Gromnir

you could be right. motb bishop were probable more significant as we know how curious josh is 'bout... faith, or perhaps Faith. has him find resolution and oblivion in wall o' faithless is seeming appropriate and disturbing. sounds about right. HA! Good Fun!

you can get a nice fugly LONG list o' extra-constitutional actions by a President and most folks will thinks you is speaking of the younger Bush. don't attach a name to the President and just show list o' actions such as suspending habeas corpus, using military tribunals to convict US citizens, confiscation of property without compensation, etc. when you reveal that Lincoln were the villain responsible for the list, you will no doubt spark debate. am not a fan o' how history is taught in US schools. sorry. is too much right and wrong. Brown v. Board was right. Japanese Internment was wrong. Shay's Rebellion gets a footnote or a paragraph? Revolutionary War were a battle o' justice for oppressed colonists who were denied rights by the English Crown... forget the fact that the Crown had effectively capitulated to pretty much all colonist demands, and that the famous tea tax were actual little more than pro forma, 'specially as price o' tea had effectively been lowered. etc. issues is typical more complex and much more significant if students were compelled to looks for deeper meaning. instead, in a rush to meet nclb standards, we miss the opportunity to actual teach kids. kinda sad. HA! Good Fun!

some developers is very reactive to fans. others is less so... and when we say "developers," we mean individual developers. is not necessarily an organizational trend. Lukas Kristjanson, for example, were at bio before Gaider, but am suspecting that posts ratios is something approaching 5,000:1 in favor of Gaider. chrisA makes infrequent blog posts on theses boards, but actual board posts wherein he interacts with fans is even more rare than feargus urquhart posts. am suspecting some developers read w/o posting, and apparently some developers post w/o reading. the influence fans has is tougher to gauge w/o interactivity. nevertheless, having impact on development is different than cameos of boardies. as we noted above, bioware felt as if they had learned hard lessons from cameo contests and other cameo incidents... which reminds us that we forgot to mention a nwn cameo contest. bio thought they had learned something from the bg2 cameo contest, so 'stead o' having developers decide "winning" submissions, the biowarians created a fan poll to choose winners. the thing is that it became apparent that there were rampant cheating going on in the voting process. burned again was bio. is a conscious choice: the amount o' impact fans has on bioware games is not gonna be measured by number o' boardie cameos, 'cause biowarians finally learned just how petty the community can be regarding cameos. have impact on developers should result in a better game, or at least a more appealing one. to Gromnir's way of thinking, impact on game and cameos is not necessarily related. HA! Good Fun!

our favorite game trailer told us pretty much nothing 'bout the game. hell, even the music were complete different from what were eventually in the game. "that were kewl," is what we thought when we viewed it from our totsc install disk. da:i is a nice enough trailer, just not kewl. HA! Good Fun!

not melisan for tob, but the yakman that were in watcher's keep were a boardie. draconis were also in tob. is loads that were in bg2 that were kinda random, like del and mencar pebble crusher. lanfear were named for the board personality and not the robert jordan book character. she didn't like her cameo, not one bit. a couple bg2 characters were winners of a contest. the githyanki wildmage that shows up in waukeen's promenade, and the scimitar throwing habib from the docks district were contest winners... and you cannot imagine how bitter many o' the non-winners were when they heard the winning submissions. a guy named diesel were the guy who suggested the githyanki, and he stopped posting shortly after the contest winners were flamed into oblivion. between reactions to the inclusion o' Gromnir, lanfear rage and the nadir of bioware board behavior following the cameo contest, Gaider said he had no interest in adding boardie cameos ever again. that were a few years ago, so perhaps he has changed his mind. HA! Good Fun!

Whaa?? When did he do that? Only time I witnessed him break character was on the old Interplay boards circa 2003 when he called out Feargus for the downfall of Black Isle. sometimes people "see" us drop 'cause we happen to make a post that don't happen to have a pronoun. *shrug* has been about 5 times since 1999. HA! Good Fun!

Gromnir you understand that just because someone says something on the Internet it doesn't necessarily make it true. am not disagreeing with this, but am not quite sure what you thought would be proof. HA! Good Fun!

*chuckle* link? why on earth would somebody commit that sorta information to their website or blog? don't know what to tell you. is not as if we got some kinda special pin from bioware to show folks we is the original Gromnir. believe or do not. doesn't affect us either way. if serious interested, ask some old-timey posters who pre-date bg2. current reg posters who would know: amentep, leferd and... *sigh* vol. josh and some other obsidian developers would also know. if really bored, start a thread at bio or any number o' other rpg boards with some bg2 history. "some a-hole over at the obsidian boards is claiming to be the original Gromnir..." bet you get some responses 'bout history o' the character. as for hurl observation, bg2 community were actual kinda large, even compared to more "modern" developments. am suspecting the main reason the community were so large were 'cause of the feedback from developers. bio developers were extreme reactive when compared to most developers, past and present. HA! Good Fun!

Ahh. Apparently encouraging someone to broaden their perspective means that I lack the ability to differentiate between distinct things. I'll get that checked out, stat. you got roles reversed. you cannot see difference 'tween final stretch goal and the other offerings. Gromnir, and the kids who watch sesame street, can tell the difference 'tween letters and numbers. perhaps it would be best to try and broaden your perspective, 'cause regardless of fact that obsidian calls all of 'em stretch goals, it does not make 'em all the same. look beyond the label. added the other video 'cause it tickles us. HA! Good Fun!

For these far right politicians it is far more important to cause a stir than to say anything legible. I guess he just took it to the logical next step. Yeah, but that sort of non-sequiterial leaping is the sort of gibberish I've only ever seen before in a roleplaying game, while attempting to confuse guards. Usually just before setting fire to the curtains and jumping out the window. Please tell me he then went on to set fire to the curtains and jump out the window. each story we has read has details slight different, but they all include the bit 'bout Zhirinovsky ordering an aide to rape a woman on his command. ... sounds like dementia o' some sort. wonder if he has been tested for syphilis. HA! Good Fun!

... last summer we had an ac repair guy come out to a rental home-- tenants were complaining of ridiculous high electric bill during summer months. the guy was at least 6'4" and over 300lbs. the access to get under the house (raised foundation) were requiring a little girl, or maybe the chinese acrobat from the newer ocean's 11 movie. ducts in ceiling were accessible via an opening in the garage... 13' up with no descending ladder. the repairman has a ladder, but is probable 14' long, so ladder is needing to be held near perpendicular to the ground. hefty repair actually climbs up the ladder, but realizes that with the ladder in the way, he will never get his ample frame through the hole. we felt bad for the guy, but not bad enough to pay for a service visit which included no service. HA! Good Fun!

picture is 'posed to look "epic," right? box art and the game's title is neck-and-neck on our list o' concerns regarding development... somewheres near very bottom of the list. HA! Good Fun!

His Obsidian forum persona is based on the half-Orc Gromnir, a character from Baldur's Gate 2 who would refer to himself in third person. this is incorrect. is there Anything you has been correct about in this thread? maybe we will review. no doubt there is some stuff you got right, but... HA! Good Fun! Isn't it the reverse? A character was named after you? I can't remember, I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be. essentially, yes. Gaider made the tob character a half-orc 'cause most folks on the old bg2 boards assumed that the Gromnir persona were 'posed to be half-orc-- were kinda a joke. HA! Good Fun!

His Obsidian forum persona is based on the half-Orc Gromnir, a character from Baldur's Gate 2 who would refer to himself in third person. this is incorrect. is there Anything you has been correct about in this thread? maybe we will review. no doubt there is some stuff you got right, but... HA! Good Fun!

we file you under the following: vol much like the aforementioned, you is wacky obtuse. we mentions average guy in oklahoma's views o' happening in europe and you use a rick santorum quote to refute? 'course Then immediate follow-up that you don't think that quote from 1 guy is meaningful. okie dokie. nevertheless, Before that wackiness, you ask if, "Rick Santorum only exists on the internet," as if such a query is doing anything other than making you seem resistant to reason equaling religious zealot levels. serious. am stymied. HA! Good Fun! ps if it makes you feel better, vol is a kanadian

Hmm, I must be unlucky then, since I've met a lot of United Statians who were very opinionated about "Europe" (as if it were a country, rather than a continent filled with many different countries, each with very distinct national identities) and its "socialism", its liberalism, and its general wickedness. And it's not even just the common man on the street. For example, apparently in my own country the elderly are wearing bracelets saying they don't want to die, out of fear of the deathsquads that are going about killing off the elderly. Oh, and 10 percent of our deaths are due to euthanasia. This is according to former presidential candidate Rick Santorum. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/euthanasia-in-the-netherlands-rick-santorums-bogus-statistics/2012/02/21/gIQAJaRbSR_blog.html this is just one reason why the internet is so dangerous to some folks. your opinion on Americans is based on what you has gleaned form your internet travels? HA! Good Fun! Rick Santorum only exists on the internet? And no, I don't base my opinion on Americans on what I "glean from my internet travels", because I don't have an opinion on all Americans. The U.S. is a pretty large place with a lot of different people, I don't pretend they are all the same, and that I can know all about all of them. I just wanted to correct the picture you painted of European know-it-alls in one corner, and modest Americans who wouldn't dare to say something about Europe in the other. *sigh* santorum is one guy. (probably learned of him via the internet) why on earth would you suggest that the views o' one guy is representative o' any significant proportion o' Americans? post something vol said and suggest it represents all kanadians? junai can make a post and no doubt you think it is a meaningful representation o' the people o' norway? this is getting repetitive. you say that you ain't doing something.... but that is what you did immediate before saying you don't. is mind boggling. really. am not sure if you is intentionally obtuse, or accidental. HA! Good Fun! ps am not even gonna try and glean what you meant by, "Rick Santorum only exists on the internet?" did you think when we referenced internet travels we thought you were discovering a mythical max headroom and those ghosts in the machine form the recent tron movie? is like trying to converse with a dolphin. am thinking you is having enough intelligence to communicate, but is all coming out pops and squeaks... nonsense.

What? What? ... ... ... Happy belated 420 to you too, mates! am assuming that is the Merry Cannabis Day thing as 'posed to the Hitler's Birthday remembrance. for some reason we thought it were also the feast day of st. ireneaus, but that is june 28... *shrug* this thread is complete random, so don't complain if we identify catholic saint feast days. HA! Good Fun!

Hmm, I must be unlucky then, since I've met a lot of United Statians who were very opinionated about "Europe" (as if it were a country, rather than a continent filled with many different countries, each with very distinct national identities) and its "socialism", its liberalism, and its general wickedness. And it's not even just the common man on the street. For example, apparently in my own country the elderly are wearing bracelets saying they don't want to die, out of fear of the deathsquads that are going about killing off the elderly. Oh, and 10 percent of our deaths are due to euthanasia. This is according to former presidential candidate Rick Santorum. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/euthanasia-in-the-netherlands-rick-santorums-bogus-statistics/2012/02/21/gIQAJaRbSR_blog.html this is just one reason why the internet is so dangerous to some folks. your opinion on Americans is based on what you has gleaned form your internet travels? HA! Good Fun!

1) huh? your first comment makes no sense. serious. am not being sarcastic. 2) elrond posted a definition. he were not making an argument. maybe you shoulda' bothered yourself to read his posts... or not. regardless, for reasons noted above, we will always dismiss wiki cites... not arguments. 3) 3d people are the norm. we tried to post as a 2d person but we couldn't work a keyboard. as a 4d person, our awareness o' time was too alien to make posts that were coherent. HA! Good Fun!

Gromnir sure seems to have some negative feelings toward Europeans. quite the contrary. we loved our time teaching in europe. we were however, surprised by certain... trends. europeans we knew were typically academics and University students, so perhaps that explains their inexplicable "expertise" regarding the US and Americans. were kinda funny listening to our euro friends talk 'bout how Americans is this or that. we would point out that we Gromnir were American and they would almost seem startled. "well, we don't mean you." *shrug* those conversations never went anywhere useful. europeans spend considerably more o' their time worrying about Americans than the other way around. HA! Good Fun!

btw, am not certain how "locals" got benefit our spell-check auto-correction above... "locales"? really? needs be more careful. HA! Good Fun! ps Gromnir is not much different than the hypothetical guy from oklahoma we described earlier. sure, we stays current with world affairs n' such, but if somebody told us that Lithuania had a democratically elected king-for-life and that the current king were a dancing pig from Vilnius, we would need to check first to make certain that the claim were incorrect.

... silly europeans and their parliamentary inspired preconceptions. had a professor at Cal, a brusque German woman, who repeated over and over that europeans saw US government as alien and seemed doomed to framing any issue o' government organization in a context more familiar to them. the thing is, Gromnir attended University in late 80s ... were a time when the internet were used by the govt./military and by some small segments of academia to send glorified email messages. our exposure to european provincialism did not occur til we went to spain and england. people in the US may be ignorant o' european politics... is disturbing how little the average guy from oklahoma cares 'bout greece or the ukraine. the thing is, unlike eropeans, the guy in oklahoma don't pretend to be knowledgeable 'bout european government. take the most liberal democrat representative you can imagine. now, have her represent some congressional district that has an air force base or a boeing factory. nobody in the US is shocked by how she votes on defense spending bills, but europeans is. HA! Good Fun!

speaking of rush jobs and recycling and Brian Tyler did soundtrack for children o' dune in one month. kinda a funny aside, Tyler claimed that lyrics for inama nushif is in freman, which he compiled through studious examinations o' Herbert's books. 'course Herbert only ever included about 5 words in imaginary freman into his books. turns out that Tyler stole from some kinda dune encyclopedia... didn't give credit. the freman language he actually were using were from an excerpt that a contributor, an expert on arabic languages, made to the dune encyclopedia. anywho, tyler lifts a block o' imagined freman text, added some gibberish where he felt necessary, and then took credit for self. ... nice song though. oh, as to recycling, portions o' the children o' dune soundtrack has been used in a number o' big budget hollywood movies, and at least 1 video game. not bad for 1 month o' work. HA! Good Fun! ps we edited the post so you could see actual context in which inama nushif were utilized in children of dune. is illustrative of our point about danger o' recycling as now if we hear tyler's work used as some kinda generic sad love song, it doesn't work for us.

most fans has a knee-jerk when dealing with obsidian... all flaws is result o' rush by publisher. probably doesn't help with tim cain in house neither... get troika fans jumping on-board. am suspecting that what he means is that original composer were dumped at some point during development. Morgan were brought in late to cobble something together after the initial fail. HA! Good Fun!

am not doubting that ps:t were rushed. listen to ambient music in sigil and then compare to similar music in fallout 2, in particular. is same, or so close as not to make much difference. have a distinct sound is ok, but not so much when very different games is given feel o' sameness. HA! Good Fun!