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I was just reading about a ceremony in star wars episode 3 where Anakin gets named Darth Vader.

 

It got me thinking about how cool it would be, if in kotor 2 , when you turn to dark side and became the rank of Sith Lord then you could change your name from what it was to Darth Somethingorother.

 

And id also like to see lightside characters try to turn you back from the darkside.

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No, its not.

 

In the prequels the Sith are hidding and so adapt a diferent name to make it harder for people to track then, Palpatine and Dooku taken diferent names to throw people offtrack of who the Sith lords were are.

 

Anakin becaming Vader have a strong simbolism behind it but its because Anakin hates who he became and not because of some "sith" pride.

 

Having a "sith" name have no logic since the Sith at that time were acting in open and usually did not to put up a show as Palpatine and Dooku had, in public Palpatine was the Chancellor of the Republic abd in public Dooku was the leader of the Separatist movement that was breaking away because of the Sith infulence on the senate.

 

The Sith route in TSL is likely taking control over the diferent Sith fractions and unite the Sith, no reason of why the main character have to hide his role as unite the Sith under his command.

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Tyranus is Dooku and Dooku is the one behind the separatist movment that is breaking away because of the Sith influence in the senate.

 

What Dooku says to Obi is the same he said to the separatist movement, they are not following Darth Tyranus to rule the galaxy, they are following Dooku because the Republic is being controled by a Sith.

 

Sifodius was not a Sith, he was a menber of the Jedi council that died and Palpatine use his name to order the creation of the Clone Army as ordered by the Jedi, he could not order it as Cancellor or as Sidious because he wants to blame the Jedi down the line (besides other reasons, the senate would remove him from his position if he order the creation of a army) and the reason of why Dooku hired Jango under the Tyranus name is because he wanted the Republic attack the separatists because Tyranus is a Sith.

 

There is a massive deception being done around the creation of the Separatist movment, the Clone Army and the Clone War, a lot of things we see in Ep II will only make sense in Ep III.

 

As for Palpatine ... Palpatine does not care about the Sith and Palpatine power is still under the idea that he saved the galaxy from the folly of the republic and the jedi, Lucas is doing right because Palpatine never shows his force abilities for a good reason, the image Palpatine projects is of a tired old man that controls the Empire for the good of all, not of a Sith that wants to make the Galaxy follow Sith principles ... as a matter of fact nothing says that Palpatines cares about the Sith idiology and simply uses Sith knowledge to his own objectives, he destroy the Jedi but nothing says its because of Sith hate over the Jedi but because the Jedi would be a torn over his domination of the galaxy.

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Actually, in the timeline of Sith History...'Darth' Names (Darth Vader, Darth Maul, etc.) were not used until 2000 years before the Galactic Civil War (which took place during Star wars IV-VI) and were created by the only remaining Sith after the attempted rebirth of a Golden Age of the Sith - Bane, who became Darth Bane. It was at that point in time that he decided the Sith would no longer be a Dark Lord with followers but would be a Master, an Apprentice and no more therefore leading to the secrecy of the Sith and the supposition that they had vanished. Therefore, when the Sith were still as they were with a huge band of followers and a Dark Lord - 'Darth' was not a title given to any Sith lords. This is a mistake in the Original KOTOR and will hopefully be rectified....but as far as the story goes, no I don't belive you should be given a sith name. Also, as far as Darth Gandalf's point - that's the reason they did not change their names, because they would have never been "Darth's" to begin with. In the Trilogic timeline (Both of them) Names are changed for secrecy's sake such as Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader), Senator Palpatine (Darth Sidious), and Khameir Sarin (Darth Maul).

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I think the original poster was trying to say something like:

 

If you named your character Jeff in the beginning of the game, and you became a Sith Lord as a prestige class, Darth would be added to the front. So you'd be Darth Jeff.

 

This is not masking your name, this is simply making you more sith like.

 

All the other Sith Lords had Darth in front of their name. Darth Sion, Darth Nihilus, Darth Traya... Why not you?

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Those are all Sith monikers, not their actual names.

Malak's real name was Alek, "Revan" came from "Revanchism", the movement of which Revan was leader during the Mandalorian Wars. "Traya" most likely comes from "betrayal", for she is the Lord of Betrayal. "Nihilus" may derive from "Nihilism", for he believes that all life must die, something that's born of denial of any purpose of existance.

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Those are all Sith monikers, not their actual names.

Malak's real name was Alek, "Revan" came from "Revanchism", the movement of which Revan was leader during the Mandalorian Wars. "Traya" most likely comes from "betrayal", for she is the Lord of Betrayal. "Nihilus" may derive from "Nihilism", for he believes that all life must die, something that's born of denial of any purpose of existance.

 

Umm, Darth Traya's real name is not Betrayal.... Revan's real name is not revanchism. These are what the writers decided to BASE their names off of.

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Those are all Sith monikers, not their actual names.

Malak's real name was Alek, "Revan" came from "Revanchism", the movement of which Revan was leader during the Mandalorian Wars. "Traya" most likely comes from "betrayal", for she is the Lord of Betrayal. "Nihilus" may derive from "Nihilism", for he believes that all life must die, something that's born of denial of any purpose of existance.

 

Umm, Darth Traya's real name is not Betrayal.... Revan's real name is not revanchism. These are what the writers decided to BASE their names off of.

 

Yes, but then that still means that Revan's "real" name still is not Revan. John Jackson Miller Miller who writes the KotOR comic book has argued that people knowing the character by the name "Revan" does not mean it is his given name. IIRC, he compared it to Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov being known by history as Lenin. He then set up Revan's faction as being called the "Revanchists", because "revanchism" is what they seek in their stand against the Mandalorians. Their leader then becomes "The Revanchist Leader" and since simply "The Revanchist" only to later become plainly "Revan". As explanations go, that's not so bad IMHO, and it does solve the problem of both Revan and Malak being so woefully unoriginal that they simply put Darth in front of their names when they turned to the dark side. Malak's real name was Alek, according to the comic book. We have no idea what Revan's real name was, except that it was thus probably not Revan.

 

And no, Kreia's real name is neither Darth Traya or Betrayal. But neither is it Kreia... :ermm:

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Those are all Sith monikers, not their actual names.

Malak's real name was Alek, "Revan" came from "Revanchism", the movement of which Revan was leader during the Mandalorian Wars. "Traya" most likely comes from "betrayal", for she is the Lord of Betrayal. "Nihilus" may derive from "Nihilism", for he believes that all life must die, something that's born of denial of any purpose of existance.

 

Umm, Darth Traya's real name is not Betrayal.... Revan's real name is not revanchism. These are what the writers decided to BASE their names off of.

 

Yes, but then that still means that Revan's "real" name still is not Revan. John Jackson Miller Miller who writes the KotOR comic book has argued that people knowing the character by the name "Revan" does not mean it is his given name. IIRC, he compared it to Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov being known by history as Lenin. He then set up Revan's faction as being called the "Revanchists", because "revanchism" is what they seek in their stand against the Mandalorians. Their leader then becomes "The Revanchist Leader" and since simply "The Revanchist" only to later become plainly "Revan". As explanations go, that's not so bad IMHO, and it does solve the problem of both Revan and Malak being so woefully unoriginal that they simply put Darth in front of their names when they turned to the dark side. Malak's real name was Alek, according to the comic book. We have no idea what Revan's real name was, except that it was thus probably not Revan.

 

And no, Kreia's real name is neither Darth Traya or Betrayal. But neither is it Kreia... :shifty:

 

In my opinion, thats still not a name, thats a title/ideal. "The Revanchist Leader"... sounds like a title to me. Of course you can't put a name to Revan or Exile that is CANON because each individual is supposed to name their character... but still becoming Sith Lord and adding a Darth to the front of your name would be awesome. (I personally have NEVER taken a DS path in either game though, I feel too guilty :(.)

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