Influence

GIVE IT UP Laozi, you lsot this battle casue fanatic makes a good point why woudl they have massive guards surrounding Jedi in a torture chamber. Not to mention If you were the SIth Lord, woudl yu really put 30 guards surrounding a droid or a padawan Cat women? and 8 guards woudl concivably be enough to contend with an old crazy Jedi that is not even drawn strongly towards teh Light Side

YES LIGHTNIGN and CHOKE ARE DS POWERS!! the jedi should take a DS point Penalty everytime they use them, but i am not suggestign allowing the JEdi to use those powers, nor am i suggestign they should recieve similiar powers. All i am saying is that, Jedi sometimes need to implore the use of aggresive powers in order to protect themselves and others from harm. It is ignorant to say the Jedi ONLY use their powers for defense, because as i mentioned above the Jedi Master's according to Shatterpoint which was authorized by the poepl involved in making the CLone wars. THe Jedi Master's had soem experience in trying to perfect Vapaad and making it a weapon agaisnt the sith. But, besides Vapaad, Jedi use other powers offensivily to effectively combat the Dark Side, they use force jump (which the Jedi Guardians use in KOTOR) which is used soley to make a quick and powerfull atack on an enemy at a great distance. Anyone who considers this a defensive skill is crazy. ALso as was mentioned, Jedi in the Clone Wars Cartoon series use aggressive powers to best their enemy's Just becasue a power is a gressive does nto make it DS. Powers that are sidistic and used for evil or torture are DS.

RIght, but im not merely suggesting that the Lightsdie should be able to use DS powers, im saying the light side should have an AGGRESSIVE force power or two such as teh Vapaad thing that the DS doens't have.. which i know Laozi is getting pissed off about the stances and how they arnt truth casue they are not in the movie,but im merely suggesting that they could still be in the game, maybe its a lost technique like battle meditation. Whether the seven stances are real or not, it would still be good to have in the game. THe reasoning behidn having an aggressive power on the LS and not the DS would be because the Jedi woudl have tyo go into a calm meditative state in which his mental awareness and connection to the force is hieghtened so that he can fully immerse himself in battle. Lightsaber swings would be more accurate and powerful, while at the same time increasing your attack rating so that it woudl not merely be an altered form of flurry. I am not suggesting that it should be leik flurry either. When in teh meditational state attacks shoudl be singular or maybe doubled. so that it woudl not look like reckless swinging but a rather more aggressive yet controled posture. ALso, the skill shoudl propably only be available to Jeid Masters since they are the only ones who coudl succesfully avoid the pull of the dark side when using the agressive stance. After all the Jedi masters DID practice MAce Windu's Vapaad from what i have read and while it was nto considered safe for non-masters it was not considered usign the force irresponsibly.

what type of accent does Juhani have? is it Iraqy? Muslim? Something else? Eygyptian maybe?? All i knwo is she KINDA sounds like the protector guy with the dark robes and hair in the Mummy movies feat. brendan Frasier . ANd dude.. about the trio thing.. Juhani is pretty gross i wanted to slash her face with my lightsbaer and do a lil "Jedi reconstructive surgery" but the game wouldnt let me.

maybe it was a msitka to alow you PC to only duel on the first part of the game when he is weakest

all im sayign is that i want to be light side, but i want to have soem offensive powers, i wanan be liek Mace Winduh and be aggressive but passive wise, and good at teh same time, its really not to much to ask its merely realistic.

you are thought BY THE SITH to be teh last Jedi, the game sumaries i read have NEVER said that your ARE the last Jedi or the orders only hope. I think there will still be a counsel

IT'S NEVER BEEN CONFIRMED OR EVEN HINTED AT THAT YOU CAN GET AN APPRENTICE I just don't know where people keep getting this assumption from... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are correct, it has not been hinted at all and will most likely NOT BE AN OPTION! Howeever, do to the fact of teh existence of Prestige classes such as Sith Lord or Jedi master, it would be logical that upon assumign one of thsoe two classes you recieve anapprentice or padawan. I have no problem with assuming a padawan if its nto soem ugly loser, who is ****y about hsi skills, or is extremely weak, or a woman. Basically no Juhani characters.

I hope their is still some sort of Jedi Coununsul structure, to learn and take orders from, or to kill. DSLuke has a point the Jedi kinda and the high Counsul kinda sucke din KOTOR, i mean the most powerfull jedi jsut sat back and watched as you did their dirty work. They needed every man they could get to fihgt, but they couldnt fight along side you? I hope this changes at soem point in KOTOR 2 where you fight along Other Jedi Master's or Sith.

hows about fable sucks.. and hows about tatoos, shoes dotn matter tattoes DO!

you got a point, and hoodies too though, also selecting hair lenthg and style, and lets not forget teh mother f'in bad azs TaTOOS, hey it woudl be hot to have tatoos whether your LS OR DS!

King snake, i like that Idea a Lot.. Make sure you suggest that for KOTOR 3.. cause hopefully the plot will be completely brand new, but at the same time be connected, or at least give reference to the previous KOTOR games. Like 20 years after the Fall of TSLs, Maybe Revan and Bastillia are Jedi MAsters on the Council, the Jedi's rebuild their order and you are a baby sent form a planet YOU get to pick and stuff like that. Also i want the trianing to be very hands on and detailed.. i dont want it to be some much liek teh training on Dantooine in KOTOR where its just a cutscene... I want to be more involved and actaully spar with my master, pick my stance, and start my stats right from the get-go

a predetermined character is much better becasue if they are referred to alter in teh EU comic books and books and stuff it solidifies the reason you played the game and makes it more meaningful, I do not think a customizable NPC would be good for the game and or teh story line, they only player you shoudl customize is your MC.

they should have issued a KOTOR pre order-special edition package. Liek Bungie did for Halo 2...its a money maker for osidian, and also it would intrigue fans, you shouldnt get anything just for buying the game regualarly; but if they did a pre-order thing it would be neat if you got a keychain, but clothing and stuff is jsut dumb. Maybe a book or something if you preordered it. a SIGNED book of shatter point or something I dont know... Anyone else think a Pre-order would have been good and would have been a good way to give out the above mentioned merchandise?

AHAHAHA thats funny, you might even have to kick your OWN ass

I want a Purple lightsaber keychain, but a poster for revenge of thei sith would be ok .. if it was an official poster, like the ones they have up in the Movie theater

I cant help it i type fast

DOH! Ok so you got me, but the point is Mace Did NOT turn to the DS he was on teh Jedi Council and proved numerous tiems, if you read his bio on starwars.com taht he coudl resist teh lure of teh darkside while other could not. His attakc was accpeted by other jeid masters and they trianed themselves in it so they msut have deemed it acceptable to use in some cases. THe point is that the Light side Jedi have some practices that are aggressive but nto available to the dark side this is an example of one of them.... KOTOR shoudl also have types of LS attack i know to many it seems liek an oxy moron, but surely one or two woudl not casue teh Jedi order to crumble. I mean we are talking aobut a simple push and pull of an enemy's body here not torture.

reagrdless of anything else, a vapaad stance liek MAce Windu's would own severly if only the light side coudl use it.... and the push pull thign where you toss you opponent to lower his defense and then pull him otwards you to face him in combat would be, in my mind acceptable Jedi powers and not Borderline darkside, seeing as the force is not actaully damging their bodys-

ahah force rollover... well a good light side power would be to make the creatures Docile... if you were running low on life and another fight woudl kill you, you could do that to wild animals although it would nto work on Dark Jedi or most humans. Almost like an in combat persuade for animals. You shoudl recieve experience for using it aswell, becasue it takes the plavce of killing the creature.

Exactly! .. and in Kotor that is pretty much your only opition, you cant jsut talk Kath hounds out of attacking you now can you?

SO you are suggesting that a JEdi never needs to defeat an opponent? Well in Kotor it woudl nto work that way you cant jsut stun your opponents and walk away without defeating them. Jedi must be on teh offensive soemtiems to keep teh peace adn defeat teh dark side. Im not talking about usign teh force to take a life but merely in the games term to even the playing field Mace Windu creates i fighitng stance where the Jedigoes into a transe-liek state and is able to fully immerse himself in battle and have swift more accurate, more powerfull, anf more speedy attacks, it is not a defensive stance, and yet it was created by the noble Jedi Master Mace Windu. Are you questioning him as tettering to teh Dark side? I shoudl hope not!

YOu woudl be wrong wouldnt you? ahah jsut kiddin

BUT ALSO the dark jedi have a power in this new game called fury i think, which as they dish out attacks the attack get more powerfull with eahc consecutive hit. THe Jedi shoudl have an anti Fury called battle stance or clarity or calm or something in which they go into a special stance where they use the force to preform acrobatics making themsleves more elusive and allowing them to attack with greater accuracy and power. THat woudl be well within the boundaries of teh Jedi Code. COnsidering Mace Windu does that VII lightsaber form stance supposidly.

Wel if your a consular and a SIth assasin is running at you with 2 lightsabers and you arnt that great with one, don't think you shoudl be able to throw him back giving him 15 damage then pull him fowardand slash him with ur saber.... because force push AND pull are both powers used by Jedi im merely suggesting in addition to whirlwind, mixixng push and pull together so you can fling the guy around a lil bit allowing you to better defend yourself with teh saber. Im not requestiong the Jedi to use attacks that can kill the opponent.