Gromnir

we lived a couple doors down from a guy who played dl in the nfl for seven years... he even went to the pro bowl one year. am feeling cheated by fate. HA! Good Fun!

we did quote. that is what started all this. poor memory and poor reading comprehension. So would you agree it's out of place? so, honestly, what is it that rises to unacceptable "out of place" for hp? we cannot tell from you or aluminum's attempted summary. as we observed, alora and khalid's curious bg catchphrases were ejaculants that did not depend on player interaction.... not that you give any actual reasoning why lack o' interaction would intensify the degree to which a response is out of place. alora will spout her song lyrics at the most curious moments. get blown up by a fireball trap? walk through a door. die fighting wyverns. is pure crapshoot for some o' the peculiar bg catchphrases. alora is just one o' the companions to do so. companion interjection o' porky pig and major alan "Dutch" schaefer random and repetitive and irrespective of player actions were not an endemic issue in bg? gosh. 4th wall is referenced many times. is fourth wall violations integral to "out of place?" seems doubtful. Al suggests that hp is not finding 4th wall violations to be fundamental out of place. repetition appears to be an enhancer o' out o' place? okie dokie. we got loads o' repetition in the bg examples we already provided. so, if elora quoting the youngbloods song til we begin to imagine strangling chet powers is not out of place, but the goblin joke is, we need explanations. aluminum references immersion breaking. is not his fault for doing so as he is trying to explain your concerns. regardless, as we should all know by now, immersion is just 'bout the most subjective gaming concept discussed on these boards, which is why it is typical subject to developer derision. "immersion" in and of itself is a thoroughly pointless concept. is "out of place" shorthand for immersion breaking? that would largely explain why hp is avoiding responding. dunno. stuff such as the chelsey crusher is not repetitive in and o' themselves, but such an observation clear misses the point. the degree to which pop culture references is injected into bg is resulting in a high degree o' frequency. can't look at the chelsey crusher in a vacuum and be fair. is chelsey crusher and peter north and xvar quoting oppenheimer, who were quoting bhagavad gita, chapter 11, verses 31-33. etc. again, and serious, explain "out of place." we know that you think that goblin comments is out of place. the problem is you actual never has explained "out of place." which is why we go in circles. if the goblin jokes is out of place for the reasons shared by aluminum, then so to is a legion o' bg examples. and still no genuine response from hp. we did quote hp, which is how this ridiculous bit o' silliness got started. we quoted you. if you believe you actual has answered, link. "my posts from page 17" *chuckle* our quote were from page 17. HA! Good Fun!

If I understood him clearly, it went something like this: stuff Would this be a fair assessment of the point you were making, HP? no, no, no. you must needs quote hp, but careful o' selective quoting 'cause hp is kinda confused 'bout "selective quoting." also, if one points out that your interpretation doesn't actual answer Gromnir queries, then hp will, we assume, criticize your lack o' reading comprehension and Gromnir's. highly repetitive were the spontaneous companion ejaculations o' alora and khalid from bg. such stuff were frequent ill-timed in bg, and as so few catchphrases were available, we got them ad nauseum. immersion-breaking (*chuckle*) resulting from repetitiveness or poor timing is gonna find the writers o' bg to be the most terrible o' sinners. a tongue-in-cheek goblin playing the race card sounds kinda amusing, but gauging the degree to which such is out-of-place compared to star trek references, porky pig quotes and pr0n star rangers extolling the grandness o' their wood strikes us as an extreme difficult task. am not actual certain what hp would say that could legit distinguish his difficulties with sod from similar applicable bg offerings. regardless, is not up to you or Gromnir to guess. we are far less able to accurate divine hp's meaning than is hp, yes? so why does he not respond? and how can we quote the absence o' an argument? we do not believe hp addressed, so how can we possible quote? duh. "" done? is hp's argument. he is the one that gotta explain. again, duh. believe that you made an argument that explains how to distinguish does not make it so. HA! Good Fun!

*groan* So you don't have a problem with my earlier posts from the previous page? *chuckle* Of course you responded to my later posts which you have taken issue with. *snort* Hiro if you cant provide the link then you are lying and your position is unclear and disingenuous am not sure why hp thinks that his mouse-over and 4th wall observations on the previous page is sufficient, 'cause as we already stated, we see little else from a cursory exam... but is no point in Gromnir arguing for hp, is there? hp should be making an argument for hp. lord knows why hp would want another poster explaining hp arguments for hp. idiotic way to make a point. the whole situation is utter ridiculous. never met somebody so averse to explaining or simple linking. is not as if Gromnir and hp has been having the same debate for multiple pages and hp is exhausted by repeating self to us. *chuckle* it should be clear from his last series o' responses that hp don't mind spam and repetition. 4th wall breaking mouseover observations is unresponsive, and they is conclusory. wholly inadequate given our request. "please, give us your reasoning rather than your conclusion. why exact is a tongue-in-cheek goblin opine 'bout racism more out-of-place in a story set within the sword coast o' the forgotten realms than is peter of the north, a woodsman who "knows how to handle himself," lecturing us 'bout wood and subterranean trees?" HA! Good Fun!

the beast at tanagra. hp at the court, the court of silence. shaka, when the wall fell. am closer to understanding manifested. HA! Good Fun!

? responding to you is giving us freaking brain freeze. respond or link to the appropriate response(s). is not hard. is only difficult if such doesn't exist. HA! Good Fun!

... so, you don't want us to selective quote, but you want us to find your argument rather than providing? HA! am not gonna argue for you. am not gonna try and imagine a real explanation for you. if you believe you responded to our query, then link... or don't. don't would seem better in the absence o' anything to link. this is getting ridiculous. HA! Good Fun!

link or don't. am not gonna read every one o' your posts looking for an answer... if one actual exists. your mouse response observations? that can't be it as such is non analogous, and is hardly providing any kinda rationale. is another conclusion w/o reasoning. you know where you believe the answer to be, so link, or don't. HA! Good Fun!

talk 'bout poor reading comprehension. "please, give us your reasoning rather than your conclusion. why exact is a tongue-in-cheek goblin opine 'bout racism more out of place in a story set within the sword coast o' the forgotten realms than is peter of the north, a woodsman who "knows how to handle himself," lecturing us 'bout wood and subterranean trees?" again, why is the one more offensive than the other? you explained your belief in the inappropriateness o' the goblin's opine, but why is such somehow worse than peter's bg wood handling? what is your reasoning? simple identify that one is a violation o' the 4th wall *snort* is hardly perspicacious or enlightening. is conclusory at best. so, am gonna give you another shot, now that we helped you with the simple task o' reading, to enlighten us with the root and cause o' your discrimination. HA! Good Fun!

obtuse is the kinda discrimination hp utilizes. please, give us your reasoning rather than your conclusion. why exact is a tongue-in-cheek goblin opine 'bout racism more out of place in a story set within the sword coast o' the forgotten realms than is peter of the north, a woodsman who "knows how to handle himself," lecturing us 'bout wood and subterranean trees? HA! Good Fun!

So would you agree it's out of place? in a bg game? "Heavy Halberd: The Chesley Crusher "First wielded by the much-maligned Ensign Chesley of the first exploratory fleet of Waterdeep, this famous halberd has been passed around for generations, but only to those strong enough to carry its considerable weight. The iron haft of this heavy polearm makes the weapon slow and unwieldy, but its sheer mass smashes skulls and shatters limbs." alora lines: "C'mon, people, now, smile on your brother. Everybody get together, try to love one another right now." "I don't think you're happy enough! I'll teach you to be happy! "Happy happy joy joy, happy happy joy joy!" too young for that one? khalid line: "Th-th-th-that's all, f-folks!" larry, daryl & daryl etc. HA! Good Fun!

we liked dredd, but the titular character works much better in comic books than he does in film. have an actor do dredd for +90 minutes? can't be easy. is a kewl character, but if you want character development in a dredd movie/show, it is gonna need come from the villains and from other judges. perhaps make a dredd kinda like the 1982 conan? arnold got a couple o' unforgettable scenes in conan, but his job were to be tough for +90 minutes... let james earl jones, max von sydow and even mako do the heavy lifting. am knowing it sounds odd, but am thinking you need to take considerable focus off of dredd to make a dredd show or movie work. dredd is more a function o' setting than actual character. he... is. as to the budget, we didn't mind dredd's dirty, ultraviolent, dystopia filmed almost entirely within a single grimy urban housing development. kinda reminded us o' the raid: redemption. HA! Good Fun!

we can't do that for tv shows... which is kinda funny when you consider how many "disappointment-watching" seasons o' white sox, blackhawks, bears, bulls and notre dame football and basketball that Gromnir has endured over the years. is particular amusing in regards to the white sox as we gave up on MLB after the strike year and then white sox actual improved and eventual won a world series. but for tv shows we gots near zero patience for disappointment. heck, we stopped watching snl in 1995. replace phil hartman with chris elliott? no... just, no. ain't been a regular viewer o' snl since 1995. HA! Good Fun!

am getting the distinct impression that manifested liked the most recent star wars offering. HA! Good Fun!

undrafted free agents http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/4/30/11545610/undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker-2016-nfl-draft-udfas with the draft being only seven rounds nowadays, there is always ufa that stick with teams. HA! Good Fun!

am admitted perplexed by the browns "analytics" approach that results in drafting 5 wrs given just how many needs they got. as for jags and the ruler o' the draft, the recipient o' such an award is always determined with the benefit o' hindsight... 2-3 years hindsight. myles jack is a pick that can complete blow up in the jags collective face. and in a time when so many teams is slaves to computer numbers, the jags went 180 and chose instead to rely 'pon college production. holmes, day and the kid from maryland whose name we always flub, were all fantastic producers in college, but they all got big question marks as to whether then can play in the nfl. titans worked the draft well to acquire extra picks. given that the draft is such a crap shoot, more picks is good. 'course the browns also gots themselves numerous picks and then chose the aforementioned wide receivers. there is a tendency for experts to pick baltimore as a draft winner every year 'cause there is such respect for the ravens scouting department, but such blind faith feels like a knee-jerk response made in large part 'cause winners o' the draft is unknowable today. *shrug* heck, as much as we like jaylon smith, we think dallas had a train wreck o' a draft insofar as filling needs. darren mcfadden played very well last year and the cowboys had other quality players at rb. where is the dallas safety and edge rusher Starters in this draft? dak prescott and ezekiel elliott is both having significant character flags and if there is one team that needs to focus more on character, it is the cowboys. etc. still, if jaylon smith does come back 90%, and if dak is the next joe montana, and if elliott is the next adrian peterson, and if the basketball player from baylor makes the transition to te, then jerry jones wreck is transformed into some kinda masterpiece o' football perspicacity. am not gonna know draft winner for a couple o' years, but typical fans is either over enthusiastic or over critical o' their team's draft. is rare in between. am thinking that the giants may have gotten a couple skill position steals. shepard looks like a quality wr and he can always contribute in the return game. perkins and adams have the potential to be fantastic later round gems. the rb from ucla seemed to be criminal underrated, and the te from south carolina were potential the second best prospect at his position. denver may eventual be crowned the 2016 draft champ, and is largely dependent on a single pick. lynch gots no experience under center, but if he gots a couple years to develop before being thrown into the nfl qb crucible, he could be exact what elway wants: a big and athletic qb who can make every throw and kill you with his feet if need be. if lynch ends up being the best qb from the 2016 draft, then am thinking broncos deserve consideration for champ. 2-3 years. at the moment, am admitted puzzled by the picks o' more than a few teams, but the draft were deep and the draft were interesting. am pulling for scooby wright iii. is a browns pick at #250, so is a prohibitive longshot prospect, but he gots a great name and he were so darn good in college that we cannot help but hope he proves that every team that passed on him, multiple times, were fools for ignoring his college production. 'course for a mike backer who runs a 4.87 40 to get drafted at all is also noteworthy. scooby wright iii. HA! Good Fun! ps am actual most disappointed with the raiders draft. in recent years the raiders has drafted extreme well. without al davis being involved in personnel decisions, the raiders has begun to resurrect their franchise. the raiders got some o' the true elite young players in the nfl, and they got 'em at numerous positions. but the 2016 raiders draft confuses us. wait til round 7 for ol? at one point it looked like the raiders were purposeful drafting guys with medical issues. conor cook? am... confused. even so, is gonna be 2-3 years.

two or three years from now, if dallas still sucks, nobody will blame their mediocrity on a single 2nd round gamble. converse, jaylon smith is the player in this draft we believe has the most potential o' being a hall of famer. sure, it is possible that jaylon smith never plays a down, and at the very least he sits a year. this is a risk pick. even so, he is gonna be a character guy that dallas is sorely in need o' and IF he recovers even 90%, folks will be calling jerry jones a genius... which hasn't been the case in many years. is not surprising that jones makes a risky pick 'cause o' the potential o' collecting laurels down the road. real head scratcher were round 1 when dallas didn't fill needs. HA! Good Fun!

am admitted interested not in lara croft/tomb raider, but if a filmmaker is planning on doing multiple actiony movies with the same attractive female lead, it makes sense to start with a younger actress. gotta plan for future, no? hope for three movies and you are gonna be looking at at least five years between filming o' the first and third flick, no? HA! Good Fun!

bosa is interesting, and Gromnir were surprised. most obvious reason for surprise were the other glaring needs for sd as already discussed elsewhere in this thread. that being said, multiple talent evaluators had bosa as their best overall prospect, but the knocks on him were noteworthy. bosa played at 280-285, but to improve his combine 40 he dropped to 266, and then ran a pedestrian-to-poor 4.85. yeah, the importance o' 40 times is overblown, but there is no question that the nfl is faster than the college game. 'course terrell suggs had a 4.84 40 time that scared many teams and saw him drop down to the #10 pick in 2003. his substandard 40 didn't hurt him too much in the nfl. however, there is just as many forgotten players who didn't stick in the league simple 'cause they didn't have the speed to make the transition to the nfl. there is also off-the-field issues with bosa. not worth getting into too much, but ezekiel elliott and bosa were roommates and is more than a few stories 'bout some o' the stuff they got into and away with at osu. however, the reason we were most surprised by the chargers pick is that one o' the few knocks on bosa is that he ain't a 3-4 fit. bosa is not an olb and he ain't a 3-4 de that played directly over the ot. bosa appears to be a single-gap edge rusher. the chargers either gonna need have bosa play olb, which is outside his skillset and will include a rather considerable learning curve (and perhaps additional lowering o' weight) or they makes him a two-gap de, which is gonna limit his pass rush efficacy and opportunities. weird, but interesting. get arguable best player in the draft is good, but the choice were... odd. HA! Good Fun! ps we couldn't help but feel sympathy for the ny giants on day 1. virtual every mock draft and expert prognostication had the giants taking either an ot or leonard floyd. stanley and conklin were off the board and tunsil's implosion resulted in reasonable wariness regarding the ole' miss product. heck, tunsil, during his post-draft presser for miami, threw his college team under the bus by admitting that he took money from coaches while in college. taylor decker were the next highest rated ot, but the osu o-lineman likely weren't worth a #10 pick. so, baring a trade down, the giants were thwarted insofar as filling their ot need. the giants Other linked prospect were leonard floyd. am admitting that the appreciation o' floyd were lost on us, but numerous teams reported wanted him, and the closer we got to draft day, the higher were floyd's rating. a more athletic aldon smith w/o being such a headcase? *shrug* chicago swung a deal to get floyd at #9. for the giants it likely seemed like the league were conspiring 'gainst them.

am not sure if you are being obtuse on purpose or for fun. again, Gromnir ain't the one who made the parallel 'tween gaider and sheakespeare. YOU are the guy who claimed that time should improve writing as time has improved special effects and tech aspects. at that point, Gromnir observed that using YOUR reasoning, Gromnir should be experiencing blissgasms when watching any movie, reading any book or playing any game as it has been 500 years since shakespeare's last play and your expected incremental improvement should result in divine writings from storytellers. we didn't make parallels. we contrast. is Gromnir who were observing that there has Not been general improvement in storytelling in a long time, and we wouldn't expect such improvement. duh. and recognizing that bg2 weren't some kinda masterpiece is hardly explaining your expectation for improvement. as shady has mentioned numerous times now, at some point in sod the writers began to railroad... which should be expected. the game fits in-between two completed stories and any number o' characters in sod has fixed histories that the beamdog writers got no choice but to accommodate as those characters exist in bg2. sod is a bg1 expansion, and the bg2ee already exists. the protagonist o' sod can't ride off into the sunset nor can he die a hero's death. we know where and how edwin, minsc, jaheira and a host o' other characters begin bg2, so is little room to make fundamental changes their stories. no sod character that already exists is gonna have any appreciable growth, 'cause they didn't have such growth at start o' bg2. the freedom o' the beamdog writers were significant limited. as we noted already, bg2 also had far more resources and we able to embrace larger and more diverse storylines. many o' those bg2 stories were little better than bg1. a FEW o' the bg2 stories and writing were fantastic. *chuckle* the bg2 bard stronghold were actual fantastic and is a terrible shame that so few folks got to experience. given the brevity o' the expansion, am doubting that the sod companions all got development on par with jaheira and keldorn. would be UNreasonable to expect similar development in a typical expansion. in a combat-heavy expansion 'tween bg1 and bg2 with a length o' ~25 hours, the beamdog writers were hamstrung, as expected. you are being obtuse on multiple levels. expect david and luke and mark from bg2 to make improvement incremental from game to game is understandable even if it ain't realistic. use special effects and technical improvements o' the franchise since 1998 to explain and validate your expectations is utter ridiculous, but yeah, Individual writers should improve aspects o' their craft over time. amber, liam and andrew did not write bg2. andrew got some graphic novel experience before coming to beamdog? saddle writers with limited resources and a defined scope and expect 'em to improve somebody else's well received bg2 characters and story is actual a daunting task. and the degree to which technical and gameplay aspects has been improved since 2000 is a pointless observation and hardly a rationale for expecting writing improvement. serious, you can't be as obtuse as you act. HA! Good Fun!

am thinking it is a good move for the broncos. according to numerous metrics, lynch were the best available qb in this draft. is a bad move only if the broncos actual start lynch this year. HA! Good Fun!

well, at least the cowboys learned from past mistakes and drafted a consummate team player with great character. http://phillyinfluencer.com/2016/03/some-not-so-good-rumors-about-ezekiel-elliotts-drug-habits-are-making-the-rounds-now/ etc. elliott is a very good rb, but rb were not a high need position for dallas. de or safety were obvious needs. am also wary o' another dallas addition with questionable character. fun draft though. not following predictions, and as we noted earlier in the thread, is hard to complete screw the p00ch this year as the first round grades is relative flat. short o' injuries and complete character busts, we thinks that as long as teams draft needs, they will do okie dokie. for example, chargers taking bosa were a surprise and they had greater needs than de, but most scouts were extreme high (no pun considering the mj rumors) on bosa. HA! Good Fun! ps bears pick were the first boom v. bust choice for us in this draft. tweener de/olb with questionable instincts and bad strength. he gots pass rusher measurables and took over a few sec big games, but he also got eliminated by average players and schemes. leonard floyd is a gamble and we think it is a coin toss as to whether he becomes a pro bowl pass rusher, or is outta the league in 4 years.

obstacles other than what we already referenced? we are talking 'bout an expansion of limited scope shoehorned in between two existing stories. golly, what obstacles could we be referencing? "I don't know about edgy, but it's accurate. Baldur's Gate was released in 1998, though. SoD is a 2016 game, so while chronologically it goes right before BG2, I would expect have liked the writing to be, I don't know, better than BG2?" and "So yeah, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect more experienced developers to improve on it. Arguably they have done so in the gameplay and tech aspects, so I don't see what's so esoteric about writing that BG2 simply cannot be topped in that regard. you brought up the ridiculous time aspect, not Gromnir. you made perplexing comparison 'tween writing and tech advancements. Gromnir ain't the one who compared gaider and ohlen to shakespeare. duh. you is the guy who expected improvement o' writing based on passage o' time. is Gromnir who observed that it is asinine to expect shakespeare quality from beamdog writers simple 'cause 500 years has elapsed. another swing and miss for #s. *shrug* who the hell expects superiority o' later incarnations o' story w/i a franchise, regardless o' time and resource limitations, and regardless o' the writers contributing? is very few examples wherein writing gets better for a franchise that has existed 15 or more years. battlestar galactica would be a good example, but then we would needs use such an example to refute those who is complaining 'bout writers making fundamental changes in an effort to stay relevant. HA! Good Fun!

but based on your expectations, why shouldn't we have julius caesar writing at this point? if elapsed time is a relevant factor and you see parallels 'tween special effects improvement and writing improvement, then why doesn't Gromnir get his blissgasm? have another 500 years go by and we expect folks will still be impressed with shakespeare. narrative quality depends on skills and imaginations o' the writer. there is no technical limits to imagination. has there been a fundamental improvement in the human species in 500 yearss... much less 16? written storytelling has not marked improved as a whole in hundreds o' years, but #s expects game writing to marked improve since 2000? why? individual writers can improve technical aspects o' their writing over time, though is actual rare that an author's greatest work is his final opus. is individual improvement. there has been no generational advancement in storytelling. so, the beamdog writerS, face new and more significant obstacles than bioware encountered w/o the benefit o' any kinda fundamental improvement in written storytelling for hundreds o' years and yet #s expected sod writing to be better than bg2 writing? 'cause technical aspects o' games has improved? 'cause... why? HA! Good Fun!

it's been more than 500 years since shakespeare's last play, so why is it that when Gromnir watches a play, sees a movie or plays a story-driven game, we ain't experiencing an hours long blissgasm o' pure epiphany? special effects and production values has improved since shakespeare. entertainment industries have had hundreds o' years to improve narrative and storytelling for chrissakes. HA! Good Fun!