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am more than a little uncomfortable with having trump be identified with moses, stripped o' his worldly possessions and honors and driven into the desert to rule serpent and scorpion. heck, am not thinking trump deserves to be favorable compared to charlie heston. HA! Good Fun! ps am ok with the driven into the desert part, but am suspecting all that entails is an extended vacation in dubai.

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am curious. which constitutionalist is you referencing? careful, 'cause am recalling your curious stance regarding hk violence compared to your blanket attribution o' such to blm protests. you admitted that the reason you saw blm protests as bad while accepting hk were precisely 'cause o' the motivations o' the blm protesters. meanwhile, am recalling many who pointed out that those involved in violence related to blm protests were not deserving sympathy and should be prosecuted; a position wholly consistent with the condemnation o' Capitol rioters. we got the receipts. do you? you gonna resort to a trumpy, "everybody knows," or are you gonna pony up some proof for a change? HA! Good Fun!

the conversation with debbie lee, grade twelve, is potential gonna be rough. can't imagine it gets easier with mr and/mrs. lee... or any combination or absences o' misters and madams you care to imagine. no matter how you deliver your speech, the student or parent(s) is gonna hear you telling 'em that after more than a decade o' education, their daughter doesn't have what it takes to succeed at a college. same students and parents has been told ad nauseum how important is education, and now a high school guidance counselor or teacher is explaining that debbie should consider working for ups or perhaps attending the hvac school in nearby sheboygan... and that's ok. am suspecting debbie and/or the parent will find little solace in being told that the moribund MBAs who current run the business world, themselves a product o' the school of human potential development which reinforces the self-perpetuating truth that you need to go to the best University possible, are too myopic to realize the value o' a good air conditioner repair technician. is not actual funny and is doubtful debbie or the parent(s) have the same speedy journey as did homer. even if tomorrow there is a sea change in secondary education and the the business world hierarchy, whatever benefits result will not help debbie, at least not today. is no simple fixes. is no magic pills. is no revolutionary innovation capable of fixing for debbie... unless is involving time travel. stuck in denial is why college dropout rate continues to increase? as usual, the fixes involve long term solutions which will not see payoff 'til long after the next election cycle or quarterly report. sell legislators and voters on the need for a bit of economic pain today to benefit debbie's kids? good luck. HA! Good Fun!

like it or not, a university degree remains one of the better predictors o' eventual economic success. if jane goes to college, she will likely make more money, own a home and eventual send her own kids to college than if she did not complete a four-year degree. guidance counselors and teachers is not pushing kids to go to college on a whim or based on bad information... save for recognition far too many young adults is failing to complete their college degree goals. however, economic security for those who get their polisci or art history degree is not a guarantee by any means. diplomas is not willy wonka golden tickets and is worth noting the national college dropout rate has steadily increased since the 70s, and has disproportionate increased for economic disadvantaged groups. our support for not-college has been voiced many times. am believing many persons who fail college could find success in vocational schools, but am thinking the choice to attend a vocational school after they fail college is unnecessarily burdensome to students, and not just economic burdensome. it would be our preference if states could find ways to make college success more likely as well as identifying students more suited for vocational school while removing the pointless stigma which may accompany the vocational school choice... though am conceding we do not feel comfortable with placing the burden on government to make people feel better 'bout their life choices. HA! Good Fun!

is no reason why people cannot bartend to help... but the point being made is that a part time job + summer work could cover most/all o' college expenses once upon a time. people could put themselves through college w/o amassing huge debt or crippling mom and dad's retirement plans. nowadays, such jobs cover cost of books and perhaps personal expenses but not tuition or housing. HA! Good Fun!

am in a curious position: am believing national debt crisis and income inequality is the two biggest national scope problems. am recognizing how difficult it is to fix either 'cause obvious solutions to income inequality is gonna magnify debt. am also one o' the people who saw as axiomatic the pandemic would magnify income inequality. young people today will still be able to buy houses and go to college in the future, but will be increasing difficult unless those young people is from families at the more economic advantageous end o' the income inequality curve. even so, horatio alger stories is possible in 2021, but too many people use such real life stories to perpetuate the myth that the system works fine 'cause a person may indeed go from lowest rungs o' economic strata to the top in one generation. increasing income inequality is in large part what made trumpism possible. polarization political increases as does economic pain. hurlshot is no doubt aware o' the nativism which accompanied the 1920s, yes? am baffled by how little we recall o' the 1920s and how similar is the problems. nevertheless, stephen miller, god help us all, were unapologetic using calvin coolidge policies as a freaking guide for the trump administration. in 2021, inner city urban families is suffering from same core problems as working class americans in the heartland, but thanks to opportunists like steve bannon, hundreds of millions o' people functional sharing the same fox hole see each other as enemies. same nonsense as the 1920s. provide people good jobs, economic security and a little optimism 'bout the future and much o' the anger and most o' the polarization will evaporate. easier said than done, eh? and then we will still have looming and crushing debt... HA! Good Fun!

unless he decides a particular program isn't stupid. however, he will literal kill legal charged peace officers enacting democratic passed and Constitutional laws if he decides the law/program is offensive to his personal sensibilities. *shrug* you are not gonna make headway. HA! Good Fun!

which is exactly what giuliani were faced with when trying mob bosses. HA! Good Fun!

let the investigations play out before trying to predict all charges. sure, for many there is gonna be enough evidence today to charge something and believe it will stick. investigate and discover how much persons knew and when they knew and how many were involved in planning ahead and during the event. *chuckle* would be ironic if giuliani were subject to rico, no? HA! Good Fun!

am not sure why some people believe a recognition that the january 6 rioters were a mob somehow precludes the possibility that many people and sub-groups w/i the mob were engaging in seditious behavior. am also gonna admit that the video linked by @Achilles has the speaker beginning with observations which were new to us. have watched a bit of fox and cnn. have read a fair amount at npr, washington post and many national newspapers. the description o' the mob elements as highly skilled were a bit o' a straw man in our personal experience as have literal never seen that claim made in the week since the Capitol riot. am not doubting a few pundits identified some select rioters or groups o' rioters as being militarized to some degree, but we all saw bison horn guy and who amongst us thought he were an element o' a well-trained militia group? the folks being arrested so far, or who is showing up frequent in news stories, is hvac repairmen from chicago or real estate agents from new jersey. an olympic medal swimmer were arrested. the singer in the article we linked earlier didn't strike us as skilled in modern combat techniques. the retired fireman who was bludgeoning cops with a fire extinguisher may not have been a professional, but he clear crossed a line and that line were not fuzzy and tough to recognize. how many of the rioters who entered Capitol property w/o permission were hoping to at least delay the electoral college counting? not skilled professionals. however, is tough to not see trump as A inciting cause and many were bent on actions which fall w/i any dictionary or legal definition o' seditiious. a seditious mob is not an oxymoron. HA! Good Fun!

we were a bit older than three. our visual memory is excellent. our audio memory is ok. olfactory and taste? 85 were a long time past. if somebody put before us dixie cups with varieties o' not readily available cola soda and then asked us to pick out new coke, am not having a high degree o' confidence we could accurate identify. we literal tasted the stuff on less than ten separate occasions during one summer more than three decades in the rear view mirror. HA! Good Fun!

wrong new coke. https://www.foodandwine.com/news/new-coke-vs-coca-cola-taste-test HA! Good Fun!

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have not bothered to check, but memory tells us it were something in the neighborhood o' 200k blind taste tests which coca cola used to inform their choice to change formulas. an overwhelming % o' people preferred new coke, but the rejection and even anger from the change were no less real. many people hated the idea of changing coke, so they genuine hated new coke even if they preferred new coke in blind taste tests. HA! Good Fun!

Vaccine reserve was already exhausted when Trump administration vowed to release it, dashing hopes of expanded access When Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar announced this week that the federal government would begin releasing coronavirus vaccine doses held in reserve for second shots, no such reserve existed, according to state and federal officials briefed on distribution plans. The Trump administration had already begun shipping out what was available beginning at the end of December, taking second doses directly off the manufacturing line. ... so it goes. HA! Good Fun!

precise 'cause it were a mob is the reason why is unfair to make broad generalizations. same were the case during the summer. difference is there were literal thousands who were breaking into the Capitol with the intent o' delaying or changing the electoral count. there were no doubt many in that mob bent on sedition. likewise there were many who were just going along with a crowd and thought it were being patriotic to show their support for their President. however, as we noted elsewhere, the legal definition o' sedition is a bit more broad than gd's definition. damn democratic process. the battle o' bower hill does not preclude the appropriateness o' charging many involved in the events o' january 6 with crimes o' sedition. HA! Good Fun!

rail 'gaist the bad and stoopid laws, which you observe is a personal measure divorced from any objective standard, as anti-freedom while you tout your support o' democracy is hard to square... and fact you do not realize the problem is amusing to us. just one example. is absolute nothing which precludes both of us being thickheaded. @BruceVC *sigh* as a libertarian, gd is already antagonistic to democracy. his various no compromise positions on what he deems is essential liberty rights, positions which go well beyond even what the most ardent Constitutionalist will advocate, is a rejection o' basic democratic principles. recall, gd stated he would kill peace officers lawful directed to retrieve his rusty chainsaw while acting under color o' law. he don't get it, and he is not alone. you can be a patriotic american and be anti-democratic. recent events should make that point abundant obvious. HA! Good Fun!

and again, democracy is the method by which in the United Sates of America, The Government of, by and for the people, decides which stupid ideas will be made law. prohibiting eating and drinking while operating an automobile is anti liberty and stoopid to gd, but other individuals disagree with that assessment. so, which stoopid ideas become laws? you aren't against democracy? however, you are against the corrupt and untrustworthy The Government as if the government is some kinda monolithic thing divorceable from people choosing through votes those representatives who will advance their causes. you just don't get the whole democracy thing. government is bad because through the democratic process it makes choices gd disagrees with? is anti liberty and corrupt 'cause it is possible for the government to do that which is disagreeable to gd? not all government is bad though. protect gd land and his quiet enjoyment o' his chainsaw? so, again, who decides? your ideology is transparent self-serving. new coke was not a democratic choice. the company which made the choice did blind taste tests by the thousands and overwhelming results showed people preferred new coke. unfortunate, the informed and arguable intelligent choice o' replacing original coke with a flavor people preferred ignored the predictable irrationality and unreasonableness o' purchasers. all too often, the right choice might be the stoopid choice 'cause the people are unreasonable, irrational, easily distracted and prone to making decisions based on emotion as 'posed to intellect. gd mistakes a flaw in government with an inability to recognize human nature for what it is... which were the point o' hobbes' state o' nature observation. democracy is not a system o' government intended to implement the least stoopid laws. plato's philosopher king is perhaps what you are looking to achieve? through process o' deliberation and reflection, democratic laws is passed and agreed 'pon by consensus o' the people or their elected representatives resulting in limits and restraints which the people as a whole will agree to observe 'cause o' the recognition the The People is the government. "no taxes" were the cry o' the revolutionaries o' 1776? nope. "no stupid taxes?" nope. "no taxation without representation." sound familiar? oh, and we would not be revolted if gd said he were anti democracy. he is. you just can't admit it. HA! Good Fun!

Tampa Bay singer used voice for screaming during Capitol riot Audrey Ann Southard spent years helping kids find their creative voices and strengthening her own. The Spring Hill vocal coach and piano teacher sang like an angel when she posted videos of herself crooning Norah Jones’ Don’t Know Why or belting out Memory from Cats, and when she went to Sicily in 2012 for an international music competition, she won. That led to a showcase on a stage inside New York’s Carnegie Hall. More recently, Southard used her powerful soprano to scream at police officers that they should “tell f--king Pelosi we’re coming for her! F--king traitorous c--ts, we’re coming! We’re coming for all of you!” She was part of the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. ... am now gonna read everything by christopher spata. that is an epic freaking lede. HA! Good Fun!

'Hello, Nice FBI Lady': Capitol Hill Jamoke Emailed FBI Video of His Crimes, Court Documents Say According to court documents, Lyons, who initially denied his involvement in the incident but confirmed he was in D.C. at the time, said he had a “dream” he was nearby when something similar to the far-right invasion of inside Congress occurred. But investigators clearly weren’t buying his story and showed Lyons a mountain of evidence suggesting he was involved, including Twitter and Instagram posts Lyons made while he was in D.C. Lyons, who underestimated the investigative powers of the FBI, was surprised at how quickly they had linked him to the events of last week and admitted his guilt. “Wow, you are pretty good,” he said when he was confronted with overwhelming evidence of his actions on Capitol Hill. ... HA! Good Fun!

review. you defended multiple times... and Gromnir didn't respond. our memory is just that elephantine. HA! Good Fun!

Retired Firefighter Charged with Beating Three Capitol Police with Extinguisher During Capitol Insurrection "Federal prosecutors have charged Robert Sanford, a 55-year-old from Pennsylvania, with four federal crimes, including allegations that he assaulted three Capitol Police officers by hitting them in the head with a fire extinguisher." ... got nothing to add.

stoopid 'cause gd says is stoopid. oh, and whatever the flaw, the prohibition 'gainst eating and drinking by drivers is in fact reasonable and rational. is curious how we got prohibitions 'gainst distracted driving which includes texting, but somehow eating fries and a burger while driving is okie dokie. am getting that an entire industry o' drive-thru restaurants depends on individuals being able to eat and drink while operating their vehicle, but is inherent less safe. democratic elected officials decide the social costs o' injuries and accidents is too much? stoopid 'caus gd says so. btw, you complained 'bout such as an example o' how we ain't genuine living in a free country. posed as a liberty interest, not unwise. the laws and spending which gd believes is stoopid and unacceptable exist most often 'cause democrat elected officials, representing their constituencies, decide how to spend gd's taxes and consider which o' his interests need be protected. the real problem is that they choose not the way gd wishes. is no big conspiracy or fundamental flaw in The Government. they, through predictable and messy democratic process, chose wrong. is not the freedom issue gd all too often indulges. am gonna get you to enlightenment eventual... would be satisfied with a bit more self fact checking, but we won't give up on this either. HA! Good Fun!