dancingcrab

No, it's not like some old games that only had a voiced first line and the rest was mute, it's somewhat random. I suspect some lines were changed or added after voice recordings, they should get full voiceovers too. It's awkward as is now. I think you'll find it's very much deliberate. It's an extrapolation of that old-school style. It seems that an important character will sometimes have a central spoken dialogue path. However, if you stray from the path (asking tangential questions, for example), often those additional lines will not be voiced. This was a design decision. I quite like it. If anything, I wish they'd break up the spoken dialogue and flavour text, as it's confusing when a character is speaking a whole page at you but on the text it's punctuated by descriptions.

The Prima guide is too big (100MB limit), but I have the Guidebook uploaded to my Google Play account and it works beautifully. I'm reading it on my Nexus 9. I did chunk up the Prima guide into manageable amounts and upload it, but then decided to just buy the physical copy anyway

Hi all, On the first level of the temple of Eothas in Gilded Vale, the Prima guide suggests there are several scouting objects to find that simply are not turning up for me. Any suggestions? A more specific query I have is on the first level, off to the east where you encounter a vision, there appears to be a room north of it through a bricked up arch. I can tell because (a) the Prima guide shows one, and (b) the mouse cursor suggests I can could interact with it as it changes to a pointing hand. However, clicking on it does nothing... What gives? Thanks!

Hi all, So my rogue has a perception of 14, and Aloth has a perception of 16. I'm scouting about some ruins that the Prima guide tells me should have scoutable objects, but they're not turning up. Is it because our perception is too low? Thanks!!

Just out of curiosity, are you referring to the Prima Collector's Edition Guide or the Guidebook, Volume 1 (by Dark Horse)?

A Hero Edition just showed up in my Products page - thank you!

Thank you!

POssibly a good idea. I PM'd Darren to see if he could help.

Thanks for the response. I'm still a little confused. I understand that you pledged at $65 expecting two copies, the physical copies have been held up, you're requesting a second copy. Coolio. However, that's surely the case for many many backers. Everyone who pledged at the $140, for example... like me. From KS: https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/000/207/607/7524fb773e52b3fdcfc90e500702ac68_original.jpg?v=1350199584&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=2d6b02829bcb1d94b1f6419b35a3fd7a https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/000/207/611/4651c9c3fba4e7e61ebf853824e41448_original.jpg?v=1350199655&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=9dfedcc20b4fd209da216d7d34dbfc1f Both came with one physical and one digital. Going by the logic presented here, I am also owed a key? Is that correct? As I only had one provided in the Backer Portal. Thanks!

A few weeks ago (Update 89) they presented the issue they would like to give people who ordered physical copies the chance to play on Day 1 even if the discs were late. To remedy this, they said physical copies would be given a digital key. Yes, I already had a digital key, but I ordered two copies of the game, and one was physical. I ordered two copies so two people could play it, so I still needed the second key. The first digital key (redeemed on steam) is only good for one person. You can find links to Update 89 and 90 here: They did take this into account in Update 89 ( http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/70459-update-89-backer-rewards/ ) and then in Update 90 ( https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/70586-update-90-shipping-and-strategy-guide/ ) They stated they would give out a digital key for all physical tiers so that we could play Day 1. I kickstarted TWO copies. A digital and a physical. This would imply that I would get a second digital key based on the poll results and their posts. It seems that they didn't take into account that I ordered two copies for two separate people, and now only one can play. When you say you 'ordered two copies of the game', do you mean your pledge included two copies?

I'm not sure I understand the OP. The tier they backed comes with a retail box and a digital copy. The digital copy means they can play straight away. Why would they get two? I have a CE box coming and only one digital copy. The wording on the tier implies the same - two copies, one physical and one digital. Should every backer be getting a second digital key?

Okay, I have the DLC on Steam. Question - will the pre-order content and backer bonuses be available on the Backer Portal?

How do we redeem them? Are they tied to our keys? Because there is not a separate entry for them in the Backer Portal...

This is not true on Steam for many modern games (regardless of Steamworks) unless they're from a small indie developer, for reasons stated above. I'll be interested to see if it's the case for PoE. Of course, you could copy the folder to another computer and put it in the Steam directory and Steam will most likely happily use it after repairing the installation. With GOG, I can download the install package and archive it. Done. Never deal with GOG again. Sure, maybe future hardware or OS changes will lead to it being unplayable, I won't have the latest patches, but the game installer is unshackled from ANY server-side needs. Actually that's not only the case for "small indie developers". It's also true for the whole catalogue of games made by Paradox. So there is no reason why it shouldn't be the case for PoE. And it's also the case for example for Divinity Original Sin and everything made by Larian. You can see a full list of DRM-free games on Steam right here. None of these games need the Steam client for anything else than the initial download. Beyond that you can just deinstall Steam. The only difference left between Steam and GOG in this case is that you have to install Steam as a small tool for downloading while you can use your browser for GOG. That's about the WHOLE difference. You can't really call that difference DRM vs. non-DRM anymore. It's just pointless imho. By the way, you can read about Paradox' stance on DRM here and here. Firstly, you needn't be so dismissive of other's opinions. I clearly stated that DRM has become a subjective and charged term. I also posted previously that I'm personally redeeming a PoE Steam key. I like Steam. This isn't a personal attack on you. (Or Steam!) I like to archive my games. I suffer from extreme nostalgia, and have dreams of sharing my gaming experiences with my (currently nine month old) son one day. Thus I like to own DRM-free/platform-independent copies of important titles. In my experience, copying bigger games from their Steam install directory into another directory in order to archive them has resulted in mix results, regardless of Steamworks. I've tried pulled an archived game onto a new PC, with a different installation of the OS, and it simply hasn't been able to launch due to a lack of configured registry items and necessary complex admin rights for save locations. This may not be other's experience, but it has been mine. GOG and the Humble Store make my archiving process much simpler. I understand this is not an angle you are pushing for. Your analogy comparing Steam and your browser makes this clear. However, GOG (and Humble) providing independent installer packages is a positive for many of us, and something Steam does not offer.

Ummm... Steam is DRM... I'll get mine on GoG and pick up a Steam version down the line when it's on sale. Nope. Not unless you call logging in to GoG with a username and account DRM, and also downloading GoG's installer for each separate game DRM. It's been explained to bits before. Unless a publisher uses Steam's CEG for DRM protection, Steam games don't have DRM, and then the Steam client and being logged-in / online isn't required to play games downloaded from Steam. GoG has no advantage of being DRM-free unless a publisher chooses to put DRM into their Steam release while offering a DRM-free release on GoG. Otherwise, GoG is DRM in the same sense that Steam is DRM: - A logged-in account is required to access the games for download - Downloading an installer is required - GoG uses their own installer for each individual download, while Steam's client is the one-time installer for all downloads - Neither service requires the installer / client to be used afterwards, so a person can either delete the installer, or uninstall the client, if desired - In the case of either service, a downloaded game folder can be archived, stored, extracted, and used anywhere and on any PC without restrictions I have no issue with either Steam or GoG's services, but someone who thinks that they are getting even 1% more freedom through GoG's DRM-free versus Steam's DRM-free is experiencing it exclusively inside of their own mind. The two are completely equal in steps and protection measures when it comes to DRM-free releases. But Steam's client re-usability for all game downloads is an extra convenience added to every download. In both cases, after the installation is done, the GoG installer or the Steam installer / client can be deleted / uninstalled, and the game folder can be access by any means a person chooses, and can be archived, moved, extracted, and the game played by whatever means a person opts for. Steam and GoG are equal in their DRM measures for DRM-free games. It's only a question of whether a person would like the possibility of a one-time installer to access all games versus a separate installer for every game that they choose to download. If anything, GoG is more restrictive with their access than Steam because Steam's client lets any number of games, DRM-free and non, be downloaded without visiting a website every time, browsing for the game from the user account, saving the installer to desktop, running the installer, then deleting the installer afterwards. Then creating and managing the game launch shortcuts and folders... In the cases of both Steam and GoG, the user purchases a license for the game, not an installer, and not an account. GoG also has a Terms of Use agreement, which reserves GoG the same rights to terminate an account, and to change their Terms of Use without warning and at their discretion. Nobody knows if Obsidian have stated whether the Steam version of PoE will include DRM? This is misleading. The whole DRM thing is a charged topic, and I think it greatly depends on what your definition of DRM is. To be clear, unless Steamworks is being used (which I believe it will NOT be for PoE), then neither platform is using an invasive or malicious form of DRM. No rootkits (hah, remember rootkits?), no server side activations, etc. But if DRM-free means that you have access to your game in an archived form (e.g. the uninstalled installer) offline or when the platform is unavailable, then Steam is DRM. Although may install the game and delete Steam and it will run, you likely won't be able to archive the game's install directory for posterity as the installation process will rely on registry entries, etc. This is not true on Steam for many modern games (regardless of Steamworks) unless they're from a small indie developer, for reasons stated above. I'll be interested to see if it's the case for PoE. Of course, you could copy the folder to another computer and put it in the Steam directory and Steam will most likely happily use it after repairing the installation. With GOG, I can download the install package and archive it. Done. Never deal with GOG again. Sure, maybe future hardware or OS changes will lead to it being unplayable, I won't have the latest patches, but the game installer is unshackled from ANY server-side needs.

Whoooo!!

I'm getting a DRM-free disc, so my digital edition will be Steam. My internal logic is that I always prioritise owning a DRM-free/non-Steam version, and then take Steam second. If I didn't have the disc copy, I would have grabbed a GOG version. That said, I'd like the opportunity to have a copy on GOG as well. I prefer how easy it is to access their bonus materials (specifically, not needing to have the game installed).

Steam lets you play on two machines, but not simultaneously.

That is quite interesting. But ultimately that was a decision Paradox would have made. Obsidian simply chose not to offer a physical soundtrack as a reward.

Don't touch me... I'm SUPER important!

Actually, considering prom000 mentioned that s/he pledged after the Kickstarter, looking at the KS page may be misleading. The discrepancy between the KS and post-KS rewards is one of the things I was addressing in my OP. One option for checking post-KS rewards is to begin a new pledge (which you can do from your account page). It will list the rewards for each post-KS pledge level. Then just back out.

Pretty sure they've scrapped the DVD/Bluray completely - I think there is a KS update somewhere regarding the decision. "No, it's just, got a loada cargo in the hold, and a loada bills to pay at home."

Obsidian wrote back!

I think the concern regarding the term 'retail collector's edition' is that there already appears to be a discrepancy between backer versions (see my OP)... so referring to my KS backed rewards as 'retail' makes me nervous, like I'm not getting what I pledged for. I have also emailed Obsidian. Please report back if you hear anything!

Hi all! I only just figured out how to 'finalise' my $140 pledge - it'd been linked and sitting in my PoE account for months up until now. After Update #83, I pushed it through and now the website shows confirmation of my order. Anyway, my question is this - Is there a place on the PoE website that confirms, with details, what you have pledged for? The reason I ask is that I briefly read through the list of stuff whilst I was finalising, and I'm pretty sure it mentioned things like: thank you postcard from the developers campaign almanac in-game item exclusive pet cooking with Tim making of documentary etc. However, the only way to see a similar list is to start a new pledge, but when doing that, the $140 pledge doesn't appear quite as complete (I've attached a screenshot). Are there two lists? Am I wrong in this? Am I going MAD? I would like to confirm that my pledge includes the items that I thought it did! Adding to my concern is that my order confirmation simply lists my pledge as a 'Retail Collector's Edition'... which makes it sound like something different to a KS pledge. Thanks in advance for help and advice. I'm not in anyway upset, just would like to confirm that my pledge rewards haven't changed without me realising. Cheers!