Gromnir

... am kinda old, but isn't it customary nowadays to use an emoji or "rofl" or similar to denote sarcasm? HA! Good Fun!

is a funny enough joke, particular in full with the "Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvin John Kenneth Lloyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor William Xerxes Yancy Zeus" one assumes he went by hubert blaine 'stead o' adolph blaine 'cause o' the whole adolf taint... which in itself is kinda amusing. that is the part o' the name you alter? HA! Good Fun!

weren't you talking 'bout case papers before... y'know, the "cellulose?" stuff with the ink on it? *snort* somehow by looking at the case papers (presumable stuff other than the mueller report as otherwise your observation would be complete pointless) a lawyer would have a change o' heart and balk at going before a judge with a charging document. what on earth do you think were the purpose o' the report? the report were the basis for barr and rosenstein's determinations. +400 of your case papers. didn't have barr or rosenstein complain 'bout insufficiency o' mueller's case papers, eh? you don't know enough to know how little you know... you know? *chuckle* would only need ask one knowledgeable attorney in poland? puts you in quite a pickle as over 1000 experts on US fed crim law and procedure has expressed their opinion... but we are going in circles. buzz. talk 'bout trying to spin. but try and stay focused. you were dismissive o' +1000 former prosecutors. for what should be obvious reasons, you can't get opinions from current fed prosecutors regarding the mueller report. "former," btw, don't mean they is no longer practicing. heck, a few is teaching at prestigious law schools, which also don't preclude an attorney from practicing. news to sharp? likely. more than a few o' the +1000 is now state prosecutors as 'posed to fed. etc. and any one o' those guys could tell sharp what is requirements for a charging document rather than nonsensical observations 'bout the case papers. HA! while we know you wanna evade, the issue were you dismissing the opinion o' +1000 former fed prosecutors who read the same report as barr and rosenstein. heck, would be similar foolish to harken to all those experts declaring bumblebees were incapable o' flight, yes? "They sound like every retired militaryman who "would win every war" and retired policemen who "would solve every crime" etc. if only they were younger." and yeah, you can't even identify the multitude o' retired military men on this board who would win every war. regardless, you don't know enough to discuss w/o the benefit o' expert help. https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement-by-former-federal-prosecutors-8ab7691c2aa1 1025 who is willing to help you keep from making more laughable mistakes. HA! Good Fun! ps add something new. have gone past point where all we is doing is repeating, and you evade.

only if spoken aloud, three times in succession, and w/o any mistakes. still need some kinda sacrifice though. sounds german...ish. add in the adorable dachshund sacrifice requirement and am guessing we would all be safe from even intentional attempts to summon y'ha-nthlei. HA! Good Fun!

yeah, the threats o' violence is indefensible. we noted earlier-- "the newish militia threat? now that deserves a horse whipping. if a minority group can't get honest input and consideration because the democratic process is rigged, am in favor o' creative means o' protest and resistance, but thin veiled threats o' violence is 'bout as blunt and uncreative as is possible to imagine. 'course those threats came after your post so am not giving you the benefit o' the doubt on those. nevertheless, we would agree that the minority senators should public condemn the militia threats in no uncertain terms." 'course you do realize stuff in quotes means you believe we said such, yes? find "working as intended," from Gromnir regarding oregon senators. will wait. ... *jeopardy music plays* ... no? we actual said equivalent o' opposite, so is easy to see how gifted would be confused. perhaps you did a trump air quotes reversal? in any event, situation is 180 from working as intended. worse, is stoopid and utter avoidable. no excuses. horse whipping frenzy? nope. situation is hardly unique and the senators playing hooky isn't alone as responsible parties deserving chastisement. thanks to excessive gerrymandering by both parties, we got states and districts which is so polarized it is now possible to levy a targeted tax which affects those who didn't vote for the majority. is so the opposite o' working as intended that politicians is resorting to extreme measures to resist. in a pure democracy, the minority gotta swallow whatever bitter pill the majority forces 'pon 'em. thankful the US ain't that kinda republic. use quorum rules to avoid tyranny o' majority? given current political climate, gifted shouldn't be shocked by this and is not historical new. oh, and seeing how gifted is equal frenzied when senators showup and pass legislation, is tough to work up any kinda sympathy for poor, frazzled gifted. "politics gonna politic," right? HA! Good Fun!

as usual, when it comes to irradiated creatures, the japanese are ahead o' the curve. HA! Good Fun!

isn't panic worthy, but it is dangerous for democracy. quorum busting has a fair bit o' history in US politics. the tyranny of the majority has always been a problem in democracies. am knowing it is difficult to sympathize with what appears to be a bunch o' republicans fighting climate change legislation (a gross oversimplification) but keep in mind this sorta action is typical the last resort o' the minority group. looks different when is the seeming only option for the black caucus in deep south states post civil war, eh? US Constitution's Bill of Rights were penned as a check on democracy, but there is few practical limits on democracy, particular at state and local levels. founders were afeared o' quorum busting and is referenced in legislative history as well as federalist papers-- they were aware, and they instituted no great limits on quorum busting save the democratic process itself. US politics has become so polarized and intransigent, am suspecting you are gonna see this kinda thing more often. if democrats in a red state walk out to prevent a vote which would criminalize abortions, will be little surprise from us. yeah, quorum rules will be changed... democratically. the senators hiding? well, they can be voted out o' office. even so, quorum busting is dangerous for democracy. other than the Bill of Rights and a few other amendments, isn't too much to challenge the tyranny of the majority. HA! Good Fun!

hmmm. for some reason am feeling embarrassed. aw, what the hell... will indulge our inner cliff clavin. a group o' pigs is a sounder, but a group o' bears is a sloth. always thought that were odd. HA! Good Fun!

damn. beat us to it. in any event, sharp ain't being too sharp by using worst possible example support his conclusion. am glad he focused on every 'cause it means he realizes his former military folks and cops ain't "every." so who are they? sharp points to imagined folks at a bar or on internet message boards to counter? uses worst possible example o' experts being wrong to defend proposition? now don't get us wrong. as we said, is not good logic or good sense to be over reliant on experts. one expert might be right while the multitude is wrong. rely on experts, particular using number o' experts to support, can be dangerous. even so, keep in mind that with the initial point we aren't even referencing objective science. talking 'bout something inherent subjective-- would any prosecutor charge? this is a cost 'n benefit analysis weighed out based on objective and subjective factors. is no strict formula. ask a multitude o' former prosecutors whether or not they would charge? +1000 says yes, and they has public attached name to memorialize such a position. Gromnir, btw, has just over a year experience as a fed prosecutor, so we coulda' added name to the list...but we didn't. why? in spite o' technical being a former fed prosecutor, we don't consider our self an expert on such matters and would be misleading to add name. am hardly gonna be unique in this regard. one suspects the clowns talking their arse off in a bar or message board site is unlikely to attach name to the kinda public list we see. so, sharp goes into his alternate reality bar or internet message board where all the retired corporals who think they is alexander hang out. he finds a former fed prosecutor and shows the guy ~200 pages o' AG office fact finding which suggests sharp could be charged with _______. sharp asks the prosecutor should he be worried... could he be charged with a crime and should he get a lawyer? sharp repeats question to fed prosecutors over and over. is broad range o' expertise 'mongst people he asks, from relative untested to folks who were considered best prosecutor in their respective office for decades. eventual he gets more than a thousand fed experts to commit to the notion sharp could be charged. would sharp be worried? no doubt 'mongst the multitude who says "charge," some would say sharp got nothing to worry 'bout. 'course is noteworthy we ain't seen such a competing list, eh? nevertheless, how many nays would it take to make sharp sleep better at night? again, keep in mind the, you are skrewed with the sharp end o' a rusty knife list includes men and women considered premiere experts on the subject. 1? 10? 100? 1000? 2000? 10000? as an aside, am at a loss trying to identify even a single former military guy on this board who genuine believes he could win every war. not one. if you can't even get us the bumblebee guy... ... gd might be a cheat option 'cause am suspecting he would tell us that avoid fighting any foreign war is key to real victory. HA! Good Fun! ps we didn't respond to your "case papers" silliness 'cause you did a fantastic job illuminating your own ignorance. thanks.

that doesn't sound like most o' the retired military personnel who frequent this board, or most o' the military folks in our family. oh sure, is probable a couple would-be hannibals on these boards, but "every?" hmmm. sharp must know a different breed. am admitting we don't know many retired cops. know lots o' current cops and have only ever met one guy who seemed to think o' himself as soopercop. hard to imagine that when they retire, they sudden will become sages o' all things police procedure. most cops we know lament that so many crimes is destined to go unsolved and unpunished. rely on experts is not great logic, but is reasonable. get a thousand former prosecutors to commit to any position is noteworthy. scotch v. bourbon? maybe. might be only other thing you could find a thousand lawyers care 'bout enough to commit to an answer. the thing is, the fed prosecution success rate is extreme high. is something approaching 90%... or better. these folks is used to winning and that is in part 'cause they know how to pick their horses. and am not sure what "case papers" you is talking 'bout. am pretty sure you don't know what you is talking 'bout. volume 2 o' the mueller report is 182 pages and volume 2 is largely unredacted. fraking dream scenario for any prosecutor to have a bob mueller team o' all-stars do all the grunt work so they can slap together a formal charging document? to not give any special weight to the opinion o' +1000 prosecutors strikes us as bordering on obtuse. +1000, the number, don't make 'em right, and we would caution against blind acceptance in supplanting your ignorance with their numbers. nevertheless, to be dismissive o' such a number o' former prosecutors is even more perplexing than would be blind faith. so, where you stand on holocaust denial? human impact on climate is a myth? 85 bears as the all-time best nfl defense? HA! Good Fun! ps in our experience, the consensus 'mongst litigators appears to be bourbon. am not a drinker our self, so no vote.

fisa is complete immaterial to mueller testimony. whether fisa were valid doesn't change what mueller discovered. if criminal charges were being pursued, then fisa validity would be meaningful as there is fruit o' the poisonous tree doctrine with which to contend. ain't relevant to Congressional investigations or even possible impeachment. am expecting mueller and others will point out quick how fisa is irrelevant as to Congressional determination o' conspiracy and obstruction. and portray as a waste o' time has hinged on repeated mantra o' "No Collusion, No Obstruction." is gonna be difficult for republicans to tell mueller he found no collusion and no obstruction w/o looking silly for the cameras. am actual most curious 'bout how mueller deals with the inevitable william barr questions. mueller might need work hard to keep from throwing barr under the bus. pretty much everybody on both committees is a lawyer, but is only a couple ex-prosecutors. perhaps ironic, but intelligence might have better lawyers than judiciary, albeit with fewer numbers. indulging morbid curiosity, am looking forward to hearing gaetz questions for mueller. the guy is a carnival barker in a button-down shirt. kinda the exact opposite o' mueller. HA! Good Fun! ps we did say we would update when the number passed 1000, but am admitting we didn't check for awhile. https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement-by-former-federal-prosecutors-8ab7691c2aa1 1025 former fed prosecutors says but for trump being President, obstruction charges woulda' been pursued. kinda funny as reason we checked the numbers is 'cause this eve we saw an interview with lindsey graham on fox. "Graham said regardless of Mueller's testimony, it would be hard to prosecute Trump for obstruction of justice. ""There's nobody on Earth who could bring an obstruction case based on these facts," he said." +1000 former fed prosecutors disagree.

andrei, you are whining 'bout another group o' senators? more significant, Mueller to testify publicly on July 17 following a subpoena am thinking many people will be disappointed. mueller specific noted he believes he cannot consider obstruction. am not believing mueller will say anything which risks trump's chance for a fair trial. as trump cannot be prosecuted at this time, mueller is not gonna be able to say much more than has already been said. as to "collusion," which, once again, were Never considered by the special counsel, am thinking mueller testimony may prove enlightening IF democrats allow mueller to speak. as with comey being grilled by senators 'bout clinton emails, am predicting the Congressmen get distracted in their attempts to force mueller to declare trump actions criminal. democrats will lose a real opportunity to get useful information 'bout the degree o' russian-trump entanglement displayed in a public setting w/o barr or media editorializing. should also be gruesome public with details as the lengths the trump campaign went to avoid answering questions 'bout conspiracy... and the flat-out lies the campaign indulged to make the special counsel's job more difficult. mueller couldn't find legal sufficient conspiracy, but he stated such a conclusion were materially affected by trump organization lies and evasions. need Congressman questioning mueller to be smarter than were republicans when questioning comey if we are to get anything useful. worse odds than vegas. HA! Good Fun!

is less 'bout acres than is 'bout population, though no doubt geography (as 'posed to raw acreage) plays a significant role. as silly as it sounds, we can't help but recall the original red dawn movie. in the movie, the US stopped the invading cubans and russians at the rockies. likely got that right. apennine mountains were nightmarish in ww2. high country in vietnam were no better. a large % o' iran is mountainous. even so... win a war with iran, if you could somehow keep localized to iran, is one thing. keep peace and make victory anything other than another kinda loss will take many troops. nobody wanted to listen to honest estimates pre-iraq regarding projected peacekeeping numbers. in contemplating post-war iraq, there were a shared fantasy that the liberated people would police themselves after the real shooting war ended. iran post-war scenario is far more bleak from a peacekeeping perspective than were iraq not least 'cause iran is more than 3x the population o' iraq during previous conflict. sure, popularity o' government in iran is low, but they hate americans even more. aren't gonna be able to sell liberation to the iranians when you had a hard time doing so in iraq. unfortunate, there is always a few ted cruz types hanging 'round. one suspects ted is a kindred spirit with john bolton. HA! Good Fun!

... THAT was our point. welcome to the thread. HA! Good Fun!

so what? doesn't specific translate to anything in polish. it does translate exact as sharp one. take with other factors... so, you wanna buy a watch? none of which is relevant to the thread. Trump warns Iran of ‘overwhelming force’ in the event of an attack on ‘anything American’ sadly, the drones likely have chinese parts, so chances are they don't count. heck, trump didn't even believe obama were properly american enough for Presidency. HA! Good Fun! ps would it even count as a doppelganger if he were so obvious as to have used polish translation for sharp one? that would simple be an overt fu to the mods, no?

fair enough, but am suspicious you knew the gender o' his secretary before we made our comment. speaking o' suspicious, as to the likelihood o' a poster who is polish and showed up short time after sharp one disappeared and is using same posting style and opinions as disappeared sharp one (save for overt racism and misogyny... excepting for some sketchy bits in "funny" thread) and whose name literally translates as sharp one being a coincidental doppelganger... have always wondered who is the people who buy those $30 rolexes being hawked on nyc street corners. however, when we says "sharp," am referencing the sharp sabre in all sharp's posts. heck, am suspecting even if the sword were removed, we would have difficulty forgetting. has had profound impact on us. very sharp. in our heart am gonna forever link the poster with his very sharp sword. HA! Good Fun!

miss the "point." good one. very sharp. the secretary, whom in your sexist way you assumed were a woman, doesn't have the options buffet does. buffet's secretary is unlikely to be able to start a foundation and funnel earnings into it. can't use company planes and cars at will. from a practical pov, the secretary can't shelter funds same as does buffet. get earnings below $19500? first thing he (gender neutral) would need do is quit being a secretary... which would invalidate the comparison. am betting buffet pays his secretary much better than $19500. your point is perhaps less sharp than you believe. HA! Good Fun! ps russia's infrastructure programmes has numerous fails in the first year, and is numerous issues in remaining projects. the sakhalin rail project is dead and moscow train to kazan is also a non-starter. typical russian cronyism will gut most o' the projects o' usefulness even if they do live past drawingboard stages. growth continues to be projected less than 3%, which is effective a negative particular in light o' pain endured so recent and fact crude is current in russia's target range.

no. we insisted that russia wouldn't be able to laugh off sanctions as you suggested. those currency reserves you pointed to got hit hard and russia even had to enact austerity measures targeting pensions. in addition to vulnerability to oil values, which will remain a problem for russia until they change their economy, we noted that such a precarious situation made 'em particular susceptible to sanctions... which were the exact point o' the bloomberg graphic you still don't seem to grasp. drop in oil, in spite o' similar % o' total exports for norway and russia, hit russia much harder. sanctions are particular painful for a moribund economy, but you reimagine whichever way makes you feel better. and no, they really hasn't made changes, which is why every time crude changes values from unexpected events. russian growth projections dramatic change too. HA! Good Fun!

am not seeing sharp's confusion. buffet is being taxed at a lower rate than his secretary because he earns less. "The letter pointed out that fellow billionaire Warren Buffett has said he is taxed at a lower rate than his secretary. " he is taxed at a lower rate precise because, as ridiculous as it seems, he doesn't earn as much as his secretary. HA! Good Fun!

she appears to be a well-fed sow... not that there is anything wrong with that. HA! Good Fun!

tax rate is based on income earned. the more you make, the higher the rate o' taxation. is not complex. seven brackets. on first ~$19500 (maybe a scooch more... am not positive) buffet earns, he pays 10%. at other end, on amounts over $600,001, he pays 37%. buffet pays self $1. outside capital gains considerations, this puts him in the lowest tax bracket. stuff you own is not income. can have a dozen houses and a "company" jet and all kinda other stuff which is not gonna affect tax bracket. you don't pay taxes on own or worth. pay taxes on earned. and as for gifted twisting, we would typical guess he were shooting for ironic with observations o' combativeness and working self into a frenzy. not the case, eh? nevertheless, at least try to keep on-topic. don't want the embarrassment o' you getting another mod warning. back on-topic, am offering clarification-- our observation that misplaced admiration and concerns 'bout china do, japanese efficiency and russian moribund economic model is opposite o' gifted whine 'bout a handful o' state senators playing hookie so as to prevent a vote they know they cannot win. is our observation o' "meh" v. "Every one of those senators should be immediately stripped of their duties and permanently barred from holding office again." which is the whine? personal, we cannot work self up into that kinda frenzy o'er a few state senators or the myth o' japanese efficiency, but knock yourself out. just be careful not to go all sideways (again) and get the thread unnecessary mod attention. messy. HA! Good Fun! ps in case sharp saw too quick before edit, we posted numbers for single taxpayers as 'posed to married. corrected.

and here we thought this all started with gifted whining 'bout a few senators in oregon. lord knows Gromnir ain't whining 'bout three countries. we has suggested there is less reason to be concerned or impressed by three countries with which gifted seems preoccupied... which is kinda the opposite o' what you suggest. but heck, am a people person and am gonna keep trying to help gifted reach daylight. you hang in there and we will eventual make it. HA! Good Fun!

don't know if it would look like your clip, but am confident that if it did, you would qq and squee yourself in response... though am pretty sure you use squee wrong most o' the time. dunno, am not a teenage girl. in any event, is not as if those so-called victims can't find a couple o' shovels. people should be digging themselves out 'stead o' screaming like a bunch o' idiots. the chinese would have rebuilt already, and added a functioning space elevator as well. sink into the ocean? heck, that is what life jackets are for, right? HA! Good Fun!

like most executives, buffet pays himself next to nothing in income. capital gains is where government makes money from buffet in the form o' taxes. have the secretary earn $1 for 2019 might not be the solution sharp thinks it is. ps @gifted the russian economy has been sunk for years, which is why any fluctuation in oil prices causes such distress. one o' your fellow posters helpful submitted a bloomberg chart a few years ago which showed worst performing currencies, with russia the absolute worst for year _______. worse than sub saharan african nations with triple digit inflation fighting wars. in the chart, norway were used as a comparison for russia. both russia and norway is highly dependent on oil exports, but norway currency were nowhere near as devastated by oil surplus. russian collapses happen, but they ain't a manufacturer or service provider-- they export petroleum. their economy can "recover" as long as they got oil, but that isn't a strength. in spite o' fact that russia suffered two oil-related upheavals in one decade, resulting in double digit % increase o' russians living in poverty, russia has made almost no changes to economy and infrastructure. regardless, gifted is clear impressed with the shiny. likes busy and inefficient japanese... sees results where japanese themselves lament lack o' results. likes chinese do, resulting in per capita gdp behind kazakhstan and on par with mexico to go along with suppression o' dissent and religious minorities and ignoring o' aids problems and... HA! Good Fun!

apologies for double-post. you likely don't want to listen to the whole thing. the name o' the guy with the bow tie is atsushi wallace tashima. born in 1934, he were interred at the poston camp in arizona during ww2. eventual he would join the marines attaining rank of sergeant before his honorable discharge. ucla undergrad and harvard law. ... kinda felt like hans gruber for a moment. anyways, we can't even try and imagine arguing that soap, toothbrushes and conditions conducive for sleep were not anticipated as part o' "safe and sanitary" language from the flores settlement which is controlling what is required o' the US government insofar as immigration detention standards for minors. to do so in front o' a guy who were interred at poston is kinda surreal. however, before people get too angry at barr and trump, ms. fabian, the lawyer for doj in our clips, argued another flores case three years ago and it were even more disturbing. a woman who were trying to instigate a hunger strike in protest o' conditions at a detainment facility had her child seperated from her and the child placed in solitary confinement. fabian tried to argue such treatment were perfect acceptable under the flores settlement. separate and isolate child were a legit response to insurrection by the mother o' the child. 2015 were obama administration, and while there were not a general policy o' child separations in spite o' trump claims, clearly it did happen in more than a couple instances. we will note how the government were kinda in a legal bind on this soap and toothbrush thing... though am not using as an excuse. a judge recent ordered customs and border protection to appoint a monitor who would see to it that facilities where children were being detained were brought into compliance with the flores settlement. judge added specifics for the monitor, requiring children be having access to sleep, soap and toothbrushes. the thing is, appointment o' a monitor under an existing agreement ain't subject to appeal. so the government were trying to argue that as the judge included specifics needed to meet "safe and sanitary" under the flores settlement, she changed the agreement. *shrug* is the kinda legal ack jassery which makes us sympathize with gd's invoking o' the "kill all the lawyers" bit. HA! Good Fun!