6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 regardless, old skool kewl slow levelling were never kewl. it were a mistake that the developers tried to fix. May not have been cool but it did make better gaming, at least for me. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 It's all down to balance. There are very enjoyable aspects associated with low-level character interactions, just as there are with epic levels, and every level in between as long as the interactions are balanced. Some people may not find a game dynamic interesting if it means working with a PC that is not very powerful (and we needn't go into the reasons OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 We've been over this before. I eventually massively cheated in BG1 because I was bored. I explored every map to the fullest and completed every quest, and beat the game in 25 hours. Mind you I walked through combat. With combat not being a factor, BG still has a much smaller world to explore than many other RPGs, yet BG is heraled as the standard of an epic-world to explore. I think that's bunk. Even if I had not cheated on my attributes, I quickly found an exploit that made combat a breeze. In the first inn you come across, you go upstairs and there is a gentleman staying in the inn. Pickpocket him, and if you get lucky he has a cloak that gives you +2 to charisma, and unlimited uses of charm. You can use it on persons and monsters. With the expansion you also find another cloak with the same effect near the end of the game, but that one is called Baldur's Cloak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 "With combat not being a factor, BG still has a much smaller world to explore than many other RPGs, yet BG is heraled as the standard of an epic-world to explore. I think that's bunk." That's because a game like MW, while much larger, is ultimately empty in comparison. There are not too many games the size of the Bg series that actually more meaningful content. Really, just some of the Ultimas do. Arcanum as well does very well in this aspect. And, maybe 1 or 2 other games. And, your charisma cloak idea wouldn't help you win easily since most worthwhile opponents are going to pass the save anyways. Being able to charm masses of kobolds and xvarts proves nothing. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Being able to charm masses of kobolds and xvarts proves nothing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd like to see you charm some kobolds and xvarts, Volo. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Just sell them something shiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Being able to charm masses of kobolds and xvarts proves nothing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd like to see you charm some kobolds and xvarts, Volo. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> His magnetic charm, as shown on these very boards, is enough to blind them to all thoughts of combat. " OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 He'll just confuse them to death with his circular logic. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 ... scene opens with a singular figure being surrounded by swarms of kobolds from all points of the compass, as far as the line of sight. The Wizard Volo begins the somatic components of the Mass Confusion arcade magic spell; Volo: McDonalds is good for you, because I eat it and I am fit and well. QED, The End. Swarms: :wub: OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightblade Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 We've been over this before. I eventually massively cheated in BG1 because I was bored. I explored every map to the fullest and completed every quest, and beat the game in 25 hours. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why would you create He-Man and walk through BG1 in 25 hrs? Sounds pointless. Anyway, the fact that you finished it so quickly just proves that we need more wilderness, and larger areas next time. N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Probably because after the first few hours I found the combat not only easy, but boring and broken with said item. I found the game overall boring and I just wanted to beat it to see what the fuss was all about. It doesn't help that I really don't care for the D&D rules system. Either way, I think Ultima 7 trounces BG1 in terms of a world to explore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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