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Ahh, thanks. Found it.

Ok so I fell into the Logitech trap again because they were at the store and the old one died. It's a cordless g700. I presume I need some kind of wireless port on the computer to get it to work without the cord. There was no USB dongle thing in the package. What PCI card do I get ?

Policing the web is a logical conclusion to how much of our interactions have gravitated there. I sure don't hope the intellectual propery rights lobby manage to completely tame the west though. The net could evolve into a rather terrifying method of control. I mean you already have to watch what you put out there. Companies have guidelines about what employees are allowed to say on social networks about their workplace which extend far past privileged information. The same goes for marketability in a job seeking situation, You can't afford to offend anybody.

They tried that in the 60s, didn't take on a large scale.

I think it's fine that they want personality to come to the forground at the expense of biology and historical norms. It's not going to work though, just IMHO.

Kindof a useless job as well. If I were deaf and wanted to know what was goin on I'd want subtitiles.

Love her, that's brilliant.

Watching Star Trek TNG in a bout of nostalgia. You really can't do everything with rubber facemolds. Well you can, but it's not exactly easy on the eyes. That's from Voyager, I know. God I hate Neelix.

Watching Star Trek TNG in a bout of nostalgia. You really can't do everything with rubber facemolds. Well you can, but it gets really fugly on the eyes.

And yet interesting implications for sauce.

The temptation to pick up an unconscious alien and put it in your backback is best avoided, even if it's just the one you need for the armor upgrade.

OMG dude from Nazereth totally walked on water.

She never actually said that. It was a misquote, probably nurtured by the revoultionists.

Maybe, and maybe for not having dallied around with religion they would be sporting tricorders and spandex suits and have eliminated hunger and disease.

This is getting into the whole subjectivity debacle again. Alright then, demonstrate God within the same margin for error as the existence of your bathroom.

And the sky could fall on our heads, and the sun might decide not to come up and you just might steer this conversation towards something sensible but the chances of all that are very very slim. Still, my original statement stands. We aren't discussing probability.

Also, the lot of you are assuming too much. I don't prosyletise anything. Certainly not atheism. I'm trying to have an original thought or two and not be hamstrung by dogma, whether it originates in religion, atheism, or middle of the road I don't want to have to think too hard about thisism

How do you know the existence of God can't be proven. That's complete nonsense. He could appear tomorrow 1000 feet tall and shooting thunderbolts from his eyes. You can't say to a certainty that he won't.

platitudes. God would still exist if we were able to prove it.

And how about proving the existence of God. I wonder what he would have to say about all the sneaking around and working in mysterious ways. If he's omnipotent he's got a lot to answer for... That is if he's actually one of the good guys. Could just be good PR.

An example of how naming something is also controlling it. When we are discussing the boundry between the natural and supenatural. 'Because that's what it's called'... It's not really much of an argument now is it.

Since we don't have a TV thread I have been streaming QI with the spectacularly gay Steven Fry. It's a (90s?) gameshow, which I now realise they made in Danish with the spectacularly Gay Jarl Friis-Mikkelsen. Don't remember what it was called. I suspect Fry of helping himself to several large glasses of sherry before taping, which doesn't hurt the entertainment value at all.

The difference is everything we have just gone over. Peer review, the theory is only good as its ability to withstand scrutiny. It's all the difference in the world.

I'm not saying that they are, mostly because religion doesn't come up anymore. It's personalized. You are no longer tried by the inquisition for stating that the world is observably round. If you do actively question religious dogma, still the underpinnings of a majority of religiously active people, it seems you are not allowed to use all your faculties but have to jump in blind and either accept it or not. It's a neat trick alright.

Yes, sure people can believe whatever they want, but if you want to find out if it's actually true you have to question and examine, the sociological construct that is religion aside.