BruceVC Posted Wednesday at 09:06 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:06 AM (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gorth said: A bit of mutual back scratching. Musk purchased votes for Trump and Trump gives Musk a role where he can crack down on workers rights to make Tesla more profitable... The BBC had that story too https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cnvjr42yq39t "Donald Trump appoints Elon Musk to 'efficiency' role and Fox News host as defence secretary"... You can't make this stuff up At least Musk, unlike Trump, is a successful businessman regardless of what else can be said about him. Apparently there is lots of inefficiencies in the US Federal system and Musk is going to address that But the word " inefficiencies " is subjective for me living in SA because of our overall subpar public sector delivery Im sure most South Africans would be more than happy with any first world public sector "inefficiencies " around contractors We just want thing to work as expected, I have even heard some South Africans say things in desperation like " we would accept the corruption around tenders awarded and contractors as long as things work" But we end up with the worst of both, corruption and failure to deliver on many public sector services Edited Wednesday at 09:09 AM by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted Wednesday at 09:11 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 09:11 AM 6 minutes ago, BruceVC said: Apparently there is lots of inefficiencies in the US Federal system and Musk is going to address that But the word " inefficiencies " is subjective for me living in SA because of our overall subpar public sector delivery Im sure most South Africans would be more than happy with any first world public sector "inefficacies " around contractors We just want thing to work as expected, I have even heard some South Africans say things in desperation like " we would accept the corruption around tenders awarded and contractors as long as things work" But we end up with the worst of both, corruption and failure to deliver on many public sector services I'm fairly sure the target isn't corruption, but as mentioned in article, get rid of regulations and rules (for business conduct). Say welcome to a new social class, the serfs, in the US Edit: Let's be honest, Musk is not known to care about his employees beyond squeezing every last drop of life force out of them and then discard them. Claiming anything else is being deliberately obtuse 1 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted Wednesday at 09:29 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:29 AM (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gorth said: I'm fairly sure the target isn't corruption, but as mentioned in article, get rid of ulations and rules (for business conduct). Say welcome to a new social class, the serfs, in the US Sure but when I say inefficiencies that can be linked to corruption. SA has a corruption problem that is exacerbated by lack of governance and oversight which is not necessarily corruption in itself So for example every single year most of the municipalities , with the exception of the Western Cape where I live and run by the DA, fails the auditor-generals report ....and the same municipalities fail it year after year. Its not necessarily because of corruption but things like wasteful expenditure or irregular expenditure. And yet its identified but the situation doesnt change So from your link Musk says things like "He claims 99 federal agencies is "more than enough" - there are currently over 400 agencies and sub-agencies. "? How would he really know 100 agencies is enough but this an objective around efficiency And then he says " The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) will "dismantle government bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures, and restructure federal agencies" So he seems to think he can streamline the Federal government and make it more effective. I think his objective is well-meaning but I dont think its based on proper facts or an understanding of the mammoth task in front of him? Edited Wednesday at 09:30 AM by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted Wednesday at 09:38 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 09:38 AM 2 minutes ago, BruceVC said: Sure but when I say inefficiencies that can be linked to corruption. SA has a corruption problem that is exacerbated by lack of governance and oversight which is not necessarily corruption in itself So for example every single year most of the municipalities , with the exception of the Western Cape where I live and run by the DA, fails the auditor-generals report ....and the same municipalities fail it year after year. Its not necessarily because of corruption but things like wasteful expenditure or irregular expenditure. And yet its identified but the situation doesnt change So from your link Musk says things like "He claims 99 federal agencies is "more than enough" - there are currently over 400 agencies and sub-agencies. "? How would he really know 100 agencies is enough but this an objective around efficiency And then he says " The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) will "dismantle government bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures, and restructure federal agencies" So he seems to think he can streamline the Federal government and make it more effective. I think his objective is well-meaning but I dont think its based on proper facts or an understanding of the mammoth task in front of him? Just speculation on my part now, so take with a grain of salt, solely based on Musk's personality... The first things to disappear will be things like The Occupational Health and Safety Act (too much red tape for what businesses are allowed to expose workers to), The environmental impact analysis for construction projects (who needs drinking water anyway when The Coca Cola company sells bottled water), the much hated federal minimum wage etc... (never mind that more than half the states have local minimum wage laws that are higher) because they all impede the growth of share values. 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted Wednesday at 09:39 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:39 AM now billionaire have their pet president again efficiency of funnel more budget to their megacorp would surely increase corruption would be redirected at best multiply out of control at worst again only thing can save people is the vain hope they are too incompetent to do too much damage in 4 year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted Wednesday at 09:52 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:52 AM (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gorth said: Just speculation on my part now, so take with a grain of salt, solely based on Musk's personality... The first things to disappear will be things like The Occupational Health and Safety Act (too much red tape for what businesses are allowed to expose workers to), The environmental impact analysis for construction projects (who needs drinking water anyway when The Coca Cola company sells bottled water), the much hated federal minimum wage etc... (never mind that more than half the states have local minimum wage laws that are higher) because they all impede the growth of share values. Thats all possible for Musk, its obviously a very negative prediction on what he can and will do but I agree its possible I wonder if he will touch something like the Federal minimum wage? Edited Wednesday at 09:52 AM by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugarup Posted Wednesday at 11:30 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:30 AM I kinda feel now how Romans were when Caligula made his horse a senator. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted Wednesday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:35 PM 10 hours ago, BruceVC said: Its complicated and wont apply in all cases but I can believe there would be cases of real discrimination against white people in the US Sort of funny how quickly things move to get the white guys restitution, though. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted Wednesday at 05:26 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:26 PM 48 minutes ago, Malcador said: Sort of funny how quickly things move to get the white guys restitution, though. Its because the allegations of discrimination from DEI are towards white people and from white people as far as I know Also its not really something new, its just something that the GOP is likely to champion but the Dems would ignore? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted Wednesday at 06:47 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:47 PM The next four (lol) years are gonna feel like a century The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted Wednesday at 07:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:39 PM Just for the record Musk is not a particularly successful businessman. He is just, like most multimillionaires, rich enough to be effectively immune to all the stupid crap he has done to his businesses. He is more successful than Trump, but that is such a low bar you'd have to be shorter than the Planck length to limbo under it. 2 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted Wednesday at 08:53 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:53 PM https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/13/politics/matt-gaetz-attorney-general?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_google lol Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Also gorgon Posted Wednesday at 08:55 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:55 PM Matt Gaetz is going to be attorney general. LMAO and you did it to yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted Thursday at 12:22 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:22 AM I see DJT has been carefully assembling his crack(pot) team. Rubio is the only one I can take seriously thus far, but there's a couple I don't recognize so we'll see I guess. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Also gorgon Posted Thursday at 12:24 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:24 AM Elon Musk is going to head the Elon is awesome and gets revenge for covid restrictions department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted Thursday at 01:01 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:01 AM (edited) As soon as Trump won, I committed to not reading the news until at least the midterms, and I've made good on of it so far outside of occasionally peaking in this thread. I just don't think it's going to be healthy for me to even glance at headlines, and the very little that's been posted in here sure is proving that. Coincidentally, I set my current avatar on the day that Biden dropped out, and it's proved very appropriate so far. Please pull the wool over my eyes...or put flowers in front of them...or something, I don't know. Edited Thursday at 01:07 AM by Bartimaeus 1 Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted Thursday at 01:56 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:56 AM 4 hours ago, Malcador said: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/13/politics/matt-gaetz-attorney-general?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_google lol Trump is going to lose the house by appointing all reps lmao. 45 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said: As soon as Trump won, I committed to not reading the news until at least the midterms, and I've made good on of it so far outside of occasionally peaking in this thread. I just don't think it's going to be healthy for me to even glance at headlines, and the very little that's been posted in here sure is proving that. Coincidentally, I set my current avatar on the day that Biden dropped out, and it's proved very appropriate so far. Please pull the wool over my eyes...or put flowers in front of them...or something, I don't know. I mean it's going to be a cluster**** of objective evil and dip**** incompetence. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted Thursday at 03:22 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:22 AM 2 hours ago, Also gorgon said: Elon Musk is going to head the Elon is awesome and gets revenge for covid restrictions department. What I don't get is why he'd take on a job like that. Bureaucracy fixer is about as uninteresting as a job can get. Getting ready for life on Mars? "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted Thursday at 05:15 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:15 AM https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-republican-leader-election-trump/ I see Thune won the Senate leadership race, he was not the MAGA pick because that was Scott A better choice than Scott and interesting how the vote is done in secret "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted Thursday at 11:13 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:13 AM Boebert will be running NASA and that "jewish space lasers" hag Space Force The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted Thursday at 11:18 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:18 AM 4 minutes ago, HoonDing said: Boebert will be running NASA and that "jewish space lasers" hag Space Force they didn't get a flat earther to run nasa that is surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Also gorgon Posted Thursday at 02:48 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:48 PM 11 hours ago, rjshae said: What I don't get is why he'd take on a job like that. Bureaucracy fixer is about as uninteresting as a job can get. Getting ready for life on Mars? I imagine he will just hire people to do the work and take the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted Thursday at 03:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:54 PM I wonder what DJT has in mind for MTG? If I had to guess, I'd say Secretary of *COUGH*racial purity*COUGH* Homeland Security. 1 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted Thursday at 07:05 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:05 PM The Joint Chiefs will like their new boss The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted Thursday at 07:29 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:29 PM conservative will control all 3 branch of usa wonder what disaster they will unleash first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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