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  1. It's the way that you love me -- Paula Abdul
  2. One sad song deserves another American Pie -- Don McClean A long long time ago I can still remember how that music used to make me smile And I knew if I had my chance That I could make those people dance And maybe they'd be happy for a while But February made me shiver With every paper I'd deliver Bad news on the doorstep I couldn't take one more step I can't remember if I cried When I read about his widowed bride But something touched me deep inside The day the music died So... CHORUS: Bye-bye, Miss American Pie Drove my chevy to the levee But the levee was dry And them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye Singin' this'll be the day that I die This'll be the day that I die Did you write the Book of Love And do you have faith in God above If the Bible tells you so Do you believe in rock 'n roll Can music save your mortal soul And can you teach me how to dance real slow Well, I know that you're in love with him 'Cause I saw you dancin' in the gym You both kicked off your shoes Man, I dig those rhythm and blues I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck With a pink carnation and a pickup truck But I knew I was out of luck The day the music died I started singin'... CHORUS Now for ten years we've been on our own And moss grows fat on a rollin' stone But that's not how it used to be When the jester sang for the King and Queen In a coat he borrowed from James Dean And a voice that came from you and me Oh, and while the King was looking down The jester stole his thorny crown The courtroom was adjourned No verdict was returned And while Lennon read a book of Marx The quartet practiced in the park And we sang dirges in the dark The day the music died We were singin'... CHORUS Helter Skelter in a summer swelter The Byrds flew off with a fallout shelter Eight miles high and falling fast It landed foul out on the grass The players tried for a forward pass With the jester on the sidelines in a cast Now the half-time air was sweet perfume While the Sergeants played a marching tune We all got up to dance Oh, but we never got the chance 'Cause the players tried to take the field The marching band refused to yield Do you recall what was revealed The day the music died We started singin'... CHORUS Oh, and there we were all in one place A generation Lost in Space With no time left to start again So come on, Jack be nimble, Jack be quick Jack Flash sat on a candlestick 'Cause fire is the Devil's only friend Oh, and as I watched him on the stage My hands were clenched in fists of rage No angel born in hell Could break that Satan's spell And as the flames climbed high into the night To light the sacrifical rite I saw Satan laughing with delight The day the music died He was singin'... CHORUS I met a girl who sang the blues And I asked her for some happy news But she just smiled and turned away I went down to the sacred store Where I'd heard the music years before But the man there said the music woudn't play And in the streets the children screamed The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed But not a word was spoken The church bells all were broken And the three men I admire most The Father, Son and the Holy Ghost They caught the last train for the coast The day the music died And they were singin'... CHORUS
  3. USER : --- Mothman ---- ATTRIBUTES Intellgence: 3
  4. This isn't a card, boyo. I have more things to say other than just focusing on your religion. ...But I can only call them as I see them. heh heh heh heh You'll just have to wait to see what I have to say. :D
  5. In honor of Mothman's Van Halen song: Right Now --- Van Halen Don
  6. Mothman and then Child of Flame. Child of Flame certainly isn't in the ganga club. I think I'll have some fun with that one! hahahaha
  7. Interesting lyrics. I thought it might be a love song at first. In a way it is. Who wrote/performed it? This is one of the lyrics where I wish I had the song handy so I could listen to it.
  8. Don't push the panic button just yet, folks. I don't believe in anything so sinister, Azarkon. I simply think it's bad policy. I don't think there's some person sitting in the background wringing his hands, counting the days until he can make his move. Rather, I think it puts the policy in place that, given the right opportunity, someone in the future might be able to use against the Republic. For a second, forget your hatred of Bush. Look at it this way, there were plenty of Democrats complaining about the National Guard. If the National Guard has greater power, then most folks will probably applaud, as Azarkon says. The danger isn't now. It isn't even this century. Most laws aren't enacted for sinister reasons. Folks just find ways to use those laws for their own ends later. This isn't just an opportunity for liberals to bash Bush. It's an issue for Americans altogether. This is a terrible policy. If we start making crazy conspiracy accusations, then it will only be easier to marginalize the dissent. Even if you think Bush is a Sith Lord, it's better to use a more reasoned approach in attacking this vile measure. While it might not do any good, I would suggest writing to your congressman and senator. Write in snail mail. Call also. Yes, I'm one of those nut jobs who does these things. I don't know if it does any good, but at least I didn't sit idly by while the government put in place the policy of using the armed services as a police force.
  9. "Our constitution does not copy the laws of neighbouring states; we are rather a pattern to others than imitators ourselves. Its administration favours the many instead of the few; this is why it is called a democracy. If we look to the laws, they afford equal justice to all in their private differences; if no social standing, advancement in public life falls to reputation for capacity, class considerations not being allowed to interfere with merit; nor again does poverty bar the way, if a man is able to serve the state, he is not hindered by the obscurity of his condition. The freedom which we enjoy in our government extends also to our ordinary life. There, far from exercising a jealous surveillance over each other, we do not feel called upon to be angry with our neighbour for doing what he likes, or even to indulge in those injurious looks which cannot fail to be offensive, although they inflict no positive penalty. But all this ease in our private relations does not make us lawless as citizens. Against this fear is our chief safeguard, teaching us to obey the magistrates and the laws, particularly such as regard the protection of the injured, whether they are actually on the statute book, or belong to that code which, although unwritten, yet cannot be broken without acknowledged disgrace. "Further, we provide plenty of means for the mind to refresh itself from business. We celebrate games and sacrifices all the year round, and the elegance of our private establishments forms a daily source of pleasure and helps to banish the spleen; while the magnitude of our city draws the produce of the world into our harbour, so that to the Athenian the fruits of other countries are as familiar a luxury as those of his own. "If we turn to our military policy, there also we differ from our antagonists. We throw open our city to the world, and never by alien acts exclude foreigners from any opportunity of learning or observing, although the eyes of an enemy may occasionally profit by our liberality; trusting less in system and policy than to the native spirit of our citizens; while in education, where our rivals from their very cradles by a painful discipline seek after manliness, at Athens we live exactly as we please, and yet are just as ready to encounter every legitimate danger. In proof of this it may be noticed that the Lacedaemonians do not invade our country alone, but bring with them all their confederates; while we Athenians advance unsupported into the territory of a neighbour, and fighting upon a foreign soil usually vanquish with ease men who are defending their homes. Our united force was never yet encountered by any enemy, because we have at once to attend to our marine and to dispatch our citizens by land upon a hundred different services; so that, wherever they engage with some such fraction of our strength, a success against a detachment is magnified into a victory over the nation, and a defeat into a reverse suffered at the hands of our entire people. And yet if with habits not of labour but of ease, and courage not of art but of nature, we are still willing to encounter danger, we have the double advantage of escaping the experience of hardships in anticipation and of facing them in the hour of need as fearlessly as those who are never free from them. "Nor are these the only points in which our city is worthy of admiration. We cultivate refinement without extravagance and knowledge without effeminacy; wealth we employ more for use than for show, and place the real disgrace of poverty not in owning to the fact but in declining the struggle against it. Our public men have, besides politics, their private affairs to attend to, and our ordinary citizens, though occupied with the pursuits of industry, are still fair judges of public matters; for, unlike any other nation, regarding him who takes no part in these duties not as unambitious but as useless, we Athenians are able to judge at all events if we cannot originate, and, instead of looking on discussion as a stumbling-block in the way of action, we think it an indispensable preliminary to any wise action at all. Again, in our enterprises we present the singular spectacle of daring and deliberation, each carried to its highest point, and both united in the same persons; although usually decision is the fruit of ignorance, hesitation of reflection. But the palm of courage will surely be adjudged most justly to those, who best know the difference between hardship and pleasure and yet are never tempted to shrink from danger. In generosity we are equally singular, acquiring our friends by conferring, not by receiving, favours. Yet, of course, the doer of the favour is the firmer friend of the two, in order by continued kindness to keep the recipient in his debt; while the debtor feels less keenly from the very consciousness that the return he makes will be a payment, not a free gift. And it is only the Athenians, who, fearless of consequences, confer their benefits not from calculations of expediency, but in the confidence of liberality. "In short, I say that as a city we are the school of Hellas, while I doubt if the world can produce a man who, where he has only himself to depend upon, is equal to so many emergencies, and graced by so happy a versatility, as the Athenian. And that this is no mere boast thrown out for the occasion, but plain matter of fact, the power of the state acquired by these habits proves. For Athens alone of her contemporaries is found when tested to be greater than her reputation, and alone gives no occasion to her assailants to blush at the antagonist by whom they have been worsted, or to her subjects to question her title by merit to rule. Rather, the admiration of the present and succeeding ages will be ours, since we have not left our power without witness, but have shown it by mighty proofs; and far from needing a Homer for our panegyrist, or other of his craft whose verses might charm for the moment only for the impression which they gave to melt at the touch of fact, we have forced every sea and land to be the highway of our daring, and everywhere, whether for evil or for good, have left imperishable monuments behind us. Such is the Athens for which these men, in the assertion of their resolve not to lose her, nobly fought and died; and well may every one of their survivors be ready to suffer in her cause. "Indeed if I have dwelt at some length upon the character of our country, it has been to show that our stake in the struggle is not the same as theirs who have no such blessings to lose, and also that the panegyric of the men over whom I am now speaking might be by definite proofs established. That panegyric is now in a great measure complete; for the Athens that I have celebrated is only what the heroism of these and their like have made her, men whose fame, unlike that of most Hellenes, will be found to be only commensurate with their deserts. And if a test of worth be wanted, it is to be found in their closing scene, and this not only in cases in which it set the final seal upon their merit, but also in those in which it gave the first intimation of their having any. For there is justice in the claim that steadfastness in his country's battles should be as a cloak to cover a man's other imperfections; since the good action has blotted out the bad, and his merit as a citizen more than outweighed his demerits as an individual. But none of these allowed either wealth with its prospect of future enjoyment to unnerve his spirit, or poverty with its hope of a day of freedom and riches to tempt him to shrink from danger. No, holding that vengeance upon their enemies was more to be desired than any personal blessings, and reckoning this to be the most glorious of hazards, they joyfully determined to accept the risk, to make sure of their vengeance, and to let their wishes wait; and while committing to hope the uncertainty of final success, in the business before them they thought fit to act boldly and trust in themselves. Thus choosing to die resisting, rather than to live submitting, they fled only from dishonour, but met danger face to face, and after one brief moment, while at the summit of their fortune, escaped, not from their fear, but from their glory. "So died these men as became Athenians. You, their survivors, must determine to have as unfaltering a resolution in the field, though you may pray that it may have a happier issue. And not contented with ideas derived only from words of the advantages which are bound up with the defence of your country, though these would furnish a valuable text to a speaker even before an audience so alive to them as the present, you must yourselves realize the power of Athens, and feed your eyes upon her from day to day, till love of her fills your hearts; and then, when all her greatness shall break upon you, you must reflect that it was by courage, sense of duty, and a keen feeling of honour in action that men were enabled to win all this, and that no personal failure in an enterprise could make them consent to deprive their country of their valour, but they laid it at her feet as the most glorious contribution that they could offer. For this offering of their lives made in common by them all they each of them individually received that renown which never grows old, and for a sepulchre, not so much that in which their bones have been deposited, but that noblest of shrines wherein their glory is laid up to be eternally remembered upon every occasion on which deed or story shall call for its commemoration. For heroes have the whole earth for their tomb; and in lands far from their own, where the column with its epitaph declares it, there is enshrined in every breast a record unwritten with no tablet to preserve it, except that of the heart. These take as your model and, judging happiness to be the fruit of freedom and freedom of valour, never decline the dangers of war. For it is not the miserable that would most justly be unsparing of their lives; these have nothing to hope for: it is rather they to whom continued life may bring reverses as yet unknown, and to whom a fall, if it came, would be most tremendous in its consequences. And surely, to a man of spirit, the degradation of cowardice must be immeasurably more grievous than the unfelt death which strikes him in the midst of his strength and patriotism! "Comfort, therefore, not condolence, is what I have to offer to the parents of the dead who may be here. Numberless are the chances to which, as they know, the life of man is subject; but fortunate indeed are they who draw for their lot a death so glorious as that which has caused your mourning, and to whom life has been so exactly measured as to terminate in the happiness in which it has been passed. Still I know that this is a hard saying, especially when those are in question of whom you will constantly be reminded by seeing in the homes of others blessings of which once you also boasted: for grief is felt not so much for the want of what we have never known, as for the loss of that to which we have been long accustomed. Yet you who are still of an age to beget children must bear up in the hope of having others in their stead; not only will they help you to forget those whom you have lost, but will be to the state at once a reinforcement and a security; for never can a fair or just policy be expected of the citizen who does not, like his fellows, bring to the decision the interests and apprehensions of a father. While those of you who have passed your prime must congratulate yourselves with the thought that the best part of your life was fortunate, and that the brief span that remains will be cheered by the fame of the departed. For it is only the love of honour that never grows old; and honour it is, not gain, as some would have it, that rejoices the heart of age and helplessness. "Turning to the sons or brothers of the dead, I see an arduous struggle before you. When a man is gone, all are wont to praise him, and should your merit be ever so transcendent, you will still find it difficult not merely to overtake, but even to approach their renown. The living have envy to contend with, while those who are no longer in our path are honoured with a goodwill into which rivalry does not enter. On the other hand, if I must say anything on the subject of female excellence to those of you who will now be in widowhood, it will be all comprised in this brief exhortation. Great will be your glory in not falling short of your natural character; and greatest will be hers who is least talked of among the men, whether for good or for bad. "My task is now finished. I have performed it to the best of my ability, and in word, at least, the requirements of the law are now satisfied. If deeds be in question, those who are here interred have received part of their honours already, and for the rest, their children will be brought up till manhood at the public expense: the state thus offers a valuable prize, as the garland of victory in this race of valour, for the reward both of those who have fallen and their survivors. And where the rewards for merit are greatest, there are found the best citizens. "And now that you have brought to a close your lamentations for your relatives, you may depart." Pericles of Athens
  10. Hey, that's true. I was actually thinking about that the other day. It just seemed odd that we were all shopping for avatars at chez Calax.
  11. Truly a classic. Don't Fear the Reaper.
  12. This is terrible. Of course, quite a few liberals blamed Bush because the national guard did not act like as domestic police force. Now, other liberals bemoan the fact that we have the national guard taking on the role of police in "emergencies." I don't like the sound of that at all. I hope this doesn't go anywhere. I hope this doesn't pass and I hope Bush quits caving to public hysteria over the NO flood. It detriments far outweigh the benefits of using the armed forces as a domestic police force.
  13. You people! :Eldar's shaking his head with a wry grin icon: You know, I'm not going to be perfect at getting every score just right. When I do a report, I go off of experiences I've had with the subject of the report. I also read through quite a few old posts, normally from the very first post. I think of things that strike me personally. I think of what other folks have to say about the subject. Finally, I take a lot of time to think of what that member brings to the boards. That's why it takes me so long to do these reports. Do you deserve a 3 rating for naysaying? At that moment I thought you did. Will you tomorrow? Probably not. Whatever the score is, my comments are what's important. You were complaining a bit lately, which I thought put you in the "normal" range of 3. Finally, young lady, whatever you do in a game is your business. To me, you'll always be a Diplomat. That is final. :Eldar's fond smile icon:
  14. Ah, too many words. I simply talk too much.
  15. Something you have no chance of entering, Child. ...But you could provide them a light from one of your many flames.
  16. Chicken Little. I always aim to please. I think my arguments amount to more than what you've suggested. I wasn't the first person to cite radicals. I'm glad to let folks decide what they wish regarding my arguments. ...And, because I like you, Chicken Little, Chicken Little, Chicken Little. BTW: This post was adressed to Commissar. :D
  17. You're a relatively smart fellow, Commissar. I'll let you read the previous few posts and make a guess. No, I don't think someone standing outside the grocery handing flyers to folks is radical. Annoying? Sure. Radical? No. Someone you can reasonably fear advocating killing you because you didn't take his flyer? Get a grip, man.
  18. Fair enough. I'll let you get in the last response and then let the matter rest between us. After all, I don't want a vendetta over this issue. :D ...And it's nice to have you posting. This is your chance to hit me with my guard down, Di. hahaha
  19. I put Mus? and Baley in the Ganga club. They've been up in arms every now and then, but they're usually cool and laidback.
  20. I will now note that I continue to think that many of you, and by "many of you," I mean a group of people of which you are a member, are acting like Chicken Little. Should that be the cause of your ire, then I'll have to accept your anger. I woud like to clarify one thing, however. I didn't belittle the argument that radicals are a problem. In fact, extreme Christian radicals are, because of their radical stance, treasonous. The most deadly terrorist attack on American soil prior to the Twin Towers was commited by US citizens, was it not? Now, I do contend that those dread Cfs are not a dire threat to our country. I don't put all Cfs in the Radical Christian category. Do you? I won't presume. I'll simply let you clarify.
  21. No, I don't recall contending such a thing, or jumping to any such conclusion. If you had quoted the part of my post that made you believe that, I'd be in a better position to clarify my meaning, and correct your inaccurate presumption. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wrote: You responded: Perhaps I misunderstood your comments. You responded to a statement in which I compared the all powerful "Christian fundamentalists" with outright treason. It seems, at a glance that you place these Cfs as more damaging to our Democracy, but I'll let you clarify the matter for me.
  22. I hear a lot about students who are ridiculed for not saying the pledge. What about places and classrooms where children are ridiculed for saying the pledge? I don't know who all's been a teacher in this thread, but I can tell you that kids will make fun of other kids no matter what. If a child simply skips the words "under God," I doubt most kids will notice. What about places where the pledge is simply a joke? Places none of the students say the pledge? Where kids simply stand and talk and joke during the pledge? Do you think a child who says the pledge might be the target of scorn? Calax is definitely against the phrase "under God" and yet he made the following observation. "I was lucky I lived in sacremento, after I moved to EDH my teachers seemed to stop caring and I found my self wondering why I wasn't saying the pledge every morning." Really, what's the deal with the issue? Some folks suggest that the very idea of a pledge is bad. It is, according to some, nationalistic. Some folks suggest, at least from what I can tell, that the pledge is perfectly fine, but the words "under God" cause undue hardship. Some folks suggest that the pledge is fine, but that it is a mockery in the way it is recited in schools today, where the problem isn't that the children are forced to recite the pledge but that they are free to talk during the pledge, make fun of it, and don't understand it in the first place. Finally, some folks suggest that the pledge is fine and that it is perfectly legimate for schools to have a policy of recitation as is. Have I missed anyone? ...And I hope that I don't have to point out how much longer every post would be if we had to include every exception set for every statement. I would have thought that the words, "even atheists" would, logically, mean that other groups were involved in the argument. Right? I mean, had I said "atheists are not caused hardship," I could understand the confusion. As it stands, I have clearly understood from the very begining that some non-atheists are against the phrase "under God."
  23. I guess Peter Pan is something like a god. I mean, he never ages and he can fly and whatnot. I wonder. :Eldar walks away with a confused look on his face:
  24. Look again, Mus?. I happen to know you've been nominated to be Pan. Apparently, it's just not gone been certified yet. I'd ask Calax what the deal is! :D
  25. I nominate Musopticon? to be Pan. He makes a damned fine Pan. Don't mistake this for a pan, in which you cook a meal. Nor should you mistake him for PAN.
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