Theonlygarby Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Which gets released first you think? I feel like outer worlds 2 probably gets released first. That being said I'm wrong like all the time so probably avowed. I'm bored Edited June 29, 2021 by Theonlygarby just added a word for grammars sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo! Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Well we don't know the scope of TOWII but this one is in development since less than two years according to Linkedin's profiles while Avowed is in development since late 2018. So I think Avowed will release before TOWII. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethics Gradient Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Ordo! said: Well we don't know the scope of TOWII but this one is in development since less than two years according to Linkedin's profiles while Avowed is in development since late 2018. So I think Avowed will release before TOWII. Yeah, that seems reasonable. By project codenames, Avowed is three projects older than TOW2. We really don't know much about the two in the middle, so it's hard to gauge if it's a big head start or a little head start, but TOW2 is the most recent project they've announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo! Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 There is also the question of the scope of the projects : -According to the leaks Avowed is an open-world so it's a pretty big game. -For TOWII Cain and Boyarski said in interviews that they don't wanted TOWII to be an open-world, so maybe it's a smaller game. However we now know that the Game Director of TOWII is Brandon Adler so i don't know if the interviews of Cain and Boyarski are still relevant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Preproduction work for Avowed began almost immediately after Deadfire in 2017, two years before The Outer Worlds released. So it's farther along. I suspect that they won't go take the budget approach to TOW2 like they did in 1 (I think there's a good chance they try to implement NPC AI and scheduling and some other more difficult stuff to make the world feel more alive). I wouldn't be surprised if Avowed has a sneaky 2022 release, though I'm thinking 2023 is almost a lock. I doubt TOW2 is closer than 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo! Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 hours ago, the_dog_days said: Preproduction work for Avowed began almost immediately after Deadfire in 2017, two years before The Outer Worlds released. So it's farther along. I suspect that they won't go take the budget approach to TOW2 like they did in 1 (I think there's a good chance they try to implement NPC AI and scheduling and some other more difficult stuff to make the world feel more alive). I wouldn't be surprised if Avowed has a sneaky 2022 release, though I'm thinking 2023 is almost a lock. I doubt TOW2 is closer than 2024. Are you sure that the preprod of Avowed started before the acquisition by Xbox ? I think they said that Avowed was possible thanks to this acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) On 6/30/2021 at 12:02 AM, Ordo! said: -For TOWII Cain and Boyarski said in interviews that they don't wanted TOWII to be an open-world, so maybe it's a smaller game. Open-world or no open-world has little to do with ambition. We know quite nothing about tOW2, but considering how well it did, I would be surprised if they invested less in this project then a PoE spin-off. Even so, smaller team doesn’t mean shorter development time. Edit. Either way, they had nothing to show for Avowed year ago, and they have nothing to show for TOW2 now - so I assume Avowed is ahead Edited July 1, 2021 by Wormerine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo! Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Wormerine said: Open-world or no open-world has little to do with ambition. We know quite nothing about tOW2, but considering how well it did, I would be surprised if they invested less in this project then a PoE spin-off. Even so, smaller team doesn’t mean shorter development time. Edit. Either way, they had nothing to show for Avowed year ago, and they have nothing to show for TOW2 now - so I assume Avowed is ahead Yes you are right. Anyway, right now Obsidian has four projects in dev (Grounded, Avowed, TOWII and Josh Sawyer's Project) and we know literally nothing about three of them. So I think (hope) that we will learn some infos about one of them this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethics Gradient Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Ordo! said: Yes you are right. Anyway, right now Obsidian has four projects in dev (Grounded, Avowed, TOWII and Josh Sawyer's Project) and we know literally nothing about three of them. So I think (hope) that we will learn some infos about one of them this year. Obsidian seems to be keeping up with the state naming convention. There may even be more than four things in various stages of production. 18. Louisiana - Pillars of Eternity 2 19. Indiana - The Outer Worlds ------------------------- 20. Mississippi - [???] 21. Illinois - [???] 22. Alabama - Avowed 23. Maine - Grounded 24. Missouri - [Josh Sawyer's unannounced project] 25. Arkansas - The Outer Worlds 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanisatha Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethics Gradient said: Obsidian seems to be keeping up with the state naming convention. There may even be more than four things in various stages of production. 18. Louisiana - Pillars of Eternity 2 19. Indiana - The Outer Worlds ------------------------- 20. Mississippi - [???] 21. Illinois - [???] 22. Alabama - Avowed 23. Maine - Grounded 24. Missouri - [Josh Sawyer's unannounced project] 25. Arkansas - The Outer Worlds 2 Our lists match up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethics Gradient Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, kanisatha said: Our lists match up! Is it too soon to speculate about Michigan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanisatha Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, Ethics Gradient said: Is it too soon to speculate about Michigan? My list includes Florida, Texas, Iowa, and Wisconsin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 2:00 AM, Ordo! said: Are you sure that the preprod of Avowed started before the acquisition by Xbox ? I think they said that Avowed was possible thanks to this acquisition. From what we know Microsoft and Obsidian were talking for close to a year, which would put them just months after Deadfire's release and avowed was a part of their pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIP-Clownboy Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) The Outer Worlds 2 has been in development since 2019. If you remember, OW was content locked for a good year before release. Considering the reception the announce trailer received it makes sense MS would want their new IP to be a properly marketed/budgeted follow up. Avowed seems a bit too ambitious for a studio working on 4 different games. It's going to need more time in the oven than OW2. Edited December 4, 2021 by PIP-Clownboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 12/4/2021 at 1:50 PM, PIP-Clownboy said: Avowed seems a bit too ambitious for a studio working on 4 different games. In what way? All we know 100% is that t's a first-person RPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Wormerine said: In what way? All we know 100% is that t's a first-person RPG. Nevermind that two of those projects are roughly 15-person teams working on passion projects rather than AAA titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbaNebula Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Based purely on the order in which they were announced, I would say Avowed is likely further into development. If reports from two months ago are to be believed, Avowed is likely currently in an alpha state. We also know that both Avowed and The Outer Worlds 2 (and Josh's game) are currently "playable" based on one of Josh's tweets, but playable in no way means anything near completion. TOW2 and Josh's game could simply be vertical slices, and that's a very early stage in development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 outer worlds 2 most likely outer worlds was very well managed especially for rpg outer worlds 2 probably have the same stable plan and release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I bet they both get released on the same day as Bethesda's Starfield. How much do I win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Hurlsnot said: I bet they both get released on the same day as Bethesda's Starfield. How much do I win? You'd probably get great odds in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theonlygarby Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 Weird, this topic sprouted up. I still think outer worlds 2. If avowed is going to be "bigger than skyrim"(pretty sure they said that at some point) and presuming it's not as hollow as skyrim, and they are starting from scratch, it's going to take a long time. Outerworlds can be completely unique, it doesn't have much lore it can break, if any really. It has stuff it can pull from, but not to the level of eora. Seems like it would be easier to write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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