Wednesday at 06:41 AM2 days usa politician already support ground invasion of iranusa would sink their own ship if that is all it take to get population on board with the invasion too
Wednesday at 06:57 AM2 days Author 10 minutes ago, uuuhhii said:usa politician already support ground invasion of iranusa would sink their own ship if that is all it take to get population on board with the invasion tooYes, some GOP politicians do think a ground invasion makes sense. But thats normal in the US, politicians have different opinions Thats not going to happen because that would mean the US becomes involved in a protracted war and Trump wants to avoid that, this latest military campaign is already deeply unpopular and he wants a "quick win " using airstrikes And I definitely dont believe the US would sink one of its own carriers to try to justify conventional warBut if Iran does that it would be a different story "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Wednesday at 07:30 AM2 days 32 minutes ago, BruceVC said:And I definitely dont believe the US would sink one of its own carriers to try to justify conventional warIndeed. It's not like this ever happened before. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Wednesday at 07:55 AM2 days I don't think they were planning to do ground invasion, as they didn't move any ground troops on the area during the months they we moving forces there.They maybe forced to do ground invasion in order to keep strait of Hormuz open, but I think they really believed that if they kill the leadership Iran will just surrender same way as Venezuela did.
Wednesday at 08:31 AM2 days Author 27 minutes ago, Elerond said:I don't think they were planning to do ground invasion, as they didn't move any ground troops on the area during the months they we moving forces there.They maybe forced to do ground invasion in order to keep strait of Hormuz open, but I think they really believed that if they kill the leadership Iran will just surrender same way as Venezuela did.You could be right but it wouldn't be a very good assessment of Iran and Israel is typically aware of how these things unfold Irans anti-US sentiment is decades long, the hardliners have created an entire culture and ideology that is deeply influenced by resistance to " US imperialism", And they dislike Israel even more By killing the Iranian leadership it doesnt seem likely they would now end up like Venezuela by immediately starting to reverse Maduros failed policies The ME and its various fundamentalist and extremist groups don't generally operate or think like that. How many times has Israel killed Hamas or Hezbollah top leaders and they still have the same views?So if the US and Israel did believe that it doesn't support the reality and history "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Wednesday at 09:05 AM2 days 31 minutes ago, BruceVC said:You could be right but it wouldn't be a very good assessment of Iran and Israel is typically aware of how these things unfoldIrans anti-US sentiment is decades long, the hardliners have created an entire culture and ideology that is deeply influenced by resistance to " US imperialism", And they dislike Israel even moreBy killing the Iranian leadership it doesnt seem likely they would now end up like Venezuela by immediately starting to reverse Maduros failed policiesThe ME and its various fundamentalist and extremist groups don't generally operate or think like that. How many times has Israel killed Hamas or Hezbollah top leaders and they still have the same views?So if the US and Israel did believe that it doesn't support the reality and historyIsrael has long history of assassinating leadership of Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran, even though it has not worked for them in past they still continue to do it. So their assessment isn't that good.
Wednesday at 09:23 AM2 days Author 14 minutes ago, Elerond said:Israel has long history of assassinating leadership of Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran, even though it has not worked for them in past they still continue to do it. So their assessment isn't that good.Yes, thats my point Israel knows that killing leaders of these groups wont change the ideological views of these groups Thats not why they do itSo I doubt they would now think killing the Iranian leadership is going to suddenly change things in Iran like in Venezuela "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Wednesday at 09:36 AM2 days 3 minutes ago, BruceVC said:Yes, thats my pointIsrael knows that killing leaders of these groups wont change the ideological views of these groupsThats not why they do itSo I doubt they would now think killing the Iranian leadership is going to suddenly change things in Iran like in VenezuelaI just think that Israel is likes to assassinate people so they are willing to lie in order to get support for their action and that let US (Trump, Hegseth and co ) to have attitude that things will go like they went in Venezuela when they decided to participate. As even though they didn't actually change leadership Venezuela, still Venezuela didn't have willingness to fight, which probably led said people to underestimate how conflict with Iran will go. I think they now have realized that what their adviser has said maybe true, but there is little they can do than see conflict to its end
Wednesday at 10:56 AM2 days Blumenthal: "It looks more and more likely there will be boots on the ground and we have no idea what the goals of this war are." This is going to be such a cluster****. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Wednesday at 11:14 AM2 days uk was not informed about the usa strike against iranyet still eagerly assist usa lateras pathetic as expectedlikely everyone follow usa into iraq will eventually follow into invasion of iran too
Wednesday at 11:50 AM2 days Let's gooo. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Wednesday at 12:18 PM2 days 27 minutes ago, Lexx said:Let's gooo.wonder how many trillion mic will make this time
Wednesday at 11:47 PM1 day On 3/4/2026 at 11:43 AM, Gfted1 said:Feels like Iran is holding back. Why wouldnt they just let rip with several hundred missiles and drones towards those two flattops?Not really that easy. Iran doesn't have anything specialist that has the range and numbers, assuming the US isn't stupid enough to park their carriers a hundred or so km from Iran's shoreline at least. No oniks/ zircon, no YJ## except maybe some old silkworms. Some home grown stuff with unconfirmed claims and details is all. Indeed, if you want a reason for Trump's 'vibe' that Iran was planning to attack the US them nearing a deal with China to buy something that could hit carriers (CM-302s) is a decent bet. It would certainly have made them far more vulnerable That leaves drones of various types, and ballistic missiles. Even though ballistic missiles are fast a ship may have moved multiple km in their flight time, if you even have an accurate idea of where they were at launch. Giving them the guidance and manoevrability needed to hit a moving target is also Difficult. Drones are slow and typically don't have much payload.Mostly though, if the US actually does attempt to escort ships through the Straits they'll have plenty of targets, and in a far more vulnerable position.13 hours ago, Elerond said:I just think that Israel is likes to assassinate people so they are willing to lie in order to get support for their action and that let US (Trump, Hegseth and co ) to have attitude that things will go like they went in Venezuela when they decided to participate. Don't think there's any doubt that Netanyahu lied to Trump, extensively. From his pov even if Trump woke up to the fact- unlikely, he's hardly the sort for self reflection- once it's started it's started. Even if Trump wanted to he can't back out now without antagonising everyone.
Yesterday at 03:06 PM1 day Yahoo NewsTrump Officials Now Want Ukraine's Help To Counter Irania...Trump was calling Zelenskyy a "dictator" who "does not have the cards" in the Ukraine war just a year ago.This circus can't get any worse, can it? "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Yesterday at 04:30 PM1 day Don't worry, Kegseth said they can keep going forever The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Yesterday at 08:19 PM1 day Trump fires Homeland Security Secretary Noem after mounting criticismAnother one under the bus. Not a surprise really. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
Yesterday at 08:55 PM1 day Now she has more time to murder her dogs and goats for no reason... Quote Against stupidity we have no defense. Neither protests nor force can touch it. Reasoning is of no use. Facts that contradict personal prejudices can simply be disbelieved - indeed, the fool can counter by criticizing them, and if they are undeniable, they can just be pushed aside as trivial exceptions. So the fool, as distinct from the scoundrel, is completely self-satisfied. In fact, they can easily become dangerous, as it does not take much to make them aggressive. For that reason, greater caution is called for than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.
Yesterday at 09:00 PM1 day 5 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said:Now she has more time to murder her dogs and goats for no reason... Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
15 hours ago15 hr Hopefully the new ICE head candidate is more Constitutionally aligned, although he's a loyalist to the FIFA peace award winner so that seems unlikely. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
9 hours ago9 hr I hope he won't forget to bill the department of war for use of Ukrainian drone specialists. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
4 hours ago4 hr Those Shaheds made with motorcycle parts blew up not only that $1.1 billion early warning radar in Qatar, but THAAD in Jordan and UAE Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by HoonDing The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
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