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A thing to remember: Save in case of big fights in rush houre.

ToEE was one of the worse modules I ever played in ADD. Never understod why they made a game on an old bad modul in a setting that is not used very much today.

Don't give the kids any ideas...... Lets keep them on safe BG sex.

You're putting words in my mouth. Yeah, it tells me 1) you're completely ignoring my argument above and 2) you need to read this: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/b...n-of-proof.html edit: this is a more applicable one: http://esgs.free.fr/uk/log02.htm :D Great links.

Ok. So why is it such a stretch to believe that people might follow a trend which is far more likely to make those sorts of figures. Than one which will just keep them going ? Your basically asking someone to do someting you yourself wouldnt do. Obsidian have the quality to play with the big boys. Why shouldnt they do it ? Should the options not be: Do you make a clon game and maybe get 1.000.000$, and maybe loose 100.000$, or do you go for nich market and probably make 100.000$+.

You yourself still refuses to give evidence why RT could not cause Obsidian harm. 1b: POR2 comes to mind. 2b: And many DD games never sold that much. On the other hand SW games have also sold well, and we do have SWG now that seams to be a somewhat success (even if I find it lacking in content at release). If DD games can rise or flop, and SW games can rise and flop, I do find 1b and 2b without to much weight in this discussion.

I dont see how making an MMPORG would cause them to crash and burn as you put it. It might ruffle a few feathers but thats nothing new Jade did exactly the same thing. I have to agree. Making a MMORP will not make them hated enough to crash and burn. But making a bad MMORP will probably leave an impression that they are messing with stuff they don't know anything about. It might also lower the money they have for making games if it flopps, but with a very high probability not enough for a C&B.

I'm sure IP did some sort of "research" before booth Lionheart and FOBoS.....So much for that reseach. As you said it is your guess only.

I thought that little pervert Joda-wannabe had a strange smile.

If project X really is KotORII there is no way it is going to have brothels or prostetutes. They want it so be able to sell to as low age customers as possible while still not being childish.

I dubt that many would go buy a xbox just because they otherwise have to wait for PC version. Personaly I did not mind having to wait for awhile for KotOR, since we got some more stuff and a more stable game on PC (except maybe that problem at leveling when we got 8 in all stats ).

Thats usually because I am on the side that either isnt looking for change. Or is supporting the maximised sales strategy B) I dont know how you came to the conclusion I am not interested in TTB games. Interested or not dosnt change the fact that I wouldnt tell someone to make a TTB game if it was going to get 10% of the sales of an RTWP game. That just dosnt strike me as a sensible thing to do. That is the point.... Just because they are doing something it is not necessarily the best strategy to sell maximum number of games. It is just assumed to be so. As for not being interested in TB.........It must have been something you said. And again that it will only sell 10% is your assumption. What is your proof of that statement?

Gothenburg-Sweden-Europe-Terra-Sol-Milkyway, or something like that.

Use the sniper kitty, dangerously cute.

Only if it is a comedy game.

Well if your asking someone to take a risk the onus of evidence is usually on you. If I wanted Obsidian to say start making ATB games then I would use Squares success to back that up. Not that I want them to, its just an example. No one seems to be able to come up with a single succesful STB RPG game which I find very interesting. And it dosnt support the assertation that making said game would not cause financial harm. Good old Pally, never needing to prove anything himself while every one else need to do so. Concidering that there is a lot of RT games that have failed as well, RT is hardly a safe card (Lionheart?). Hence what is youre evidence that RT will sell (you are the one saying they should go RT after all and have as much need to prove your point). I doubt that any one will come up with a STB RPG game that "interst" you since you by definition are not interested in TB games. So how could someone come up with something that "interest" you? They have been taking up examples and comaprations from your own posts without even getting a single acknowledgement when they had a point.

And what piece of evidence do you have that a STB would not sell well? When we start talk about evidence we will usually end up with nothing, since it is more or less impossible to prove anything that is in the future. We can fall back on statistics, but they are not any proof and can be twisted to supoort anything, if you know what you do.

Hopefully it will be famous for a great story and openendidness that few game can match. Hey one can dream, right? If they add some more graphic choices, like bodytype not being set to profession but Str/Dex/Cha (cha in the way of very low gives misproportioned body) and more faces to choose from it would be great.... Ah, what the heck, give us more clothing to customize charecters look as well, and ability to easily add graphic skins for clothing and look on PC version.

kitty, your form of "love sharing" usually involves a knife and stabbing. taks Silence! My secrets shall not be revealed! *"loves" taks* Should that not be: You hurt the one you love? No, it should not be. So Hell Kitty has given some luve to you then.

Sure, I brought those two games up in the first place, but my question was aimed at countering this: You bring up sales records, and I was simply asking you to put things in perspective. In perspective of what ? As I said I didnt bring those games up and I dont have figures for them. Look at your own goddamn quote. "However neither sales record of those games I would consider worth Obsidians time." And I said that you can't make that statement because they belong in the market for computer squad based tactical games. Read the whole thing over again. What's so damn hard to understand? A "famous" quote from SP: "It makes perfect sense. You simply didnt understand it. Next.." Just so you would understand SP Revolver. Sometimes we make statements that follow us through life.

Obsidian is a new company that don't have a long set of games to show. Sure that workers at the company have worked on other games before, but those games are generaly not associated with Obsidian. So after first game is released they will be associated with it untill they manage to make something better or something that flopps, and then the flickle gamers will assiciate them with that one, untill next game that make an impression.

Preferbly TB if they have to choose.

I don't have blind faith, which is the reason I have not even played IWDII. The first was a dungeuon crawl, and acording to my friends the second was not that much different. That is the reason it is one of the few BIS games I don't have (together with lionheart). I just hope that Obsidian will make a good game, which would be in their interest since they are a new company and realy need to make a name as independant game developers. The first game will be what most people will use to judge them, so if first game is good they should have an easier time getting more games out. A "Slam-dunk-flopp" is not an option.

kitty, your form of "love sharing" usually involves a knife and stabbing. taks Silence! My secrets shall not be revealed! *"loves" taks* Should that not be: You hurt the one you love?