17 hours ago, Gromnir said:

so, still focusing on the sophistry you complained 'bout? 

Nah.

We both know my search wasn't a misrepresentation, and we both know that the quotes were genuine, and from the start of the articles where the author puts their essential facts- or if you prefer, summary opinions. It's spectacularly easy to prove otherwise if they weren't, since I provided the methodology for it. If you have difficulty with advanced search features ask an AI to do it for you. Personally, I have no doubt you put the quotes into google (or asked an AI to do it for you) and found they were genuine, and from where I stated too.

If you're looking for articles about Reza Pahlavi- essentially biographicals and not general articles- then including him in the search terms is, well, kind of a requirement. That you'd want me to do the most general search possible- iran protests, absolute lol- instead is very much indicative that you don't have a leg to stand on and know it. We both know every article on Venezuela doesn't mention Machado prominently, every article on Afghanistan didn't mention Karzai prominently, every article on Iraq didn't mention Chalabi prominently, every article on Syria didn't mention al-Jolani prominently, etc, etc.

Providing methodology is perfectly acceptable in lieu of providing links, and is essential when trying to show a trend- it is the fundamental difference between anecdote and data. If you're trying to show a trend about a specific person, you include their name. This is very basic stuff. I've also told you you are not a high effort response and that you insults just prove to me you don't have an actual argument but are just throwing a tanty. Funny, given your sheer volume of repetitive verbiage.

1 hour ago, Lexx said:

But ICE aren't cops. 

Good point 

 

 

Man shot and killed by federal officers in Minnesota was an ICU nurse, his parents say

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/24/us/minneapolis-shooting-federal-agents-video.html

https://www.facebook.com/KARE11/photos/breaking-news-this-is-alex-pretti-the-man-shot-and-killed-by-a-federal-agent-in-/1443651944471241/

 

Edited January 24Jan 24 by Gromnir

2 hours ago, Zoraptor said:

We both know my search wasn't a misrepresentation, and we both know that the quotes were genuine, and from the start of the articles where the author puts their essential facts- or if you prefer, summary opinions.

"you're wrong about that."

we never denied that the quotes were genuine. why would we? as we noted, you will find qualitative same quotes from al jazeera. our complaint were that the quotes were lacking meaningful context, were unattributed, unlinked and that you misrepresented the conclusions and findings o' the article, a position which unlike zor, we supported with quotes and links + attributions. we posted more than a half dozen western news stories, proper linked and attributed, which most certain did not "embiggen" pahlavi but instead revealed equivocation and ambivalence regarding pahlavi relevance. 

also, as has been pointed out ad nauseum, the lede does not necessarily include "summary opinions." "or if you prefer" is not somehow transforming your lead into gold and you are again purposeful misrepresenting. lede is a hook + essential facts.  converse, distinct from facts, opinions is part of the analysis o' the writers which you purposeful avoided... is no doubt why you failed to link and attribute so that others wouldn't realize your obfuscations. if a writer summarizes their own article, it is most likely gonna happen in the conclusion.

and funny you should mention machado, 'cause we did an anonymous search for venezuela last friday as we wanted to see just how relevant the idiotic nobel prize story were.  all too often the algorithm feeds us what it thinks we want to see. of course if we had searched for machado + venezuela, every story returned would be 'bout machado. 

duh

even so, more than half the stories returned were 'bout the ridiculous nobel prize nonsense in spite of everything else going on in venezuela.  one such headline, from a source you did not link or attribute but which was the origin o' one o' your supplied quotes,  mentioned the "swag bag" she carried with her after leaving the white house. is the world we live in that trump signature gift bags is news. 

today? not so much. machado is hardly front page at many/most western news sites available to a US reader. 

the thing is, pahlavi never got anywhere near the attention as did machado. even when he held a news conference, and on the day when iran tv were hacked in his name, the first +60 western stories on iran+ protests failed to mention pahlavi in the headlines or ledes more than once. 

2 hours ago, Zoraptor said:

Providing methodology is perfectly acceptable in lieu of providing links

"you are wrong."

grammerly, your source pointed out why your failure to attribute and link were wrong and self defeating. your conclusory statement that, "And on Pahlavi, taking the first ten search engine results for reza pahlavi (exc wikipedia/ brittanica and revapahlavi.org) over the past four days," (you realize that ain't meaningful context, yes?) were the kinda supplied "methodology" (lordy) which magical obviates the need summaries as well as real links and attributions is a laughable response with zero support save zor's says-so.

well, at least you are learning about strawman, how to meaningful summarize news articles, the error o' relying on mindless search engine populations, the existence o' a variety of flavor o' ledes, the fact that the first paragraph of an article is not always a summary, etc. unfortunately, am suspecting you ain't never gonna understand how your mindless list o' quotes generated via a search engine sans meaningful context did not reveal some kinda proof o' the western media's efforts to embiggen pahlavi.

so go ahead, deflect s'more, and then wish into existence new defenses for your initial lazy misrepresentation. is what you do. you do poorly, and am admitting we do derive embarrassing entertainment in revealing your reflexive frauds, but am knowing you cannot help your self.

HA! Good Fun!

 

 

Have to admire the gumption to call the guy a terrorist and say he was approaching the ICE/CBP/Delta Force LARP guys with a gun out.

According to Obersturmbannführer Greg Bovino, fact that the protester was armed meant he intended to kill as many ice officers as he could. 

 

They spew so many lies, it's really incredible. But why should they not... it worked the last time. Nobody is holding them accountable.

An affidavit from a witness. 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-rights-council-adopts-resolution-extending-mandates-fact-finding 

 

As expected the UN Human Rights Council has adopted  a resolution condemning Iran and the killing of thousands of protestors. The  real consequence will be limited as usual but this resolution adds continued  global attention and visibility to the oppressive  nature of the Iranian state and a fact finding investigation will be initiated 

 

Only 7  countries voted against the resolution and they were China, Cuba, Indonesia , Iraq, India, Pakistan  and Vietnam 

In summary the resolution states 

 

" In a resolution (A/HRC/S-39/L.1) on the situation of human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran, especially in the context of the repression of nationwide protests starting on 28 December 2025, as orally revised, adopted by a vote of 25 in favour, 7 against and 14 abstentions, the Council strongly deplores the violent crackdown of peaceful protests resulting in the deaths of thousands of persons, including children, and large numbers of injured individuals, as well as the arrest of thousands in connection with the nationwide protests that started on 28 December 2025; urges the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran to respect, protect and fulfil its human rights obligations and to take all measures necessary to stop and prevent extrajudicial killing, other forms of arbitrary deprivation of life, enforced disappearance, sexual and gender-based violence, arbitrary arrest and detention, incommunicado detention and torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, including against peaceful protesters; decides to extend the mandate of the Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on the Islamic Republic of Iran, for a further period of two years, and requests the Fact-Finding Mission to present a report to the Council at its sixty-fourth and sixty-seventh sessions during an interactive dialogue and to present an oral update, to be followed by an interactive dialogue, on the implementation of the mandate to the General Assembly at its eighty-first and eighty-second sessions; requests the Fact-Finding Mission to conduct an urgent investigation into allegations of recent and ongoing serious human rights violations and abuses and crimes perpetrated in relation to the protests that began on 28 December 2025, including for potential future legal proceedings in line with its mandate, and to present a report on its findings to the Council at its sixty-third session, during an interactive dialogue, and to provide an oral briefing update to the General Assembly, during a joint interactive dialogue with the Special Rapporteur at the eighty-first session of the Assembly; and decides to extend the mandate of the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran, for a further period of one year, to order to continue to monitor the ongoing situation of human rights in the country, including civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights, and to measure progress in the implementation of recommendations, and requests the Special Rapporteur to submit a report to the Council at its sixty-fourth session, during a joint interactive dialogue with the Fact-Finding Mission and to the General Assembly at its eighty-first session." 

I see oil investment and rebuilding Venezuela's collapsed oil infrastructure is going ahead nicely, that revenue is the key to restoring the country and public\private sector partnerships are going to be implemented like it use to be before Chavez started nationalizing\stealing foreign oil assets

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2...nts-oil-law-reform-to-break-with-chavez-model 

" Caracas, Venezuela: Venezuela’s parliament has advanced a proposal to loosen the state’s control over its oil industry and boost the private sector’s role in the first major overhaul of the industry in years.

The proposal to reform Venezuela’s Hydrocarbons Law was thrust upon the country after the abduction of former President Nicolas Maduro by the United States on January 3 and had generated significant interest across businesses and political parties.

Approved in its first reading on Thursday, the reform breaks with several principles of the oil nationalisation carried out by former President Hugo Chavez in 2006, which reserved exclusive crude marketing rights for state-owned oil company PDVSA.

The new text allows direct commercialisation by private companies, permits the opening of bank accounts in any currency and jurisdiction, and, while reaffirming PDVSA’s majority stake in joint ventures, allows minority partners to exercise technical and operational management.

The bill also proposes repealing the law that reserves ancillary services related to primary oil activities for the state, allowing private companies to subcontract oil extraction, provided they assume the associated costs and risks."

 

Also the whole concern about " utter chaos and further instability in Venezuela if Maduro is removed " is not happening. Its primarily because most Venezuelans just want a functional country  and Maduro as a leader  systematically destroyed that reality

https://www.terra.com.br/noticias/mundo/quase-ninguem-mais-fala-de-nicolas-maduro-na-venezuela,c92d4d1f52fe6fcef2b6b519530cd4e1x7j68fio.html

"Almost no one talks about Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela anymore

People go about their lives amid high inflation and hopes for improvement

Almost 20 days after Nicolás Maduro was captured by US special forces in Caracas, Venezuelans hardly talk about the deposed leader anymore. A partially contained economic crisis, which manifests itself in daily increases in food prices, coupled with expectations of improvement through oil exploration, are recurring themes in different social and family contexts.

In various cafes and bakeries, conversations these days tend to revolve around promises of a revival in the oil sector.

"Trump has announced the mass return of foreign companies to the sector," commented a group of office workers gathered around a shared table, referring to the US president, who maintains a kind of guardianship over the Venezuelan government following Maduro's arrest and his appearance before the courts in New York.

Experts estimate that this return could involve giants such as Chevron, ExxonMobil, and other European multinationals, which would inject up to US$ 20 billion in the first two years, according to projections by the Venezuelan Chamber of Petroleum.

The potential impact includes the creation of thousands of direct jobs in the Orinoco Belt fields, an increase in crude oil production from the current 1.2 million barrels per day to more than 2 million by 2027, and the stabilization of the national energy supply.

In a country with a long history of oil-based economics, all of this is easily understood by Venezuelans. Even those who do not work directly in the hydrocarbon industry expect to benefit from crude oil production.

Meanwhile, in homes, Maduro is rarely mentioned, as the high cost of living dominates family conversations. Prices for essential goods, from flour to medicine, are pegged to the dollar or the euro, meaning that daily fluctuations in the local currency market exacerbate inflation.

"Buying a basic food basket for a family of four costs the equivalent of $600 a month, but our income is less than $150 when we add up what I earn and what my husband earns," explains María López (a fictitious name for fear of reprisals), a resident of Petare, one of the most populous neighborhoods in Caracas.

This situation has forced many to reduce the number of meals they eat, take on multiple jobs, or accept temporary work, as informal jobs are known in Venezuela. In 20% of households, remittances sent by Venezuelans who have emigrated also help alleviate the crisis.

Before his capture on January 3, Maduro had warned that his arrest would trigger a "major general strike" and national chaos. None of that happened. Ordinary people, exhausted by years of shortages and repression, seem to have moved on.

"Maduro is history," said a taxi driver stuck in Caracas traffic. Memes and deepfakes are circulating on social media showing the former Venezuelan dictator wearing an orange jumpsuit in an American prison, but checks by specialized websites confirm that these are creations of artificial intelligence.

Meanwhile, in the political sphere, the unicameral National Assembly, headed by Jorge Rodríguez, brother of interim president Delcy Rodríguez, has become the scene of disparate interventions.

On the one hand, the capture of Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, is denounced as a "kidnapping," but without direct attacks on Trump. On the other hand, the same Parliament is preparing to carry out a profound reform of the laws, including the strategic Hydrocarbons Law, following guidelines from Washington.

Initially, starting on January 5, supporters of Chavismo held marches in Caracas, but with low turnout, according to observers, under the slogans "Maduro will return" or "We want them back." This week, however, none of these demonstrations took place. According to independent records, civil servants often participate in these marches under duress. There was one such demonstration in the capital on Wednesday, with few participants.

In practice, life goes on in Venezuela without Maduro. Children and teenagers attend school, the oil industry is preparing for what could be a qualitative leap driven by Trump, and Chavismo has not boycotted cooperation with the United States, although analysts point to the existence of internal friction and disagreements, as demonstrated by the slow release of political prisoners, a central demand in the White House's messages.

For now, the echoes of Maduro and Flores' arrest are fading, although state television insists on highlighting them. What Venezuelans are whispering and debating is uncertainty about the future, as it is not known how long Rodríguez will remain in power as interim president, but there is hope in the face of expectations for economic growth.

trump's immigration efforts are becoming less popular. however,

The New York Times/Siena poll

11% o' all respondents believe ICE tactics have "not gone far enough."

24% o' republican respondents believe ICE tactics have "not gone far enough."

the large % o' republicans who is ok with the current situation, and the significant % who want more o' the ultraviolence is problematic. those extreme republicans vote, and they is overrepresented in primaries where candidates is chosen.

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please recall that in trump 1.0, the administration gave up on their family separation policy because republicans were repelled by the cruelty. only 25% of americans (or less) supported the family separation policy.

today, routine violations o' first amendment and civil rights don't bother most republicans anymore than did cecot, and near a quarter o' republicans is disappointed that immigration enforcement is too cautious and polite.

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we are fundamentally broken, and a mid-term loss for the republicans ain't gonna fix the problems.

 

Edited January 25Jan 25 by Gromnir

The german AFD sees the Minnesota ICE footage and ofc now says that we need something like ICE as well to get rid of our immigrants. And still there are people claiming the AFD aren't right wing fascists. 

Federal agent secured gun from Minn. man before fatal shooting, videos show

 

In Portugal a neonazi organization was recently found to be heavily armed, doing military training, and planning operations to goad Muslims into violence. Over ten members of the organisation were found to also be members of Chega, the Portuguese Conservative party totally not right wing fascist. 

6 minutes ago, Gromnir said:

Federal agent secured gun from Minn. man before fatal shooting, videos show

 

The problem is that all the second amendment bros joined ICE, so they don't care about gun rights anymore. 

21 minutes ago, Lexx said:

The german AFD sees the Minnesota ICE footage and ofc now says that we need something like ICE as well to get rid of our immigrants. And still there are people claiming the AFD aren't right wing fascists. 

 

conservative will choose to collaborate with fascist again

it is all very predictable

Oh for sure, german CDU is already getting more and more friendly with the AFD. That's probably what our next government will be.. CDU + AFD. Ironically, the few states and towns where the AFD was already voted in, are doing really badly economically. Those people are extremely incompetent and it will only get worse in the future. 

Edited January 25Jan 25 by Lexx

Soon there'll be AI videos minutes after an execution to protect whatever narrative they come up with. And of course witness videos will be fake AI generated.

5 hours ago, Pidesco said:

The problem is that all the second amendment bros joined ICE, so they don't care about gun rights anymore. 

am gonna admit to being pleasant surprised that at least a few (admitted too few)  o' the no compromise second amendment advocates has been more reasonable than our more notorious board pundits.

and

HA! Good Fun!

5 hours ago, HoonDing said:

Soon there'll be AI videos minutes after an execution to protect whatever narrative they come up with. And of course witness videos will be fake AI generated.

that is a concern, but am gonna point out that the administration's gaslighting efforts has been so successful, they may not feel any need to rely on ai or make ai claims as a defense.

https://www.facebook.com/RiseUpAndResist/videos/bash-you-said-he-wanted-to-massacre-law-enforcement-what-evidence-do-you-have-th/1532399077827566/

trump supporters watching fox, oan, news max and countless maga sites is seeing video and they is glomping onto the narrative offered by trump, steven miller, kristi noem and greg bovino.

have mentioned previous how reading stories at fox doesn't provide much insight, but reading the reader comments following the stories does.

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Josh2026
4 hours ago

Boils down to two or three questions

Did the person try to stop federal agents?

Did the person approach agents with a loaded 9mm handgun?

Was the person acting in a irrational, violent or uncooperative manner?

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Centercut
3 hours ago

Looking at the videos, 1 and 3 were no. As for #2, it's of no consequence unless it was brandished, which it was not. 2A makes it very clear that people have the right to be armed. 

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davidevan519
4 hours ago

Perceptions.  Politics turns "kind hearted souls" into something else...see the evidence manifested in the crowds of "protestors" who have stepped into a different mental state than most people perceive them as...because since easily triggered emotionally they are used by politicians as "posters", ...

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LCB1924
10 minutes ago

No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems - of which getting elected and re-elected are number one and number two. Whatever is number three is far behind.
Thomas Sowell

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willrobinson141
1 minute ago

Sounds like sedition, to me.

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Ill_in_illinois725
4 hours ago

A political judge demands that evidence not be destroyed. Were they going to destroy evidence? No. But the ruling is a propaganda move for low information folks who  are easily fooled.

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FijiGirl848
3 hours ago

When are the politicians in Minnesota going to be held accountable for picking and choosing the laws they enforce ?

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Thor989
3 hours ago

Well whatever the narrative and regardless where you stand on the  2nd Amendment. packing  a gun  at a law enforcement operation and then getting involved in a scuffle is just taking a chance for no bueno outcome.  Also, regardless whether this was a bad shoot or not the governor and mayor egged th...See more

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MojoJay
2 hours ago

Yup

I KNOW A LOT, A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE, THAT INCLUDES FRIENDS, FAMILY AND WORK COLLEAGUES, THAT HAVE A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT.  

To the best of my knowledge, none, NONE of them carry several extra magazines in their pocket, ever, EVER.    If you are carrying extra magazines, then, you are planning f...See more

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bergy
4 hours ago

Im sure they are devastated as any family would be. But ultimately he should not have been there. He owns that. If I stand in the middle of a highway, I can expect to be hurt. Personal responsibility does not exist and that’s said. 

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tkfl853
3 hours ago

Ok, he was a great guy that took a 9mm and two extra clips of ammo to a “peaceful” protest. Yes, perhaps a nice guy with very poor judgement.  Or perhaps the next mass murderer.  The problem is the police never know which. Bad things can do happen in a scuffle with armed police officers. Personally...

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Marines_Rock
4 hours ago

Going to a highly charged protest with law-enforcement armed. Not the wisest thing to do.

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willied091
3 hours ago

Exactly!! The only question that needs to be investigated is why did he take a 9mm automatic to a so called mostly peaceful protest. The answer is obvious. He found what he was looking for. A provoked confrontation, but I'm thinking it didn't end how he wanted. 

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okpat
3 hours ago

OK, time for Trump to send in the troops and restore order.  This is getting out of hand quickly.  Allow freedom of speech and the right to protest in a designated area away from Ice Agents.  Allowing these agitators to wander around with active ICE operations is dangerous to everyone, and things l...

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Spaghettiwestern247
3 hours ago

These parents would still have their son if Walz & Frey simply cooperated with Federal Law Enforcement ICE detainers at detention facilities, neither of them care & the parents don't get it.

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Morningstarl
4 hours ago

So far, it's impossible to see what's going on inside that scrum. Supposedly it was inside his waistband but what happened beyond that is still unclear. 

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RPdisbelieve
4 hours ago

The truth of the matter is the Minneapolis government, the Minneapolis police are responsible for all of this
If they weren’t not there protecting all of their voting base
If they weren’t under protecting all the illegals
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laidbackokie
4 hours ago

ICE is picking up illegal migrants here in San Angelo, Texas every day. No problems with violence or protests here.  It is a personal choice he made.  He got a participation trophy he wasn't expecting.

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iamsrg64
4 hours ago

I feel for the man’s parents, however, unfortunately an adult put himself in harm’s way. With a handgun and extra ammunition. Encouraged by the local and state officials who are just running a political rally. They are the ones responsible. 

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3 hours ago

They should have taught their son to respect authority. If my child approached LE while they were doing their job I would feel like I didn’t do my job as a parent to obey the rules and law.  It is sad, but he is gone because he took a gamble that he shouldn’t have taken and it costs him his life. B...See more

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USAFCat
4 hours ago

The question is, did he have a 9mm pistol that was loaded and had two full clips when he interfered with law enforcement. Police have a dangerous job and a mistake has consequences. The public and politicians can debate and protest but not interfere. There is time to debate the policy passed by Con...See more

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vahn1
3 hours ago

If a federal agent were to ask for my concealed weapon, I would say yes sir and be alive rather than fight as a wild man until my actions cause bodily harm to myself.

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awakenotwoke272
4 hours ago

Yes this is very sad! However, he should have never been in that position. If he would have minded his business and let Border patrol get an illegal out of the country he would be alive today. No sense in giving your live for a law breaking person. 

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truthdaddy
3 hours ago

Agree. No need to protest and then put yourself in the middle of an arrest if you have a brain. Should have taken the day of and discussed politics with your parents instead of now making them plan your funeral 

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MAR1NEONE889
4 hours ago

If he was a kind hearted soul why didnt he stay home or put in an extra shift helping veterans in the hospital? Turns out he brought a gun , broke the law and paid for jt with his life. He chose his ending.

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Colcannan
2 hours ago

Walz and Frey are breaking federal law and are asking citizens to obstruction ICE operations. State governments are not free to  ignore federal laws 'if they want to'. 

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YouGottaBKidding
4 hours ago

When a Law Enforcement Officer says "STOP" stop and comply.

A Sig with an optic, and a threaded barrel?

Uhh, stop and comply, even if you are not a threat, stop and comply. The LEO'S will get it sorted out and return the firearm at the appropriate time.  Resisting violently does not end well.

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texxascitizen039
3 hours ago

It is a Federal case. State authorities were blocked from the site because their rhetoric made it likely they would try to alter the evidence to fit their Woke rhetoric. The Feds are the ones trying to protect the integrity of the evidence/ site not Walz or Woke Dems.

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commonsense60
3 hours ago

If only “kind-hearted” Pretti had stayed home or gone to work instead of interfering with law enforcement officers who were making a legal arrest, his family might be enjoying his presence right now. He CHOSE to put himself in a dangerous situation and he paid for it. End of story. 

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3 hours ago

The left has it backwards.

Millions of border illegal crossings is not an invasion.

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oldgreenberet635
3 hours ago

The bottom line is he would not be dead if the Democrats in Congress weren't continuing to encourage interference and confrontations with law enforcement, who are simply enforcing the law Congress created. The question becomes: are they deliberately trying to destabilize the country rather than deb...

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It's amazing how a "kindhearted soul who cared deeply for his family and friends and also the American veterans whom he cared for as an ICU nurse at the Minneapolis VA hospital" could be manipulated by his state's leadership who have been inciting violence against federal law enforcement officers i...

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NonPackerfan
4 hours ago

why was he there? why was he carrying? if he was quietly protesting, faded into the background he would not be in the presence of ice agents, he would not be getting sprayed, he would not be in a position to resist, and he would not be dead.

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Dr.VegaEdD
3 hours ago

Other protesters are alive - exercising their right to protest or peacefully demonstrate. It is sacred, and the American way.

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dakdog
3 hours ago

Hard truth? Democrats don't care about who or how many die, as long as it helps them politically. And right now it's their primary campaign talking point. 

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principles.matter
2 hours ago

So many attempts to justify this. It is not a justification to kill a person because he placed himself in the frey.  it is not justification that he didn't have ID.  If he interfered unlawfully, arrest and try him. From the videos I have seen, there were plenty of ICE officers on scene.   

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papaoopa1
2 hours ago

Reckless endangerment is a criminal offense involving conduct that creates a substantial, unjustifiable risk of death or serious physical injury to others. It does not require intent to cause actual harm, only a conscious disregard for human safety.

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Kenkocay
4 hours ago

Kind hearted soul; I don’t think so! Armed with 45 rounds of ammo leads me to believe that he was expecting trouble and got more than he bargained for 

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NonPackerfan
4 hours ago

Or....he went LOOKING for trouble.

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Goodie176876
4 hours ago

Shouldn't have been there. 

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theotherfriedman921
4 hours ago

Two points:

1. “A federal judge soon blocked the Trump administration from "destroying or altering evidence" related to the shooting on Sunday.”

This is nonsense 🤦‍♂️ Altering or destroying evidence is ALREADY against both state and federal law and needs no “judges ruling” /that’s purely political.

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fullmoon1776
4 hours ago

"...while his family remembered him as a "kind-hearted soul." He was, but not after Walz and Frey incited and encouraged violent against ICE. This family needs to remember that and need to sue Walz and Frey.

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findingitfunny603
3 hours ago

Truly kind hearted people don't carry guns with three high capacity mags

us v. them.

HA! Good Fun!

 

26 minutes ago, Gromnir said:

have mentioned previous how reading stories at fox doesn't provide much insight, but reading the reader comments following the stories does.

This!

Some years ago, I watched the occasional Fox news articles and some Fox youtube videos (to avoid the echo chamber thing). I seriously thought at first, that I was watching some surreal satire in the comments sections until I realized those people actually believed what they wrote. Made me despair for the state of the world.

Someone really should have wasted Rittenhouse, I guess.

On 1/25/2026 at 11:37 AM, Gromnir said:

our complaint were that the quotes were lacking meaningful context, were unattributed, unlinked and that you misrepresented the conclusions and findings o' the article, a position which unlike zor, we supported with quotes and links + attributions. 

You were given the context. Saying you weren't doesn't change that. Again, that is how you indicate a trend; it's not by cherry picking results nor by doing a general search for, lol, iran + protests. The trend about Pahlavi's coverage is clear as it's also clear that he's the only Iranian opposition leader that has had any appreciable coverage at all. I cannot say I'm surprised that you don't know how to indicate a trend though, given our previous interactions.

It's not particularly rigorous but it's easily replicable- and to be blunt, you simply aren't worth the effort required for proper rigour nor for quoting of ten fricking articles. Whatever is provided I know you'd just go off on a tangent and end up repeating the same thing over and over in the hope I'll give up; so it's a waste of time.

 

11 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

conservative will choose to collaborate with fascist again

it is all very predictable

It's more of an inevitable than a predictable. Doesn't even really need to be conservative though, at least as a political designation.

To whit: centrist darling Emmanuel Macron and his approach after the 2024 French elections. He pretty clearly would have preferred to work with the far right over the left, if he had to work with one.