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You have to pass through constantinople to get from one to the other.

I love how despite the fact you're supposedly ignoring me, you still think it worth your while to make baseless accusations against me. If you're going to ignore me, why don't you just stop talking about me? Then we never have to say anything to or about each other ever again. http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources...ine_archive.htm I can't find where in the strategy articles it was mentioned, but I'm sure it's said there too. --- Of course I was obstinate to that! You may not realise this, but I actually have a life, and I quite liked having six days of the week where I didn't have to be at the computer at 1pm. I suggested that a third game be set up instead, because I didn't want the extra work this entails. One was set up. I had hoped then, that people might agree to keep the turn length the same. And if you'll remember, the very next turn after that, if I recall, was to the new schedule.

I think that when computer technology gets to the point where telling the real from the virtual is impossible, I will never ever touch a computer again out of paranoia. I'll just go live in a real world log cabin with no real world connections to the virtual trap. I'll be happy to have all your real owrld things if you don't need them in your virtual world. One thought I'd add to this idea is that perhaps instead of having virtual money at all, people might just use real money. Lots of people would still have to work in the real world, so they'd have to be payed in real world currency. But if people spend the rest of their lives when they aren't at work in a virtual game, might people not just buy their swords and starships with their paychecks instead of Gold Pieces? That way, you wouldn't really have to worry about people being bankers in the virtual world, as they could manage the currency used in both worlds for a living in the real one. I believe there's an MMORPG called Puzzle Pirates what does this. You can pay to play in a world with virtual money, or you can play for free in a world where everything must be bought with real cash.

Season 1 of the American BB was much the same with the public voting who to evict. The problem with that was it got really boring. I did enjoy it and watched the season, but what kept me coming back from season 2 on was watching the strategizing (or lack of) and trying to guess what move the HOH might make and thinking of what would be the best move for them to make. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Must be that british reserve that kept it in place here, then. We'd much rather watch polite people sit around and have tea and cakes than a bunch of scheming bitchy people.

Harry and the Potters - Wizard Chess I don't want to go home for christmas, this year, I don't want to see my, family. I just want to stay at school for this, Winter's Break, I just want to stay at school with my best friend Ron. Oh, oh, oh oh oh, We'll spend our christmas playing wizard chess, Oh, oh, oh oh oh, We'll play wizard chess this christmas. Ron's mom sent him, a nice package of presents, She sent me, a nice big sweater, I got a mysterious, gift from my dead dad, It was an invisibili-tee cloak, how rad. Oh, oh, oh oh oh, We'll spend our christmas being invisble, Oh, oh, oh oh oh, We'll be invisible this christmas. Oh, oh, oh oh oh, We'll spend our christmas playing wizard chess, Oh, oh, oh oh oh, We'll play wizard chess this christmas. Oh yeeeeah. When I first heard this song, I literally fell of my chair and rolled on the floor laughing. No, seriously, I actually fell of my chair.

Not having a TV is wonderful. I missed the whole of this year's Big Brother. Two years ago, once the UK version of Big Brother 4 had finished, Channel 4 started showing the US version instead, eventually coming down to 'Jun' vs. 'Alison', who had managed to make themselves so utterly hated by the other participants that they could barely manage to stay in the same room. What amused me was how much people's behaviour is determined, not by their personalities, but by the rules of the game. The US version featured open scheming, alliances, and the contestants all negotiated their votes directly. In the UK, the contestants aren't allowed to discuss nominations, and the eviction vote is always a public telephone poll, so contestants can't afford to behave too nastily for fear of losing public favour. It's so easy to get sucked into watching this show, but in terms of really watching and following what's going on, once or twice was probably enough for me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think I like the British format better. Lets you get rid of the annoying arseholes. I don't think any series will ever match the brilliance of the first one, though. Actually having a cheater in who couldn't be caught was great. The best part of that was that only the public knew what was going on, and we couldn't evict him because everyone in the house thought he was so nice. Nasty Nick was awesome. The only other series that ever came close was the celebrity one, and that only because Jack Dee managed to escape from the house (by building a tunnel if I recall) and evade the security before being captured and brought back.

Well, Mothman, this song might be right up your alley: Bob Ricci - Depressing Rock Song Listen to it here. I grew up in a little suburbia I graduated at the top of my class My parents loved me, my friends they all envied The kind of life that they all knew that I had I got accepted to an Ivy League college My Mom and Dad paid every step of the way I

Hmm...no quote. Strange that. Maybe I didn't say that after all. On the bright side, now that Ender is ignoring me, maybe I won't have to defend myself against his oversimplification of my arguments any more.

You have lied about me lying. Several times. When I establish that I did not lie, you pick a few more posts that can be twisted to show a supposed lie, and claim again that I have lied. I have never, Once, in all my time here, claimed that I was not expereinced with the rules and strategy of this game. Show me one post. One post. One single post where I have claimed this. Go on. I dare you. Also, I have made mistakes. For one, I got Jags build order wrong a turn or two ago, and I have been allowing people to move fleets to spain when the coast was not specified. In any case. I've adjudicated F06. Germany is in civil disorder after three NMRs. Would you like to declare a draw, your imperial majesty?

You don't. Yup. Uh-huh. Whatever. Do you even have a back-pedal for saying that you aren't for forcing players to play a game that isn't fun? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some answer that was.

No. You said that everything you learned about the game steps from what you saw online. Actually owning the game for a while, having the manuals in hand, and discussing the game with your friends constitutes having knowledge of the game well before researching it online. It demonstrates that you lied yet again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The manual that came with the board is twelve pages long. I have a manual in hand, but it is the one that I linked everyone too, printed out and stapled. Considering my friends weren't interested enough to play, what do you think the chances are that they were interested enough to learn anything about the strategy of it? And I bought the board off eBay, after researching it online. The fact remains, you still took the quote right out of context. You even inserted a full stop at the end, instead of elipses, in order to make it seem like it was a whole post.

I thought I was the one arguing semantics? Ender, we've been over this, and you know it. Even in the post we're arguing over, I said that I "know the rules back to front". I have never denied this. All I have said is that I had less experince than you at actually playing the game. Tell me Ender, why did you take a half sentence from my first post out of its context?

Ender, you really ought to know that constructing strawman arguments, accusing people of backpedalling when you can't answer a rebuttal and taking quotes out of context doesn't mean you are right.

In Fantasy Football, let's say one player decides to give up halfway during the season and wants to trade away his best players to another team to shift the balance of power in the league. A vote requiring unanimous decision couldn't happen, so an unfair trade would occur destroying the legitimacy of the league. A majority or 2/3's vote however keeps the game fair. In this case, 2 out of 7 players were shafted right off the bat. 6 players out of 7 were fine with a reset. 1 wasn't. I wonder if that one player had an unfair advantage because of not resetting. The GM sure implied as such. So one person wanting to keep an unfair advantage in the face of 6 players who are unhappy is fair? If that is what you truly believe is fair, then yes I feel completely vindicated assassinating your character. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is not a problem with a unanimous vote, this is a problem with the initial rules which authorise such trades.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}> So now we're resorting to out of context quotes? That's low, Ender. Really low. The first post of the first thread on Diplomacy, entitled "Anyone ever played Diplomacy?":

I think you're grossly overestimating the "diplomacy" and "actually playing the game" aspects. By knowing strategies, you'll put yourself a leg up on anyone that's never even seen the game before. You'll know before hand which alliances do and do not work. The diplomacy aspect for the most part is just "d00d, attax0rs deez guys and I'll helpz0rs j00 OK!!!111?one?" with replies of "OK, r0x0rs onz0rs d00d" that are either the truth or the lie. Perhaps, but if I remember correctly when I originally said it, I'd only been playing in OBS-2 for a few days., which is hardly long enough to gain a good appreciation of how involved the diplomacy aspect it. Also, I made no attempt to hide where I found the strategy articles that I read, I even encouraged it. It wouldn't take long to read them, either. *shrug* Originally, I had intended to play the game with my friends, and so I read up on the rules, but it turned out none of my friends were intersted enough to play. Personally, I found the strategy articles quite interesting to read, so I read them, even after it was obvious that I wouldn't be playing any time soon. Plus, knowing the rules and strategies meant I could study the maps of various variants, which I enjoy doing. In any case, you're partially correct. I do happen to find Diplomacy fairly unenjoyable to play, and probably won't participate in any more games as a player. I've never given anyone a tarot reading, either, but I reckon I could do it without looking at a book listing the meanings of the cards. I just happen to enjoy learning about things I find interesting, even if I don't have a use for that knowledge.

I think this is correct: http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8738/di...yobs3f019om.gif

Votes that require majority are fair. Those that require unanimity are not. Votes that require unanimity are fair, especially when we are talking about changing the rules of a game when everyone was required to agree to the previous set of rules. Unanimous agreement was required to put them in place, so unanimous agreement should be required to change them. In this case, a majority vote would not be fair. You'll be able to declare a draw in about an hour. I'm so glad that a day's wait was worth having my character assassinated.

Here it is: Anyone else notice anything about this post that might suggest it was not intended to be taken seriously? Anyone? It is fair.

First of all, could you show me where I've said it? I can't seem to remember, and I would hate to say anything further on the matter before I can ensure that my answer can't be twisted by you into something which is nothing like what I intended to say.

Ender, you are the one who is flat out lying. I'm going to say this once more. Read closely. I have said that I am more expereinced with the rules, and the strategy of this game. Never once have I said I am more experinced with the diplomatic aspect, or at actually playing the game. These are two distinct things, the same difference between watching the superbowl and playing in it. Now, stop lying about what I have said.

Probably to make them seem evil. Putting K's in the name of a country always makes it sound evil or dystopian. Amerika, Kanada. And Korea. We shouldn't be worried about terrorists with nukes, since it's the letter K that really hates our freedom. I say we turn Sesame Street into a glass parcing lot. That'll show those pescy letter K's who's boss. "

"Just because you don't get to re-triangulate the pretty maps doesn't mean you should start TKing on me n00b!1! I am teh dipmeister you dirty h4XX0r!1! " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fixed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Brilliant!

This is the song I sing at parties. The Elements - Tom Lehrer (to the tune of "I am the very model of a Modern Major General") There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium, And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium, And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium, Europium, zirconium, lutetium, vanadium And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium And gold, protactinium and indium and gallium (inhale) And iodine and thorium and thulium and thallium. There's yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium And strontium and silicon and silver and samarium, And bismuth, bromine, lithium, beryllium and barium. There's holmium and helium and hafnium and erbium And phosphorous and francium and fluorine and terbium And manganese and mercury, molybdinum, magnesium, Dysprosium and scandium and cerium and cesium And lead, praseodymium, and platinum, plutonium, Paladium, promethium, potassium, polonium, and Tantalum, technetium, titanium, tellurium, (inhale) And cadmium and calcium and chromium and curium. There's sulfur, californium and fermium, berkelium And also mendelevium, einsteinium and nobelium And argon, krypton, neon, radon, xenon, zinc and rhodium And chlorine, carbon, cobalt, copper, Tungsten, tin and sodium. These are the only ones of which the news has come to Havahd, And there may be many others but they haven't been discavahd. Here's a flash version of the song with helpful lyrics.

If it's no fun for you, convince Kaftan to give up. Until he does, I as the GM have to take his enjoyment into account too. Just as I'm sure Mets was in favour of the restart, but didn't have it because someone voted against it.