Gromnir

agreed, but am dreading that the developers chose improve-through-use. HA! Good Fun! ps am also not a fan o' talent trees. trees got loads o' prerequisites built into them. prerequisites is bad if maximizing customization is a goal.

What can I tell you... I'm picky picky is good. Gromnir has been called a lit snob more than once. been called a snob... period. been called far, far worse. our snobbery, while unapologetic and obvious, confuses folks. after all, while we frequent proclaim the sorry state o' the fantasy/scifi genre(s), when asked to reveal examples o' the best such works, we tend to follow mr. frost's advice. yup, for the dyed-in-wool snob, our list o' fantasy greats is gonna include crowley's little, big and updike's the witches of eastwick. our condemnation o' the prose o' tolkien would make even harold bloom wince, though we will give tolkien's lotr a respectful nod as an exemplar o' deep and complete myth crafting. am thinking octavia butler's kindred is coarse, but readable in its own way. typical snob, eh? two roads diverged in a yellow wood, and sorry I could not travel both and be one traveler, long I stood and looked down one as far as I could to where it bent in the undergrowth; 'course we ain't done with our list after crowley and updike, gardner and carroll. nope, 'mongst our favorites is gaiman's stardust and the graveyard book. while his most mature novel is american gods, we do believe it is his least impressive book as the numerous plot strands confounded his storytelling efforts the deeper he got into his work. most impressive is gaiman writing when he writes for kids or when he writes w/o pretension-- include his graphic novels and neverwhere 'mongst the numerous stellar gaiman offerings. the aforementioned graveyard book is our favorite fantasy work written in the last decade. second best ain't even close. sure, is a coming o' age story, but after reading you ain't never gonna forget the dread manjacks and you will no doubt feel at least a moment's ridiculous regret that you never grew up 'mongst silent stones o' granite and marble. the phantom tollbooth and a swiftly tilting planet is gonna show up near the top o' a list by Gromnir o' the best fantasy ever written. is for children, but is not written to children. read those books as adults and you realize just how mature is the themes and how well-crafted is the prose. is good to be picky, eh? is good not to worry 'bout convention. as an aside, we heard that bbc were doing a tv show based 'pon jonathan strange & mr. norrell. sure, one needs endure the typical englishman's (woman in this case) preoccupation with early 19th century london and its environs. am not sure what it is 'bout ubiquitous dirt and endemic human misery that so charges the english imagination, but regardless, the children o' the britons see such a setting as inherent magical. *shrug* am not gonna claim that strange and norrell's portrayal o' magic is unique, but it is refreshing. is a worthy read, and assuming that the show develops a loyal following, you can be one o' the handful o' Americans who can lord it over your colleagues at the watercooler while they discuss the show while you is able to remark on the differences 'tween the book and the bbc offering. sneer as the literary manhood o' bob in hr shrivels in the presence o' your abject superiority. muwahaha! we kid. HA! Good Fun!

walter scott gots some fantastic stuff. rob roy and waverley is also enjoyable. if we are going beyond scifi and fantasy, then we would add dumas' works to the list. got the political infighting, that is for darn sure. as hard as it is to believe, dumas were actual more interesting than his novels, but one must needs keep in mind that authors such as dumas were paid by the word for their manuscripts. as such, there were a tendency to indulge in a considerable amount of dialogue padding for those involved in writing popular fiction. HA! Good Fun!

hmmm. we would say that gene wolfe's new sun and short sun is very much hero journey w/o too much political intrigue. that being said, is not typical hero journey 'cause they is actual done well. the short sun books, while not getting much attention as new sun, is our personal high water mark for wolfe as a writer o' novel length fiction. still, is very much hero journey stuff-- so too is knight and wizard. unfortunate, once again, wolfe in his wizard knight books is far more concerned with allegory, extended metaphor and personal character development than he is 'bout political infighting. am not disagreeing that wolfe is fantastic, but he is much a classical adherent o' the hero journey formula. david gemmell (particular the drenai series) is another fine writer o' fantasy, but hero journey is core. relative simple themes and well-developed characters. before game o' thrones became popular, gemmell were embracing a more grim notion o' fantasy, while seeming to take delight in killing off his protagonists. still, is much embracing hero journey... but so too is gd's tolkien books and kingkiller, so am actual not certain what he likes. if gd simple wants our notion o' good fantasy novels with an explanation 'bout why we like, we would provide a much longer list. nevertheless, if we gotta combine political intrigue, in a fantasy setting, w/o embracing hero journey and its trappings, then list gets much shorter. HA! Good Fun!

Sorry, but... what? am equal baffled. "If you take all the interviews with the developers and the rest of the content into account, together with the current trend to teach children about real life values via computer games, you'll see that the goblin ain't all that tongue-in-cheek." regardless, if the only way we can find writer sin is to follow developer interviews and imagine an overarching conspiracy 'mongst game designers to use bg-style games to enforce values for kiddies (HA!), then am feeling little difficulty in recognizing the tongue-in-cheek quality o' the goblin... and a host o' other sod transgressions. apparently gorth snipped somebody, which sounds painful... or perhaps obligatory if gorth is a mohel. regardless, we gotta be careful. nevertheless, w/o directing comments at anybody in particular, one wonders what is the threshold for out of place or inappropriate or immersion-breaking. bg went for the cheap laugh as often as any game we can recollect save for fallout 2. were multiple mechanics used to make sure that players were aware that the developers did not take the sword coast setting particular serious. the thing is, while few here is aware, there were much negative board feedback regarding bg levels o' camp, quirk and irreverence. obviously with the blair witch stuff and neb's head, the developers did not completely stop indulging their inner teen. even so, bioware scaled back the out of place encounters and dialogues when building bg2. 'course then the developers had to deal with players complaining 'bout the assault to their immersion via the bg2 npc contest winners as well as the numerous boardie cameos. can't help but feel a bit bad for the developers given how difficult it appears to be to judge that which is out of place. regardless, we can understand sod developer consternation regarding out of place, particularly if using bg as their guide. is the actual problem as junai explains? his view, which we disagree with, is nevertheless honest. am believing that he is indeed genuine affronted by the goblin, but only given the context o' developer interviews and a belief that beamdog and others is attempting to force an sjw agenda down his gullet. junai is being truthful 'bout why the goblin offends him personally. is not interactivity or some other such nonsense. the goblin is a symptom o' the disease, yes? a rash might be incredible minor-- a simple allergic reaction. might also be a symptom o' something life threatening. where Gromnir sees a rash, junai sees leukemia? a rash can be funny, but leukemia is unlikely to produce a hearty guffaw, eh? am thinking that junai is delusional, but he is being honest. simple advice for developers: avoid particular hot topic issues. doesn't seem that mechanics is the issue for folks like junai, so key is to avoid the wrong topics. 'course that has gotta be tough advice to take for folks who believe they got something worth saying. HA! Good Fun!

is fantasy essential? our personal and frequent shared opinion is that the vast majority o' scifi is not worthy o' distinction from fantasy. scifi and fantasy were convenient labels for the sellers o' pulp magazines and books back in the mid 20th century, but is no meaningful distinction... with admitted few exceptions. true speculative fiction is kinda rare and am not certain it requires a unique genre label even so. sure, asimov, kim stanley robinson, arthur c. clarke, and a handful o' others is genuine predicting the impact o' future technologies on human culture, but for the most part, scifi is ray guns, spaceships and aliens... aliens who is fundamental human in terms o' motives and behaviors in spite o' their differing physical appearance. star wars, for example, is fantasy regardless o' the presence o' space travel, yes? reason we ask is 'cause even when scifi is being little more than fantasy, it tends towards the stuff that interests gd. still gotta be careful. dune, which gd has likely read, has got loads o' political intrigue, and the series don't begin to suck something terrible until midway through the third book. even so, paul atreides is clear a hero's journey protagonist, so perhaps it ain't what you is desiring. if scifi is viable, you might have more options. the moon is a harsh mistress isn't quite as romantic 'bout its subject matter as the fantasy novels you mentioned, but perhaps you find something interesting. alfred bester's demolished man is not a series, but also read the stars my destination for the invention o' what would eventual become known as cyberpunk. asimov's robot series starts as quasi mystery novels and ends with your star spanning political intrigue. begin with caves of steel. ursula k. leguin's left hand of darkness? is newer material as well. for fantasy. *shrug* is not particular profound writing, but as a change o' pace, you might consider matthew woodring stover's caine books. again, not fantastic writing, but Gromnir gots criticisms on that point regarding rothfuss and his mary stu protagonist, and we never liked a majority o' tolkien. the caine books is set similar to bester's but also is fantasy... and the hero ain't. even if ain't great writing, is a change o' pace and seeming gots elements you want. HA! Good Fun!

our friend and former neighbor, after 7 years in the nfl and a pro bowl appearance, went broke a few years ago. wish he woulda' talked to us. tax evasion. probation. is not like he were a 7th round draft pick neither--top 50. can't imagine how difficult it must be to try and convince the average nfl player, a guy who on average will be in the league less than 4 full years, is unlikely to ever get rich. cte scares us. got moments when we is ashamed that we is still a nfl fan. those moments increase every year. is more than a couple helmet technologies that look promising. am particular interested in helmets that is made to be broken. regardless, something needs to be done and sooner rather than later.

aluminiutrioxid summarized your points. thanks for him. lord knows why you were so impotent. can't blame aluminiutrioxid for your shortcomings. is not his argument. unfortunately, as we noted already, the summary of points didn't actual address our question(s). we have attempted numerous times to clarify, but you are in pee-wee mode. and as to you trying to get back on topic, sod IS the topic. you claim "out of place" for goblin while ignoring the long and storied history o' outta place for bg. hp wants to change topics 'cause this one is uncomfortable? HA! hp has been running away from the question you posed to hurlshot. kinda amusing actually. is only off-topic when your responses is off-topic. weren't off-topic when we responded to aluminiutrioxid, but your post immediate preceding our post is indeed off-topic, as is ours. like links and quotes? http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/85798-baldurs-gate-siege-of-dragonspear-released/?p=1806059 http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/85798-baldurs-gate-siege-of-dragonspear-released/?p=1806064 http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/85798-baldurs-gate-siege-of-dragonspear-released/?p=1806066 http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/85798-baldurs-gate-siege-of-dragonspear-released/?p=1806069 etc. is all off-topic. so, try not to be too hypocritical. want back on-topic? simple: 1) answer the question Gromnir posed 2) stop if you can't do either, then you got nobody to blame but yourself. Gromnir is the one trying to get on-topic... your recent sod topic as a matter o' fact. HA! Good Fun!

kadir beneath mo moteh can't have a useful discussion with a guy who won't respond other than to claim he already responded or that Gromnir don't comprehend. channeling your inner pee-wee? ah well, can't claim we didn't try. HA! Good Fun!

and am not posting just to cheese off guard dog. HA! Good Fun!

we lived a couple doors down from a guy who played dl in the nfl for seven years... he even went to the pro bowl one year. am feeling cheated by fate. HA! Good Fun!

we did quote. that is what started all this. poor memory and poor reading comprehension. So would you agree it's out of place? so, honestly, what is it that rises to unacceptable "out of place" for hp? we cannot tell from you or aluminum's attempted summary. as we observed, alora and khalid's curious bg catchphrases were ejaculants that did not depend on player interaction.... not that you give any actual reasoning why lack o' interaction would intensify the degree to which a response is out of place. alora will spout her song lyrics at the most curious moments. get blown up by a fireball trap? walk through a door. die fighting wyverns. is pure crapshoot for some o' the peculiar bg catchphrases. alora is just one o' the companions to do so. companion interjection o' porky pig and major alan "Dutch" schaefer random and repetitive and irrespective of player actions were not an endemic issue in bg? gosh. 4th wall is referenced many times. is fourth wall violations integral to "out of place?" seems doubtful. Al suggests that hp is not finding 4th wall violations to be fundamental out of place. repetition appears to be an enhancer o' out o' place? okie dokie. we got loads o' repetition in the bg examples we already provided. so, if elora quoting the youngbloods song til we begin to imagine strangling chet powers is not out of place, but the goblin joke is, we need explanations. aluminum references immersion breaking. is not his fault for doing so as he is trying to explain your concerns. regardless, as we should all know by now, immersion is just 'bout the most subjective gaming concept discussed on these boards, which is why it is typical subject to developer derision. "immersion" in and of itself is a thoroughly pointless concept. is "out of place" shorthand for immersion breaking? that would largely explain why hp is avoiding responding. dunno. stuff such as the chelsey crusher is not repetitive in and o' themselves, but such an observation clear misses the point. the degree to which pop culture references is injected into bg is resulting in a high degree o' frequency. can't look at the chelsey crusher in a vacuum and be fair. is chelsey crusher and peter north and xvar quoting oppenheimer, who were quoting bhagavad gita, chapter 11, verses 31-33. etc. again, and serious, explain "out of place." we know that you think that goblin comments is out of place. the problem is you actual never has explained "out of place." which is why we go in circles. if the goblin jokes is out of place for the reasons shared by aluminum, then so to is a legion o' bg examples. and still no genuine response from hp. we did quote hp, which is how this ridiculous bit o' silliness got started. we quoted you. if you believe you actual has answered, link. "my posts from page 17" *chuckle* our quote were from page 17. HA! Good Fun!

If I understood him clearly, it went something like this: stuff Would this be a fair assessment of the point you were making, HP? no, no, no. you must needs quote hp, but careful o' selective quoting 'cause hp is kinda confused 'bout "selective quoting." also, if one points out that your interpretation doesn't actual answer Gromnir queries, then hp will, we assume, criticize your lack o' reading comprehension and Gromnir's. highly repetitive were the spontaneous companion ejaculations o' alora and khalid from bg. such stuff were frequent ill-timed in bg, and as so few catchphrases were available, we got them ad nauseum. immersion-breaking (*chuckle*) resulting from repetitiveness or poor timing is gonna find the writers o' bg to be the most terrible o' sinners. a tongue-in-cheek goblin playing the race card sounds kinda amusing, but gauging the degree to which such is out-of-place compared to star trek references, porky pig quotes and pr0n star rangers extolling the grandness o' their wood strikes us as an extreme difficult task. am not actual certain what hp would say that could legit distinguish his difficulties with sod from similar applicable bg offerings. regardless, is not up to you or Gromnir to guess. we are far less able to accurate divine hp's meaning than is hp, yes? so why does he not respond? and how can we quote the absence o' an argument? we do not believe hp addressed, so how can we possible quote? duh. "" done? is hp's argument. he is the one that gotta explain. again, duh. believe that you made an argument that explains how to distinguish does not make it so. HA! Good Fun!

*groan* So you don't have a problem with my earlier posts from the previous page? *chuckle* Of course you responded to my later posts which you have taken issue with. *snort* Hiro if you cant provide the link then you are lying and your position is unclear and disingenuous am not sure why hp thinks that his mouse-over and 4th wall observations on the previous page is sufficient, 'cause as we already stated, we see little else from a cursory exam... but is no point in Gromnir arguing for hp, is there? hp should be making an argument for hp. lord knows why hp would want another poster explaining hp arguments for hp. idiotic way to make a point. the whole situation is utter ridiculous. never met somebody so averse to explaining or simple linking. is not as if Gromnir and hp has been having the same debate for multiple pages and hp is exhausted by repeating self to us. *chuckle* it should be clear from his last series o' responses that hp don't mind spam and repetition. 4th wall breaking mouseover observations is unresponsive, and they is conclusory. wholly inadequate given our request. "please, give us your reasoning rather than your conclusion. why exact is a tongue-in-cheek goblin opine 'bout racism more out-of-place in a story set within the sword coast o' the forgotten realms than is peter of the north, a woodsman who "knows how to handle himself," lecturing us 'bout wood and subterranean trees?" HA! Good Fun!

the beast at tanagra. hp at the court, the court of silence. shaka, when the wall fell. am closer to understanding manifested. HA! Good Fun!

? responding to you is giving us freaking brain freeze. respond or link to the appropriate response(s). is not hard. is only difficult if such doesn't exist. HA! Good Fun!

... so, you don't want us to selective quote, but you want us to find your argument rather than providing? HA! am not gonna argue for you. am not gonna try and imagine a real explanation for you. if you believe you responded to our query, then link... or don't. don't would seem better in the absence o' anything to link. this is getting ridiculous. HA! Good Fun!

link or don't. am not gonna read every one o' your posts looking for an answer... if one actual exists. your mouse response observations? that can't be it as such is non analogous, and is hardly providing any kinda rationale. is another conclusion w/o reasoning. you know where you believe the answer to be, so link, or don't. HA! Good Fun!

talk 'bout poor reading comprehension. "please, give us your reasoning rather than your conclusion. why exact is a tongue-in-cheek goblin opine 'bout racism more out of place in a story set within the sword coast o' the forgotten realms than is peter of the north, a woodsman who "knows how to handle himself," lecturing us 'bout wood and subterranean trees?" again, why is the one more offensive than the other? you explained your belief in the inappropriateness o' the goblin's opine, but why is such somehow worse than peter's bg wood handling? what is your reasoning? simple identify that one is a violation o' the 4th wall *snort* is hardly perspicacious or enlightening. is conclusory at best. so, am gonna give you another shot, now that we helped you with the simple task o' reading, to enlighten us with the root and cause o' your discrimination. HA! Good Fun!

obtuse is the kinda discrimination hp utilizes. please, give us your reasoning rather than your conclusion. why exact is a tongue-in-cheek goblin opine 'bout racism more out of place in a story set within the sword coast o' the forgotten realms than is peter of the north, a woodsman who "knows how to handle himself," lecturing us 'bout wood and subterranean trees? HA! Good Fun!

So would you agree it's out of place? in a bg game? "Heavy Halberd: The Chesley Crusher "First wielded by the much-maligned Ensign Chesley of the first exploratory fleet of Waterdeep, this famous halberd has been passed around for generations, but only to those strong enough to carry its considerable weight. The iron haft of this heavy polearm makes the weapon slow and unwieldy, but its sheer mass smashes skulls and shatters limbs." alora lines: "C'mon, people, now, smile on your brother. Everybody get together, try to love one another right now." "I don't think you're happy enough! I'll teach you to be happy! "Happy happy joy joy, happy happy joy joy!" too young for that one? khalid line: "Th-th-th-that's all, f-folks!" larry, daryl & daryl etc. HA! Good Fun!

we liked dredd, but the titular character works much better in comic books than he does in film. have an actor do dredd for +90 minutes? can't be easy. is a kewl character, but if you want character development in a dredd movie/show, it is gonna need come from the villains and from other judges. perhaps make a dredd kinda like the 1982 conan? arnold got a couple o' unforgettable scenes in conan, but his job were to be tough for +90 minutes... let james earl jones, max von sydow and even mako do the heavy lifting. am knowing it sounds odd, but am thinking you need to take considerable focus off of dredd to make a dredd show or movie work. dredd is more a function o' setting than actual character. he... is. as to the budget, we didn't mind dredd's dirty, ultraviolent, dystopia filmed almost entirely within a single grimy urban housing development. kinda reminded us o' the raid: redemption. HA! Good Fun!

we can't do that for tv shows... which is kinda funny when you consider how many "disappointment-watching" seasons o' white sox, blackhawks, bears, bulls and notre dame football and basketball that Gromnir has endured over the years. is particular amusing in regards to the white sox as we gave up on MLB after the strike year and then white sox actual improved and eventual won a world series. but for tv shows we gots near zero patience for disappointment. heck, we stopped watching snl in 1995. replace phil hartman with chris elliott? no... just, no. ain't been a regular viewer o' snl since 1995. HA! Good Fun!

am getting the distinct impression that manifested liked the most recent star wars offering. HA! Good Fun!

undrafted free agents http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/4/30/11545610/undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker-2016-nfl-draft-udfas with the draft being only seven rounds nowadays, there is always ufa that stick with teams. HA! Good Fun!