can see Sin City, but you can't play GTA:SA?
Magena Posted August 24, 2005 Author Posted August 24, 2005 The game got a Mature rating, which means you should be 17 to play it. If you are 17 you can see Sin City, but you can't play GTA:SA? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. I don't actually think that was the argument... close, but it had more to do with the fact that although there is a rating system in place, the stores that sell the games apparently aren't responsible for implementing the system. - When I worked in a game store, we always carded, and if it looked like a parent was picking up the game, we let them know what they were actually picking up instead of leaving it to the kids to tell their parents how great the game is, and how much they needed it. The bottom line was if the game industry should be regulated from within or from outside. It was interesting to see how far Leisure Suit Larry has gone from his initial game to the latest.
Musopticon? Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 http://www.gamershell.com/articles/943.html This article might interest you. I actually made a topic about it a while back. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
EnderAndrew Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I went into R rated movies all the time as a kid as well. So I think the movie comparison is valid.
kirottu Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Damn. I though this was a topic about hentai games. This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Musopticon? Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 not going to comment...NOT going to comment...show restraint.... kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Magena Posted August 24, 2005 Author Posted August 24, 2005 Sex sells. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Always! I still think it is funny that we can blow people up and that is ok, but introduce phsyical contact in a suggestive way, and ya'd think people were going to die from being blinded. - of course, most of the people I see doing this I know have had sex, because they have children.
Lucius Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I second that, blowing people up, committing genocide and what not is just friggin fine, but showing a little skin (ok, maybe a bit more than that) is DAMAGING, it's a NONO!. I don't know if people obey rules of censor and ratings in the UK/US, but here nothing is censored, nor rated as such, except for a few cinema flicks which noone cares to check up on anyhow. DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting.
Kaftan Barlast Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 This fear of sex is nothing more than leftovers from Christian moral doctrine. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Archmonarch Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 ...introduce phsyical contact in a suggestive way, and ya'd think people were going to die from being blinded... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> More humorous than anything else, but I recently read a report on some scientific site (cant remember exactly which one) that said seeing a sexually suggestive image does create an almost nonexistent moment of blindness and for that reason, some governments were trying to ban them from road signs so as to prevent auto accidents. And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had
213374U Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 "Sex in games" Yes, please. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Child of Flame Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 HAWT! But in all seriousness, the new Sketcher's ads are worse than anything I've ever seen in a videogame (Hentai excluded, though I haven't played those, just read the SA reviews ). The first time I saw one of those, I thought to myself, "They're selling shoes?!!"
Kaftan Barlast Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 The first time I saw one of those, I thought to myself, "They're selling shoes?!!" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is it like the faked(although some say it was a clever PR job) puma ads that featured Fellatio? DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Child of Flame Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I don't think so. Basically: Scantily clad lady in catsuit looking string bikini, straddling adonis looking male, grinding her crotch on his and embracing. That's pretty extreme as American ads go.
Calax Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I haven't seen it either so.... yeah. I think that there should be more sex in the world, and media. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Guest Fishboot Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Sex sells. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does it really, though? AFAIK games that trade on strong sexualization like Bloodrayne or whatever that non-Al Lowe LSL game was called didn't fly off the shelves. I think sex doesn't really sell video games in a conventional sense. That article that someone posted went on about the sexualized Dark Elves in WoW, but really I barely noticed when I played - the game wasn't wall to wall with people stripping down and doing dance emotes, and in fact I think that kind of thing was stigmatized as infantile (insofar as anything can be infantile on an MMORPG scale). Some people want to keep their amusement and their pornography as polar opposites, and don't ken socially acceptable erotica. And I think a Venn diagram would show that a lot of those people are gamers. Call it puritanism if you like.
Kaftan Barlast Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 That sex sells is one of the biggest myths of our society, it is completely false. As Fishboot says, noone will buy a game just because it has voluptuous women on the cover or in it. It is of course true of all types of products and advertising. I have to admit I look a little longer at an ad that has a gorgeous woman on it but it doesnt in the least make me want to purchase the product. In fact, Ive learnt to automaticly ignore advertising. Its just background noise. And of course we have exhibit A- the sales figures of such excellent movies as "Barb Wire" or those other quality films Ive since long ereased from my memory :D DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
metadigital Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 There is sex on the Simpsons and no one cares, but we should care there is sex in video games? Every music video on MTV is about sex. We market 15 year old girls are sex symbols. People are just hyprocritical when it comes to sex. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is so true. Turn on a music broadcast station; if it's playing a rap album there will be young women gleefully portraying submissive sexual acts and objectifying themselves with the message that women are shallow and will give favours commensurate with the material reward given ... ... And people are on a crusade against games? I agree that video games seem to be the fixation for this generation ("X", or is it the Baby-boomers in control of the media "talkback" and "opinion polls") who are now hypocritically in total-puritanical mode. This is the current parents love-to-hate teenage trend: like rap and even Elvis before. It'll blow over, but not before some people's reputations are shot. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Cathryn Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I can't stand G4 so I don't know anything specifically about that show, but I think that Wal-Mart won't carry video games with strong sexual content and that has a lot to do with how far games take sexual themes. I read that companies are trying now to corner the 'elusive' female gamer market, and given what the men making video games seem think women want to see, this may be bad (The Sims...ugh). The only thing I personally find offensive is the idea that I'm supposed to be offended by a certain type of content. Slap a warning sticker on it and let me choose whether or not I want to see it, thanks. That article about avatars was amusing. I laugh when people talk about how over-sexualized female avatars in every video game are...the male ones are just as overdone!
Child of Flame Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Well yeah Cathryn, but the male ones are missing the critical element to make them over sexualized. The boobs. There can be no over sexualization, or nay, even any attractiveness without boobs. Moobs? Perish the thought. This message brought to you courtesy of Zap Brannigan.
Darth Drabek Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 The first time I saw one of those, I thought to myself, "They're selling shoes?!!" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is it like the faked(although some say it was a clever PR job) puma ads that featured Fellatio? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those ads were scandalous! baby, take off your beret everyone's a critic and most people are DJs
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