JadedWolf

Not to my knowledge. Which makes the "she's out to take away our vidya gaems!" screaming all the more baffling. I think you're absolutely right. I very much doubt that in reality people need to fear that there really will be some sort of censorship that will ruin games for them. As long as there is such a thing as a large demographic with money to spend wanting something and a free market to provide it for them, nothing short of government intervention will stop the two from meeting. Personally though, like I said before, I think the whole episode should serve as a wake up call for people who play games to see what a large part of the gaming press really thinks of them. There is certainly a toxic element that uses the GamerGate hashtag, and for me personally that makes it impossible for me to support it. I am of the opinion that what directly lead to it is a storm in a glass of water anyway. If you really want to look at corruption in the gaming industry you should be looking at the AAA games with hundreds of millions in budgets advertising in the same media that critique them, not at some indie game developer and her relationship with a journalist. That being said I think the "gaming press" is far too eager to condemn everyone who uses the GamerGate tag under a "if you are not for us you are against us" policy. That, coupled with the comments we've seen in this thread, certainly makes me wonder how deep the contempt for gamers really runs in the industry. They could easily engage with the more reasonable elements of the "movement" while ignoring the toxic elements. They choose to do completely the opposite, and seem to be willing to throw the more reasonable among the "movement" under the bus to further their agenda. Let's say, hypothetically, that even the more reasonable elements (the people who don't support the nastiness that GamerGate is getting the negative publicity for) are in essence misguided and misinformed. Does that then excuse the things that are being thrown in their direction? If I would be a journalist I would try to get them on my side by engaging with them in a reasonable way, rather than to gleefully antagonize them and at the same time pulling in the mainstream media and feeding them everything they need to once again proclaim that gaming really is the hobby of neckbearded creeps who don't have a real life.

This one? http://www.ongamers.com/articles/league-of-legends-player-who-reportedly-made-terrorist-threat-faces-up-to-10-years-in-prison/1100-894/

I didn't expect them to be less overt, if anything I expected them to be more overt. Most media will not call them on their ****, no matter what his low they sink. You are very much right. There are a lot of lazy journalists out there. I found an article in a Dutch newspaper, one which normally rarely ever covers anything to do with games, decrying the terrible abuse suffered by women at the hands of the conservative angry white males known as GamerGate. The journalist who wrote it had obviously just copied everything from the Forbes article without doing any sort of research of his own into the subject. And I imagine this sort of thing is spreading to local newspapers everywhere. The force of lazy journalism is strong indeed. For those who speak Dutch : http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5595/Digitaal/article/detail/3770903/2014/10/17/Gamevrouwen-bedreigd-Bitch-ik-weet-waar-je-woont.dhtml

If there's anything positive we've learned from this it's that it seems many of these game journalists seem to have a very negative view of their own readers. It comes across as very cynical when they resort to the same sort of tactics towards GamerGate people that people use against people who play games in general. Calling them shut-in basement dwelling neckbeard nerds. I'm not supporting GamerGate, but as someone who plays games my eyes sure are opened as to what a large part of the gaming press seems to think of us. Respectfully yours, from my basement, Dread pirate Neckbeard.

That's a funny comment I guess, but Turkey has very different reasons for "sitting back". http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/turkish-warplanes-hit-kurdish-rebels-as-tensions-stoked-by-islamic-state-fight/2014/10/14/cca48b44-538a-11e4-ba4b-f6333e2c0453_story.html

Wow, this place got weird while I wasn't watching.

Which of these two do you support? 1) Those spoilt boys are playing games I don't like. I want you to change those games so I like them! /stamp foot Or... 2) Those boys sure are spoiled for games. But I don't have any games I like, can you make me some? Look, I have money. <open wallet> And which of the two do you think will sooner catch the attention of a publisher?

Yeah, I don't think you would want to say that to anyone you actually like. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mulkvisti

I'm sorry Bruce, but I don't think anyone here is convinced. True Neutral's post was well thought out and deserved a response, and you seem to have plenty of time to respond to others.

Well, it's not a TV show, but it's on TV... And it's not like there's a football thread. Watching the Netherlands - Kazakhstan game. What a dreadful display by our guys. Especially by van Persie, I am honestly starting to believe that he is officially a has been.

To be honest this is starting to look like a bunch of people manically beating a horse's skeleton at this point.

Firstly, I think a lot of users don't actually read through the whole user policy, and that's why it's useful that this sort of thing is at least put up for discussion so people can be aware of it and form an opinion on it. What you say is true, and there are many reasons why it's handy for Microsoft to collect this data in order to optimise their software, and it's not necessarily a sign that Microsoft is wanting to spy on individual people. I think what it boils down to whether you trust Microsoft or not. Not just in the sense that they may use the collected data for the wrong purposes (well, they will search history for advertisements, but that is nothing new these days sadly), but also whether you trust them to be able to keep the collected data out of the hands of a third party.

My reason for posting this was to inform people on this board, which I succeeded in doing. Otherwise, my dear, I frankly don't give a damn.

Yes, Escapist claims that if you accept the Windows 10 test version's privacy policy, you are in essence allowing Microsoft to record your every keystroke. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137842-Windows-10-Test-Version-Contains-Keylogger

And I bet Geralt would win in a sword fight with either Marx or Adam Smith as well. So I guess we can close this thread.

I think the whole idea that someone might represent a gender's perspective is crazy, period. I'm a man, but I would never claim I could create something that accurately represented the male perspective.

It is indeed a good thing that they will only encounter their "perfect" world in abstract theories.

<Sarcasm> Oh my, time to buy some AMD stock... Intel is obviously going to go bankrupt now. </Sarcasm>

In your grand vision of things, the state would be replaced with all powerful corporations. No thanks.

That really doesn't look like a very realistic budget.

It really depends on how you do it, Bruce.I think it's perfectly reasonable to boycot companies that support causes you don't agree with by funding them with advertisement money. That doesn´t constitute censorship, that´s just using your rights as a consumer. Censorship is if you are crying out to the government to forbid them.