Torm51 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Why doesn't Greater Lay on Hands healing scale with PL like regular LoH? Because of the inspiration it gives? Just curious to see if this is a bug or intended. Have gun will travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelee Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Why doesn't Greater Lay on Hands healing scale with PL like regular LoH? Because of the inspiration it gives? Just curious to see if this is a bug or intended. it doesn't?? honestly have never paid attention to the scaling before, just assumed it did. the robust inspiration should scale for sure, but i also assumed the healing did, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giftmefood Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Why doesn't Greater Lay on Hands healing scale with PL like regular LoH? Because of the inspiration it gives? Just curious to see if this is a bug or intended. pro tip: it's more efficient to just use lay on hands over greater lay on hands. Even with robust, 2 casts of 1 zeal loh gives more healing than 1 cast of 2 zeal gloh. SOLO POTD Build - "Gypsy Thunder" https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/102537-solo-potd-build-gypsy-thunder-ranged-brawler/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Never had the feeling it doesn't scale. That would make for ridiculous healing at higher levels and I think I should have noticed... hopefully... Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxQuest Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) I've just checked this in game, and Greater Lay on Hands' healing and duration does scale with PL for me: Both 20hp/3s and inspiration's 10hp/3s. But (!) keep in mind that it is a rank 3 ability. So it gets a lesser benefit than regular LoH. For example my lvl 17 herald Pallegina is getting +15% from PL for Greater LoH, because: (6 class_pl - 3 ability rank) * 5% But if it was unupgraded LoH, it would be +25%, because: (6 class_pl - 1 ability rank) * 5% So my assumption is: you took Greater LoH when you had 3 class_pl (i.e. sc lvl 5-6 or mc lvl 7-9), and thus have seen no PL bonus right of the bat. Edited March 19, 2019 by MaxQuest PoE1 useful stuff: attack speed calculator, unofficial patch mod, attack speed mechanics, dot mechanics, modals exclusivity rules PoE2 useful stuff: community patch, attack speed mechanics, enemy AR and defenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torm51 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) I've just checked this in game, and Greater Lay on Hands' healing and duration does scale with PL for me: Both 20hp/3s and inspiration's 10hp/3s. But (!) keep in mind that it is a rank 3 ability. So it gets a lesser benefit than regular LoH. For example my lvl 17 herald Pallegina is getting +15% from PL for Greater LoH, because: (6 class_pl - 3 ability rank) * 5% But if it was unupgraded LoH, it would be +25%, because: (6 class_pl - 1 ability rank) * 5% So my assumption is: you took Greater LoH when you had 3 class_pl (i.e. sc lvl 5-6 or mc lvl 7-9), and thus have seen no PL bonus right of the bat. I’m a level 8 crusader so that’s it! Thought it was a bug with turn based or something Although it’s still more healing due to robust, but less efficient. Good for Con afflictions that reduce healing etc Edited March 19, 2019 by Torm51 Have gun will travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelee Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Why doesn't Greater Lay on Hands healing scale with PL like regular LoH? Because of the inspiration it gives? Just curious to see if this is a bug or intended. pro tip: it's more efficient to just use lay on hands over greater lay on hands. Even with robust, 2 casts of 1 zeal loh gives more healing than 1 cast of 2 zeal gloh. lay on hands healing doesn't stack with itself, so if you need to heal a lot very quickly, then greater lay on hands can save your bacon in a way that 2x lay on hands cannot (especially since robust gives +2 AR and can potentially give you huge damage reduction boost). I’m a level 8 crusader so that’s it! Thought it was a bug with turn based or something Although it’s still more healing due to robust, but less efficient. Good for Con afflictions that reduce healing etc yeah, my primary use case for greater lay on hands is: on someone who is weakened/enfeebled, or someone who needs emergency help stat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giftmefood Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Why doesn't Greater Lay on Hands healing scale with PL like regular LoH? Because of the inspiration it gives? Just curious to see if this is a bug or intended. pro tip: it's more efficient to just use lay on hands over greater lay on hands. Even with robust, 2 casts of 1 zeal loh gives more healing than 1 cast of 2 zeal gloh. lay on hands healing doesn't stack with itself, so if you need to heal a lot very quickly, then greater lay on hands can save your bacon in a way that 2x lay on hands cannot (especially since robust gives +2 AR and can potentially give you huge damage reduction boost). I’m a level 8 crusader so that’s it! Thought it was a bug with turn based or something Although it’s still more healing due to robust, but less efficient. Good for Con afflictions that reduce healing etc yeah, my primary use case for greater lay on hands is: on someone who is weakened/enfeebled, or someone who needs emergency help stat. you are correct, if you need on demand healing for a squishy target then gloh is better. but i have a tanky duo character so I only need loh on him even with megabosses. SOLO POTD Build - "Gypsy Thunder" https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/102537-solo-potd-build-gypsy-thunder-ranged-brawler/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asnjas Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Lay on hands is both holy virtuous and viceful perverted at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringingyouthefuture Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Lay on hands is both holy virtuous and viceful perverted at the same time. I'm seeing a theme here .... 1 “How do you 'accidentally' kill a nobleman in his own mansion?" "With a knife in the chest. Or, rather, a pair of knives in the chest...” The Final Empire, Mistborn Trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asnjas Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 You never know what you gonna get when a pally lays on hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Lay on hands is both holy virtuous and viceful perverted at the same time. Lol true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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