anari_quun Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Just two things: 1. Either get rid of the space combat altogether, or change it so that it follows the same combat system as the rest of the game. For instance, your ship would be your "character" and you'd be able to assign it targets and waypoints. I'm just brainstorming, but there could even be ship upgrades and different weapons. Maybe you'd be able to comunicate with other escort ships, etc. In other words, either eliminate the distraction that the space gunning was in the first KOTOR, or make it worthwhile by making it a strategy and role playing aspect of the game. 2. If there is to be a dueling ring in KOTOR2, I think it would make more sense if each opponent could only use one kind of weapon for a given duel. Like, it would be a blaster duel, or a sword duel, or a grenade duel, etc. to make it truly "dueling". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nartwak Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 2. If there is to be a dueling ring in KOTOR2, I think it would make more sense if each opponent could only use one kind of weapon for a given duel. Like, it would be a blaster duel, or a sword duel, or a grenade duel, etc. to make it truly "dueling". I prefer Thunderdome rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anari_quun Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 Okay, maybe the last match could be an all out weapons fest, but it's a bit unrealistic to call it dueling when one guy's got a blaster and the other guys got a load of grenades, swords, and guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnifex Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Just two things: 1. Either get rid of the space combat altogether, or change it so that it follows the same combat system as the rest of the game. For instance, your ship would be your "character" and you'd be able to assign it targets and waypoints. I'm just brainstorming, but there could even be ship upgrades and different weapons. Maybe you'd be able to comunicate with other escort ships, etc. I hope they will rip out annoying space combat.I dunno why it was in kotor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripleRRR Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I hope they will rip out annoying space combat.I dunno why it was in kotor! Because it is in star wars. <_< TripleRRR Using a gamepad to control an FPS is like trying to fight evil through maple syrup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastaGAW Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Space combat is fun it added variety to the game why do so many people seem to have problems with games that test reflexes in RPGs like this and racing or anything else that doesn't include turns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 anari_quun, You mean, something like the boat in Beyond Good and Evil? "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NInjaPirate Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Well they say that there is an option to let the people who are attacking to board and then you kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 It's nice of them to make that walk-around but that doesn't make a great deal of sense. Skirmish pilots aren't going to board a vessel and a larger ship wouldn't attach to a starship unless it was certain the engines were inoperable. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anari_quun Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Maria- I haven't played Beyond Good and Evil, so I wouldn't know. But I will clarify. mastaGAW- I'm all for adding variety to the game, and space combat is an excellent way to do that. However, the shooting that was in KOTOR was absolutely meaningless: It didn't affect the plot and it was always the same. There wasn't anything remotely tactical about combat. It really just got in the way. And just because someone (namely me) thinks that the gunnery in KOTOR sucked doesn't mean that more direct control action shouldn't be part of the game: it should, and it should be better! The swoop racing was a lot more fun, although it could have been better too. What I really think they should do is use a few separate game engines for the different aspects of the game. Use a racing game engine for swoop racing and an RTS or flight simulator engine for space combat. There are any number of directions to take this, none of which will be incorported, but I can dream, right? You could be in control of the Hawk, commanding it, telling your team which targets to shoot at, while flying missions (this could have been used to get to the Star Forge in KOTOR1 instead of watching a cutscene). You could fly different ships on different missions a la X-Wing or TIE Fighter, sitting in the c***pit. You could do BOTH (which I would LOVE) like in Battlezone (remember Battlezone?) Anything but the way it is now. Make it a feature of the game, not an afterthought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anari_quun Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Good god. I can't even say c0ckpit?? WTF is the world coming to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket? I'd love to see mission flying the Ebon Hawk. Instead, I'll fire up X-Wing Alliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostStraw Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Good god. I can't even say c0ckpit?? WTF is the world coming to It must be a dirty word, the board doesn't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I suggest we ban Anari before he tries to slip more naughty words in with his good ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anari_quun Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Pussywillow Jackass Prickerbush c***fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Assassin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniggy Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Okay, maybe the last match could be an all out weapons fest, but it's a bit unrealistic to call it dueling when one guy's got a blaster and the other guys got a load of grenades, swords, and guns. every contestant should be stripped off everything except his favourite weapon - whatever that may be. a little bit like the box fight in Fallout2 It's very hard to be polite if you're a cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I don't know why they ban such a lovely word as COCKPIT. Its a fun place where Pilots go and do their thing. COCKPIT is not a naughty word but maybe the FCC doesn't like the connotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Stop stroking my c0ckpit! Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I think a different version of ship combat would be nice... Perhaps actually flying the ship and having someone else control the gun turret? Of course, you could swap positions if you like... Or even let the AI handle both and use your battle meditation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonicus Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense. It's pretty obvious that there is no context check. But then again, you could use it like this: Stop being such a c0ckpit. What it really means, I don't know? But it sure sounds funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Okay, maybe the last match could be an all out weapons fest, but it's a bit unrealistic to call it dueling when one guy's got a blaster and the other guys got a load of grenades, swords, and guns. every contestant should be stripped off everything except his favourite weapon - whatever that may be. a little bit like the box fight in Fallout2 Couldn't you sneak in the brass knuckles? Sucked when that guy bit your ear off though.....lost a point of charisma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostStraw Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Okay, maybe the last match could be an all out weapons fest, but it's a bit unrealistic to call it dueling when one guy's got a blaster and the other guys got a load of grenades, swords, and guns. every contestant should be stripped off everything except his favourite weapon - whatever that may be. a little bit like the box fight in Fallout2 Couldn't you sneak in the brass knuckles? Sucked when that guy bit your ear off though.....lost a point of charisma I believe it was a pair of boxing gloves with metal plates in them. Nothing like beating your opponent while maiming him too. Edit: Instead of calling them c***pits, we should just start calling them dickpits to get around the censorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightcleaver Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 ROFL. Anyone experience the terribleness that is the gamespy language filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 How interesting, I was swearing in another thread and there was no editing. A moment please... As i said, very interesting. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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