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[Hurlshort]

47 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said:

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Bart, Barty, and Sue are all accepted and well-intentioned nicknames of "Bartimaeus". "Barti" has been specifically reserved for use by my enemies, and you are stepping on their toes by using it...or are you deliberately aligning yourself with them?

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Obviously, it's reasonable to expect everyone to know this - obviously, .

 

 

Hah, I apologize. Honestly I don't know why anyone expect me to remember anything anymore. I was more than willing to apologize to KP for thinking he didn't like It's Always Sunny too. My mind is going. Names are the worst, too. 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Hurlsnot

[Bartimaeus]

31 minutes ago, Gromnir said:

have difficulty mentally shortening to bart. is bar-timeaus as 'posed to bart-imeaus, yes? am guessing there is curious australian slang for blind, no? might be an option.

HA! Good Fun!

That's correct, but when you have a username as unwieldy as it is (four syllables!), you take any decent nicknames you can get while politely asking people to stop using the bad ones, . On a side-note, I took it not from the Bible, but from the titular demon/spirit in a children's book that I read...you guessed it, when I was a kid.

@Hurlshot Haha, it's fine, .

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Just don't ever do it again, or you're dead to me, .

Whatever image you tried to link did not work - whoever visits it will be sent to some other random image instead.

(e): Looks like you fixed it.

Edited January 9, 2022 by Bartimaeus

[Chairchucker]

Past Chairchucker was alternately a rude jerk and fine, actually. Some of my old posts make me want to delete everything before 2010, some of my old posts make me think 'nope, past me was great'.

 

In more MOVIE related news, The Eternals comes to Disney+ this week. It got mixed enough reviews to make me not bother with the cinema experience, but I'm sure gonna watch it since I'm already paying for the subscription.

[Lexx]

16 hours ago, KP on top of ZA WARUDO said:

Pig (2021). I was not expecting this, it's like the anti-John Wick and that works wonderfully. Seeing Nicholas Cage in a more subdued role was really nice. Though I would not want to eat anything Robin made unless he took a shower.

The Dead Don't Die (2019). I wanted to see this years ago but the local theaters only had it for a weekend while some Marvel movie took up half the screens. It's very different and I think it is very good. Watching it now is sort of timely to compare with Don't Look Up, because it works much better as a satire of climate change inaction with a fraction of the effort. Maybe that's just because it is a better movie.

Shakma (1990). A b-movie from the 90's that is like an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia but with a crazed baboon. It's hilarious.

I totally forgot about Pig. Watched it yesterday finally and now I understand what people mean with "anti-John Wick" .. Was never able to imagine what the hell that is supposed to mean. Now I'm happy that I avoided all and every spoilers about this movie.

[Amentep]

Playing catchup on a bunch of movies I watched:

PRISONERS OF THE GHOSTLAND (2021) - style over substance.  Some visually arresting images, but with a complete jumble sale of a story.  It reminds me of a number of cult films (a little El Topo, a little Gozu) but with no depth.

JUNGLE CRUISE (2021) - a great Pirates of the Caribbean sequel.  Johnson and Blunt are a great team.

LADY SNOWBLOOD (1973) - Meiko Kaji plays another character out for revenge (not dissimilar to her earlier Scorpion character).  Set in the Meiji period of westernerzation of Japan (~1880) its a time period we haven't seen a lot which makes it look visually cool for a sword fighting film.  If you like a tale of a character bent to avenge a past wrong regardless of what else happens, this a good one.

LADY SNOWBLOOD: LOVE SONG OF VENGENCE (1974) - Kaji returns as the titular character, roped into a political plot between a corrupt government official and anarchists.  Murky from a plot point, there's no sympathy for any of the characters other Kaji's.  Not as good as the original.

CRYING BLUE SKY (1983 - technically though, this version was never released until now) - Avery Crounse's folk horror film, Eyes of Fire (1983) has a cult following.  It was only released in theaters in a small way and then on VHS.  A new blu-ray restoration has made this original film look as good as it ever has (and in wide-screen).  But an eagerly awaited extra on the disc is the original, longer cut of the film Crying Blue Sky.  While essentially the same film, the original edit has a different opening and ending and dispenses with the editing that made a lot of things feel dreamlike and instead give a more direct narrative behind the images.  It may be the definitive version of the story and, if nothing else, it illuminates elements of the story that until now had never been fully explained due to the editing on the released version.

[Chairchucker]

34 minutes ago, Amentep said:

JUNGLE CRUISE (2021) - a great Pirates of the Caribbean sequel.  Johnson and Blunt are a great team.

Yeah I'm not sure Emily Blunt's capable of making a bad movie TBH.

 

No one should feel any obligation to prove me wrong.

[Amentep]

I can't think of, off the top of my head, a bad movie she's in.  But I've not seen every movie she's in, either.

[Malcador]

https://screenrant.com/raid-remake-michael-bay-gareth-evans-location-details/

This will be great.

 

[Lexx]

Why do they need to make a remake of that

[Chairchucker]

No movie ever has 'needed' to be made, and there are whole categories of movies for which the purpose is 'make money'.

[Lexx]

Well, that was more a rhetoric question.

I always find it funny when americans have to americanize movies for their market.

[Amentep]

47 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Well, that was more a rhetoric question.

I always find it funny when americans have to americanize movies for their market.

Probably has more to do with the volume of things produced and consumed than anything else.  The other voracious market for film is India, and they have loads of remakes, including Kaante/Reservoir Dogs, God Tussi Great Ho/Bruce Almighty, Sakar/The Godfather, Players/The Italian Job, Papi Gudia/Child's Play, Akele Hum Akele Tum/Kramer vs Kramer, The Proposal/The Proposal, Mahakaal/A Nightmare on Elm Street, Bang Bang/Knight and Day, Kabzaa/On the Waterfront, Ek Ajnabee/Man on Fire, Sauda/Indecent Proposal, Ghajini/Memento, Satte Pe Satta/Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.

But most movie making countries have dabbled in remakes (either direct or veiled), including things like:

• China & Hong Kong (A Simple Noodle Story/Blood Simple, Connected/Celular, What Women Want/What Women Want, The Proposal/The Proposal)
• Japan (Saidoweizu/Sideways, Yurusarezaru Mono/Unforgiven, Ghost: Mouichido Dakishimetai/Ghost)
• Italy (Stork Day/Groundhog Day)
• France (The Next/Assault on Precinct 13, The Beat that My Heart Skipped/Fingers)
• Russia (12/12 Angry Men, The Thirteen/The Lost Patrol, )
• UK (Mean Machine/The Longest Yard, Silent Night, Bloody Night: The Homecoming/Silent Night, Bloody Night, The Curse of Frankenstein/Frankenstein (Universal), The Mummy/The Mummy's Tomb & The Mummy's Ghost (Universal))
• Nigeria (Masoyiyata Titanic/Titanic)*
• Turkey (The Man Who Saved the World/Star Wars)*

*IIRC both of these incorporate bootleg footage from other films with new footage shot for their VHS and film releases respectively.

[Lexx]

Jeez, did you research all that right now or do you just copy&paste

[Malcador]

6 hours ago, Lexx said:

Why do they need to make a remake of that

Americans just hate reading subtitles, I guess.

[Gromnir]

6 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Jeez, did you research all that right now or do you just copy&paste

am suspecting is not the first time amentep has heard somebody reflexive rail 'gainst the americanization o' films.  

HA! Good Fun!

[majestic]

44 minutes ago, Amentep said:

Probably has more to do with the volume of things produced and consumed than anything else.  The other voracious market for film is India, and they have loads of remakes, including Kaante/Reservoir Dogs, God Tussi Great Ho/Bruce Almighty, Sakar/The Godfather, Players/The Italian Job, Papi Gudia/Child's Play, Akele Hum Akele Tum/Kramer vs Kramer, The Proposal/The Proposal, Mahakaal/A Nightmare on Elm Street, Bang Bang/Knight and Day, Kabzaa/On the Waterfront, Ek Ajnabee/Man on Fire, Sauda/Indecent Proposal, Ghajini/Memento, Satte Pe Satta/Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.

But most movie making countries have dabbled in remakes (either direct or veiled), including things like:

• China & Hong Kong (A Simple Noodle Story/Blood Simple, Connected/Celular, What Women Want/What Women Want, The Proposal/The Proposal)
• Japan (Saidoweizu/Sideways, Yurusarezaru Mono/Unforgiven, Ghost: Mouichido Dakishimetai/Ghost)
• Italy (Stork Day/Groundhog Day)
• France (The Next/Assault on Precinct 13, The Beat that My Heart Skipped/Fingers)
• Russia (12/12 Angry Men, The Thirteen/The Lost Patrol, )
• UK (Mean Machine/The Longest Yard, Silent Night, Bloody Night: The Homecoming/Silent Night, Bloody Night, The Curse of Frankenstein/Frankenstein (Universal), The Mummy/The Mummy's Tomb & The Mummy's Ghost (Universal))
• Nigeria (Masoyiyata Titanic/Titanic)*
• Turkey (The Man Who Saved the World/Star Wars)*

*IIRC both of these incorporate bootleg footage from other films with new footage shot for their VHS and film releases respectively.

You forgot Turkish Star Wars.

[Malcador]

Turkish Rambo was better than Rambo 3.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

12 minutes ago, majestic said:

You forgot Turkish Star Wars.

 

58 minutes ago, Amentep said:

Turkey (The Man Who Saved the World/Star Wars)*

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[majestic]

14 minutes ago, KP on top of ZA WARUDO said:

 

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Yeah, now I'm confused too. I could swear that wasn't there before. Maybe I just read over it. Haven't slept much recently.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

2 minutes ago, majestic said:

Yeah, now I'm confused too. I could swear that wasn't there before. Maybe I just read over it. Haven't slept much recently.

I remember seeing it before you posted it. Maybe it's lack of sleep. Or more likely, Amentep is gaslighting you for not watching Space Cobra.

[Amentep]

1 hour ago, Lexx said:

Jeez, did you research all that right now or do you just copy&paste

I knew some of them off the top of my head, but I knew there was more so I did a little research as well. Could have probably found more if I'd spent more time on it.   India has a reputation - like the US for doing remakes.  While I think some of the rationales are true (avoiding subtitles, for example, in the US or for example localizing language, locations and cultural elements for India), its also a way to take a solid story and put some familiar box-office faces in it and do well in the local cinema.

[Lexx]

1 hour ago, Malcador said:

Turkish Rambo was better than Rambo 3.

Turkish Rambo is better then every Rambo movie after that. Especially Rambo 5 triggered the hell out of me.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

21 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Turkish Rambo is better then every Rambo movie after that. Especially Rambo 5 triggered the hell out of me.

Was that one Rambo: Brown People Bad?

[Malcador]

26 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Turkish Rambo is better then every Rambo movie after that. Especially Rambo 5 triggered the hell out of me.

Come now, if you saw 5 after 3 and 4, you've only yourself to blame.  The 4th one was pretty funny in the violence being so pornographic - watch the bad guys throw people into burning buildings, make them run across a minefield, slaughter them with heavy machineguns, etc.

Edited January 11, 2022 by Malcador

[Gromnir]

kinda enjoyed rambo. keep in mind we were kinda young when the first rambo movie were released, but particular noteworthy am thinking brian dennehy took an admitted by-the-numbers bad lawman villain role and made it memorable. by the early 80s a substantial portion o' americans had changed their pov regarding vietnam and there were considerable sympathy for veterans o' that conflict, so rambo were playing to sympathetic audiences. as such were good timing for the release and overall rambo was an entertaining film with at least some kinda message you could embrace to make you feel better while you enjoyed a bit o' the ultra-violent. 

second rambo were our last rambo. writers/directors changed the course o' the franchise and we saw no reason to continue to follow the road they had chosen for the rambo. is not as if stallone and the makers o' rambo owed us anything, but we liked the character from the first movie, so we felt a bit cheated by rambo ii. couldn't forgive those involved for, from our pov, ruining something we had appreciated.

HA! Good Fun!