US Presidential Elections - 2024 edition

[Lexx]

lol @ everyone who voted for Trump because he will bring peace over there. Peace through war, I guess.

[uuuhhii]

there wouldn't be peace but usa will start much less conflict once they collapse like uk did

new president will certainly accelerate that

[BruceVC]

2 hours ago, Lexx said:

lol @ everyone who voted for Trump because he will bring peace over there. Peace through war, I guess.

Im not sure why people believed that because it doesnt reflect the reality of the ME especially since 7 October and Trumps  support of Israel and what Netanyahu considers is necessary to secure Israel from another attack 
 

There is  as inaccurate view that Trump wont commit the US to any wars but there are certain geopolitical events the US has no control over but will get involved because of alliances 

But this particular " deadline commitment " from Trump is silly because what more can you do to release the hostages? Hamas has demonstrated " to the last Palestinian " so I dont see how the US getting involved will change that. You cant  bomb  the rest of Gaza to the ground because then you will kill the remaining hostages?

 

Iran has some influence with Hamas but how much would they have around releasing the hostages?

[Zoraptor]

Panama should petition to join NATO to protect itself from its expansionist near neighbour. So should Denmark and Canada for that matter.

It'd be hilarious, if Trump wasn't soon to be the most powerful man in the world. The Democrats managing to put up candidates that lost to Trump, twice, should be recognised as the monumental achievement it is.

[BruceVC]

2 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

there wouldn't be peace but usa will start much less conflict once they collapse like uk did

new president will certainly accelerate that

At least Russia is no longer involved in Syria and Assad is gone, so there is potential good news for Syria becoming a stable country and then millions of Syrians living in refugee camps can return home 

Thats something to be hopeful about 

[BruceVC]

1 minute ago, Zoraptor said:

Panama should petition to join NATO to protect itself from its expansionist near neighbour. So should Denmark and Canada for that matter.

It'd be hilarious, if Trump wasn't soon to be the most powerful man in the world. The Democrats managing to put up candidates that lost to Trump, twice, should be recognised as the monumental achievement it is.

But Trump is not serious about wanting to annex these places. He is basically trolling, exaggerating  and grandstanding about Greenland and Canada becoming part of the US 

[Malcador]

57 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

But Trump is not serious about wanting to annex these places. He is basically trolling, exaggerating  and grandstanding about Greenland and Canada becoming part of the US 

And you see no problem with the leader of nation doing this? 

One thing, sure does show how some Americans basically are like Russia when it comes to being ok with annexation or mafia like behaviour. 

[BruceVC]

2 minutes ago, Malcador said:

And you see no problem with the leader of nation doing this? 

One thing, sure does show how some Americans basically are like Russia when it comes to being ok with annexation or mafia like behaviour. 

I do have a problem with it and its one of  the main reasons I said I didnt want Trump to become the US president 

He doesn't take the job seriously or he  makes comments like this 

But thats not the same thing as me believing he is going to somehow annex Canada or Greenland 

 

[rjshae]

14 hours ago, Malcador said:

And you see no problem with the leader of nation doing this? 

One thing, sure does show how some Americans basically are like Russia when it comes to being ok with annexation or mafia like behaviour. 

So? In a population of 335 million people, you can pretty much find an example of anything.

[Malcador]

1 hour ago, rjshae said:

So? In a population of 335 million people, you can pretty much find an example of anything.

Yes, hence the "some".

[majestic]

That "some" is what a quarter of that total population voted for. That's some "some".

[BruceVC]

10 minutes ago, majestic said:

That "some" is what a quarter of that total population voted for. That's some "some".

Not really because most people voted for Trump around the main voting issues which the Dems  ostensibly failed on miserably

 

And these issues were the border\illegal migration and inflation. They didnt vote for Trump because of his stupid comments about him wanting to annex Canada or Greenland 

[Bartimaeus]

1 hour ago, majestic said:

That "some" is what a quarter of that total population voted for. That's some "some".

While over a third of the voting population couldn't even be bothered to care enough to vote in the first place. Yes, I'm afraid that we get the representation that we duly deserve.

Edited yesterday at 10:04 AM by Bartimaeus

[Malcador]

6 hours ago, majestic said:

That "some" is what a quarter of that total population voted for. That's some "some".

Could be.  Remarkable amount of people in every country can rationalize their state doing whatever they like, I guess.

[rjshae]

20 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

While over a third of the voting population couldn't even be bothered to care enough to vote in the first place. Yes, I'm afraid that we get the representation that we duly deserve.

In truth, that's a fact. One could argue that we never get the choices we deserve because of our pluralistic voting system. But in essence, DJT is the embodiment of American hubris, albeit in its most inane form. We're getting what we deserve.

[BruceVC]

3 hours ago, rjshae said:

In truth, that's a fact. One could argue that we never get the choices we deserve because of our pluralistic voting system. But in essence, DJT is the embodiment of American hubris, albeit in its most inane form. We're getting what we deserve.

And what do you think the US deserves, can you give 2-3 examples that would be relevant to Trump becoming president?

 

I sometimes hear this but I never hear specific examples of what it means?