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I finally started playing Icewind Dale this weekend and I'm enjoying it thoroughly. There is something about these classic IE RPG that just gripe me. I think its the D&D ruleset I enjoy? Anyway I am currently exploring the Vale of Shadows and killing loads of undead

Hey look, we are all aware that gamers are sick to the back teeth of PC bull****. That does not preclude a reasoned debate on the matter. I agree and I want to raise another point. Lets say for argument sake people that are pushing feminist ideas or equality have permeated the gaming scene with there ideals of fairness. What negative impact has this had to your personal gaming experience? In other words people are saying that gaming genres are changing. If that's the case can someone give me examples of how games are not as entertaining as they use to be because of the push for equal representation. Because I'm not seeing any negative changes to my overall experience The only changes I am seeing is where games are dumbed down if there is a console version, like your classic RPG.

...hehehe...ain't we all, lad; ain't we all...hehehe... ...WHO LUVS YA, BABY!!... That thread always made me laugh... Oh and it's lass, not lad sweetheart Wait !!! Please don't go anywhere Raven as we don't have enough lady members who contribute regularly to Off Topic. We have everything else....humour, intelligence, sensitivity, insight....but not enough female opinions on topics I'm happy to bribe you if you stay? Maybe a game on Steam?

I've never actually thought about that before, good point. How do these extremists position the afterlife when they convince females to be martyrs?

Monte I'm not sure why you seem to be getting so upset? The reviewer still gave the game 9/10 and its the Editors Choice for September. She is not saying "don't play the game". All she is saying GTA V presents women in one dimensional light and she is probably right I do think the word misogyny is a bit harsh, I would say the game is sexist on certain levels. But not enough where I won't play it. Can we call she an it? I feel that it is somewhere between a man and a woman, which is probably why it felt the need to give its biased opinion (all opinions are biased, btw) instead of just reporting. I get that we need archaeologists to recover the lost manual on how to be a good journalist, but gaming journalism feels more like blogs that comment on games. Also, feminist are approaching the issue of women in gaming entirely wrong. If their stance was that they want more games geared towards a female audience instead of wanting to turn boy's games into women's, they'd probably face less animosity. I'm sorry but I don't agree with what you are saying. Only the last 2 and half paragraphs discuss the perceived misogyny, the rest of the review is glowing. It seems like you guys are very defensive and want to raise an issue where one doesn't exist around this review. This is her opinion, we can take good and bad things from it. And to be honest why can't we have a female protagonist in GTA V? She could be a hardcore gangster in the GTA V world? That its just the problem, it is its opinion and shouldn't bear any relevance on whether the game is good because it is not a game targeted towards women. It is a relevant as complaining that the Expendables should be more woman friendly. If people are defensive is because they perceive a female presence in gaming to be a sign of change in the genres they enjoy, which is proving to be true as there are less games for women and more games for men that try to be woman friendly. The funny thing its that most of the talk seems to be supportive of this instead of creating games that are exclusively for women, its like they are asking for scraps from the table instead of their own seat at it. I cannot bring myself to respect that. But this change in genre that worries you only has to be a problem if you allow it. Also we don't really want separate games for women and men, we want games that are inclusive of both sexes. Also here is the thing you seem to be missing. I can't see games like GTA V going away in the future despite if people think it is sexist. The financial sales success tells us and publishers that this type of game has its fans and can generate huge revenue. So no need to worry, you'll still be able to ride over prostitutes for a good few more years

Melk thats not true I'm afraid There are 17-19 year old super models on magazine covers that represent global fashion movements. You can admire the beauty, it doesn't have to be sordid. But how old was this girl anyway?

Monte I'm not sure why you seem to be getting so upset? The reviewer still gave the game 9/10 and its the Editors Choice for September. She is not saying "don't play the game". All she is saying GTA V presents women in one dimensional light and she is probably right I do think the word misogyny is a bit harsh, I would say the game is sexist on certain levels. But not enough where I won't play it. Can we call she an it? I feel that it is somewhere between a man and a woman, which is probably why it felt the need to give its biased opinion (all opinions are biased, btw) instead of just reporting. I get that we need archaeologists to recover the lost manual on how to be a good journalist, but gaming journalism feels more like blogs that comment on games. Also, feminist are approaching the issue of women in gaming entirely wrong. If their stance was that they want more games geared towards a female audience instead of wanting to turn boy's games into women's, they'd probably face less animosity. I'm sorry but I don't agree with what you are saying. Only the last 2 and half paragraphs discuss the perceived misogyny, the rest of the review is glowing. It seems like you guys are very defensive and want to raise an issue where one doesn't exist around this review. This is her opinion, we can take good and bad things from it. And to be honest why can't we have a female protagonist in GTA V? She could be a hardcore gangster in the GTA V world?

Nope it sounds normal to me. I don't think you ever get to an age as a man where you won't appreciate the female form. No need to be embarrassed about looking, especially at a gym. Most people who go to gyms would appreciate someone noticing them in a positive way

They were probably smoking because they'd just had sex on the back seat. okay that's good

Monte I'm not sure why you seem to be getting so upset? The reviewer still gave the game 9/10 and its the Editors Choice for September. She is not saying "don't play the game". All she is saying GTA V presents women in one dimensional light and she is probably right I do think the word misogyny is a bit harsh, I would say the game is sexist on certain levels. But not enough where I won't play it. That just makes it even more hypocritical. I'm not with you, what is hypocritical ?

Monte I'm not sure why you seem to be getting so upset? The reviewer still gave the game 9/10 and its the Editors Choice for September. She is not saying "don't play the game". All she is saying GTA V presents women in one dimensional light and she is probably right I do think the word misogyny is a bit harsh, I would say the game is sexist on certain levels. But not enough where I won't play it.

Yes, it allows you to play Steam games on your TV

Calax I don't mean to make you feel worse but that's what happens when you drive a Porsche...you become a target for those who are resentful of your success

Where are you at the moment if you aren't at home kgambit? I meant it's a good thing I don't have to leave the house tomorrow to go anywhere .... Hey it was 4 am and I'm running on an empty tank with no caffeine, lucidity isn't a priority atm. LOL Ahhh, okay I see what you mean

Where are you at the moment if you aren't at home kgambit?

Nep if your clients were hot, Russian strippers would you mind babysitting them then?

I don't think that's accurate at all. Groups like Al-Shabaab and Boko Haram ( the group doing all the killing in Nigeria) are based on the ideological teachings of Al-Qaeda and the origins of AQ are from the aftermath of the USSR invasion in Afghanistan. Edit: Oh I see what you mean, my bad

I also watched the pilot of Sleepy Hollow so thx for the tip guys as I didn't know about the series until you all discussed it, it does look entertaining and I'll keep following it.

Oh mcmanusaur I made a similar post a while around the reasons for people liking fantasy RPG, you may get some answers and opinions there? http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/62357-why-do-you-enjoy-rpg/

I know these types of terrorist attacks continue to shock us with there callous indifference to loss of innocent life but this one seems to reach new levels of low Imagine taking your family on a Saturday to a mall for breakfast or some quick shopping and this happens. Al-Shabaab are barbarians and cannot be reasoned with, they need to be arrested or wiped out. That's the only thing they understand

No they would be mentally unbalanced and would be need to be placed in an asylum

Yum, that all sounds very tasty

I've never been able to get it to work online, and I'm in the US. No you must be joking, honestly how hard did you try to get it working?

I would say its 95% chance its Al-Shabaab but you right its not confirmed yet.

This dream fits firmly in the realm of "not meaning anything and its your subconscious mind working its way through your memories "