Zoraptor Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 (edited) For anyone wondering, Israel has defensively launched about 4 times as many attacks into Lebanon as Hezbollah has into Israel. That's not just according to Al Jazeera, but also the BBC. 23 minutes ago, Malcador said: Maybe they'll carve a piece of Lebanon out after, heh, as per rules based order Israel's already tried to grab a buffer zone in Lebanon multiple times. Got driven out in 2000 with tail well and truly between legs. Would be a lot more difficult now as they could rely on having some support from the SLA then, but they're all dead (as traitors, even their fellow Christians hated them as Quislings, or in Israel) and even the Kataeb/ Phalange fascists Sharon got to do the Sabra and Shatila massacre hate them now. And then there was 2006... Far better to sit back and blow up civilians with impunity while Starmer, Scholtz and Genocide Joe feign concern and wonder why the rest of the world thinks they're gigantic hypocrites. Funniest Hasbara take is that there are Lebanese cheering Israel on. The lasting effect of Israel's intervention in the Lebanese CW is that everyone hates them there when previous they at least had some sympathy from some of the Christians. Some, like the aforementioned Kataeb, just hate Hezbollah too. Edited September 28 by Zoraptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) 7 hours ago, Zoraptor said: For anyone wondering, Israel has defensively launched about 4 times as many attacks into Lebanon as Hezbollah has into Israel. That's not just according to Al Jazeera, but also the BBC. That doesnt change the reality that no country would accept rockets being fired into its territory or that large parts of Israel have been evacuated because of these attacks https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/09/27/displaced-israelis-in-jerusalem-applaud-ongoing-offensive-in-lebanon_6727481_4.html And if Hezbollah was not firing rockers into Israel then Israel would not be involved in this latest military campaign into Lebanon You cant objectively ignore the direct responsibility that Hezbollah has around this escalation Edited September 28 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 didn't lebanon and syria already lost part of their territory once west bank are liquidated lebanon will become the next target regardless colonizing never need much excuse before 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) Bruce will cheer on any annexation. Nasrallah is confirmed to be dead. Hezbollah seems impotent, maybe Israel will try to enact regime change in Lebanon? Edited September 28 by Malcador 2 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Only fair now to blow up nutty yahoo eh The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Well, if we accept the tit for tat logic and say what Isr@hell does is OK, then carpet bombing Telaviv would be fine. After all, the Mossad, IDF and their political leadership are hiding among civilians. A lot of israelis are armed and even have panic rooms (what normal civilian has one of those?) and isn't pretty much every adult a reservist anyway? But the pro-genocide hollowborn only apply that reasoning one way. No morals, no soul, no point arguing with them. They are Waidwen's Legacy at it's finest. 1 Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 hour ago, Malcador said: Bruce will cheer on any annexation. Nasrallah is confirmed to be dead. Hezbollah seems impotent, maybe Israel will try to enact regime change in Lebanon? No I wouldnt support that, I dont support the building of illegal settlements in Palestinian land either But I do support the right of Israel to exist and not have rockets fired into it "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Wonder if they'll go after Iran next. Iranians better get nukes ASAP. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Malcador said: Wonder if they'll go after Iran next. Iranians better get nukes ASAP. Thats one of the reasons Iran has been so muted IMO, they worried if they go to war with Israel there nuclear program facilities will be destroyed But do you really want Iran getting nukes and that type of arms race and escalation in the ME? Edited September 28 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Israel having their mad dog act backfire like that would make me laugh, to be fair. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 https://www.npr.org/2024/09/30/nx-s1-5133463/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-invasion Israel has started a land invasion\limited raids into Lebanon with an understandable objective of getting Hezbollah to stop firing rockets into Israel The interesting part of this land invasion is what are the achievable end goals, the last Israeli invasion into Lebanon in 2006 didnt go as planned for Israel and they underestimated Hezbollah's resistance This time I assume they will push back or kill any Hezbollah military presence in southern Lebanon so its harder to fire missiles But then what? I cant imagine Israel occupying southern Lebanon so will it be a more effective and committed UNSC mission or the Lebanese army that ensures Hezbollah doesnt come back in 10 years? The sustainability of the end goal is the biggest question and unknown part of this Israeli campaign "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarex Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 So what happens now... Will be interesting to see how the US reacts to Iran bombing Israel. "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 usa are pathetically predictable in the past year it is already commit to assist any massacre idf intent to perform only hope left is the next president change course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Hilarious bias in the poster aside, remarkable footage. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 4 hours ago, Sarex said: So what happens now... Will be interesting to see how the US reacts to Iran bombing Israel. I'm sure we'll deescalate by sending Israel another $10B worth of bombs to use on civilians. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 11 minutes ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said: I'm sure we'll deescalate by sending Israel another $10B worth of bombs to use on civilians. Deescalation by escalation ****ing numpties Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 3 hours ago, Malcador said: Hilarious bias in the poster aside, remarkable footage. Oh I thought they intercepted 150% of missiles The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) 37 minutes ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said: I'm sure we'll deescalate by sending Israel another $10B worth of bombs to use on civilians. You mean defend Israel's very existence. Seems that applies to literally anything. Edited October 1 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 If the US didn't send $10bn of bombs to hit civilians Israel would be forced- forced!- to use dumb bombs and nukes(!) instead and kill even more civilians; so it's not only deescalatory it's also in keeping with the highest ideals of humanitarianism! Is an argument I have quite literally seen used. I'd like to think it was ironic... Realistically, what is happening was always going to happen as soon as it became clear the US wasn't willing to do anything at all to rein in Netanyahu beyond the mildest of mild verbal requests, and would instead support them in anything and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Wild watching all those missiles rain down unchecked. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarex Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 7 hours ago, Gfted1 said: Wild watching all those missiles rain down unchecked. Some were shot down. 9 hours ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said: I'm sure we'll deescalate by sending Israel another $10B worth of bombs to use on civilians. I was more thinking if the US will attack Iran. Three years ago I would have said it was far fetched, but now... "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Guess we need Drump now more than ever The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I watched an interesting interview with Bennett, former Israeli PM, and he suggested this attack on Israel is the justifiable opportunity to attack Iran and destroy and its nuclear program It does make some sense on certain levels but its a serious military objective and then the US would have to get involved and Im not sure how much appetite there is for that type of involvement from US under a Biden presidency. If Trump was president US support would be much more likely Because we dont want Iran getting nukes and Bennett's basically saying this is now the time to act against Iran and its nuclear program? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 https://www.axios.com/2024/10/02/iran-israel-missile-attacks-response Going to hit oil facilities. Wonder how Iran will respond to that. 28 minutes ago, BruceVC said: Because we dont want Iran getting nukes Would that really be bad for us? Pakistan has them, and that country is a basketcase. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 8 minutes ago, Malcador said: https://www.axios.com/2024/10/02/iran-israel-missile-attacks-response Going to hit oil facilities. Wonder how Iran will respond to that. Would that really be bad for us? Pakistan has them, and that country is a basketcase. Yes I firmly believe Iran having nukes would make the ME much more unstable under the threat of nuclear war and then the Sunni states would also want them So you would now see a nuclear arms race in the ME amongst several Arab countries Israel has nukes but they dont threaten to use them because they deny having them. Israel has nukes as a doomsday response if they ever nuked. They dont need nukes to fight wars or defend themselves I can guarantee you the moment Iran gets nukes they would threaten to use them like NK or Russia And how would Iran getting nukes resolve the Israeli vs Palestinian conflict? Are we more likely to see a 2 state solution because Iran has nukes? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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