BruceVC

If I really wanted to watch biased, untrue, anti-western videos I would just watch one of the many declarations of war by one of the various Al-Qaeda associated groups that are common on the Internet if you want to find them

Okay that does surprise me..are you sure about that? Yep, they do, probably more than the 4 I've noticed there though as, well, I'm not gathering intel on them. You are the NSA and I claim my £5.

Some good news, UK and USA advisors are being sent to Nigeria to assist. They say these aren't military personnel but I'm sure they are special force soldiers from both countries http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/06/us-team-nigeria-kidnapping_n_5274484.html http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27316182

Dude, you're arguing with a bot. oby is not a human, he's a very intricate mechanical device designed to string together randomly selected images and sentences and post them on forums. It literally can't think in a different way, no matter how much facts you present. That said, the invention of such an artificial construct is a milestone in AI research. Shame Russian Ministry of Information Considered Very Important Abroad and Forum Spamming wastes it on such trivial pursuits. "a bot "

I've got a awesome day planned tomorrow, I'm going to a winter wine and food event where there loads of the best restaurants in South Africa hosting there gastronomic genius. Its in this open park and there will also be art and various sculptures on display http://www.wintersculpturefair.co.za/

It isn't irrelevant, because citing such examples as Mr Vice is meant to establish moral clarity on the issue- look how these guys treat the free press with disdain! But if others, supposedly more free, are doing much the same then there is no moral clarity, and people should be as outraged or more so than if a bunch of random armed blokes detain someone for three days. You can make anything look bad (or good, for that matter) by tailoring the terms of reference to exclude stuff you don't like and which contradicts your views, indeed it is a particular favourite technique of politicians looking to get the result they want from 'independent' panels. Seeking to redefine everything to a particularly narrow interpretation where (in some cases) even things happening inside Ukraine within the past few months or years are labelled 'irrelevant' or 'deflection' is utterly feeble and no substitute for a proper response. To illustrate why this is utterly feeble argumentation I will declare that everything that is not about Right Sector burning 40 people alive in Odessa as 'deflection' from the True Issue. After all, 40 people dying is far more important than some poor baby being locked up without his iphone for a few days. Ah, I can feel the warm glow of victory on the internet washing over me... Zora I want to ask you a few direct questions. I am not going to presume to know the answer so I would like you to tell me how you feel What is your main issue with how the West operates? Do you have an issue with the politics of how Western countries are governed, do you think they are fundamentally corrupt? I am asking for a paragraph or 2 around how you see the West and there influence on the world. I am not judging you, I want to understand where you come from

Okay that does surprise me..are you sure about that?

Not what he said in the slightest. Despite, he has professed his like of Twilight and regards it as a great work (which is fine) but it does cast some doubt on his taste as a writer. But I always say everyone gets to have one, a particular thing that they like that's of low quality. If he started it comparing it to Shakespeare I would be more nervous though...although Shakespeare really was just the Michael Bay of his time. But Orog he didn't say that about Twilight. He said it is an effective medium for telling a Romance story. This is very different from saying Twilight is a good work of literature http://dgaider.tumblr.com/post/58252412297/on-my-so-called-love-of-twilight

Risen 2 had a great trailer At least Reality Pump is pumping out a pirate game. And AssCreed 4 will be cheap by then too. I'm getting Arcania vibes from Risen 3. I just found another game being developed by Reality Pump, check this out. It looks good http://www.realitypump.com/en/sacrilegium.html

So you're okay with the state tossing people into jail for hurting people's feelings ? To be honest I don't think anyone has actually been jailed in South Africa for offensive comments but people have definitely been fired. We do take it seriously but funny enough the UK has prosecuted more people with real jail time. I think the consideration around jail time depends on what you say? But you are supportive of prosecutions of people for "offensive" and derogatory comments. Alrighty. I meant to comment earlier on this but I got side tracked. I don't think you should necessarily go to jail for offensive comments but it does depend on the circumstances. For example in the South African context we still have issues of racism. This is an example that really happened. About 18 months ago a black women took her two kids to a rugby game. At the end of the game when she was leaving a group of drunken white men surrounded her when she was leaving and started verbally insulting her in front of her children. They threw beer at her and used several racist slurs. But they didn't actually hurt her but they utterly humiliated her and her children and they were all understandably distraught and in tears Now why should be people like that not go to jail? What rights do they deserve? So.... You're saying South Africa has the same issues as the United States? Where we have a case on the books about ensuring that even the KKK gets the free right to hold a rally in the middle of a Jewish neighborhood in Illinois? You see in the South African context you could probably try to arrange something like that but you need to apply for the right to protest or march. And the courts would prudently deny that type of rally as it would be considered provocative

Nep when do we ever stick to the topic at hand all the time

So you're okay with the state tossing people into jail for hurting people's feelings ? To be honest I don't think anyone has actually been jailed in South Africa for offensive comments but people have definitely been fired. We do take it seriously but funny enough the UK has prosecuted more people with real jail time. I think the consideration around jail time depends on what you say? But you are supportive of prosecutions of people for "offensive" and derogatory comments. Alrighty. I meant to comment earlier on this but I got side tracked. I don't think you should necessarily go to jail for offensive comments but it does depend on the circumstances. For example in the South African context we still have issues of racism. This is an example that really happened. About 18 months ago a black women took her two kids to a rugby game. At the end of the game when she was leaving a group of drunken white men surrounded her when she was leaving and started verbally insulting her in front of her children. They threw beer at her and used several racist slurs. But they didn't actually hurt her but they utterly humiliated her and her children and they were all understandably distraught and in tears Now why should be people like that not go to jail? What rights do they deserve?

Shame I feel sorry for her, its not nice to be right in those circumstances

That's true, the Russians had 60K troops on the Ukrainian border and I would argue the Russian troops are more battle hardened

That's a good story, nice one

I still don't get it. So you are male? I wonder why MC said female. I was under the impression you guys voicechat during CoH games. does it matter? we likes to picture all of you naked... but naked and looking like monica bellucci, grace kelly, bettie page, etc. is amazing how much more interesting reading a vol posts is as long as we can hold onto such images. one o' the positives o' the internet is that it frequent don't matter if you is rich, poor, ugly, beautiful or... whatever. say something worthwhile and people will listen. am not saying that is always the case, but it is nice that we can post and not have to get special treatment just 'cause we is beautiful-- our stunning good looks being a bit of a curse. HA! Good Fun! Gromnir I know I'm not wrong around your sex, you are a female right?

That's what I thought, you have raised the fact you are male before. I should have known not to believe Monte

Okay sorry, I didn't realize that.

Indira is a guy?

Hi Squeakymeister "waves" I like you and your perspective on most topics ( except when you don't agree with me on Romance ). I find you have a certain reasonableness to your opinion and you don't get emotional or rather you don't make personal attacks on people which are admirable qualities. I find most of my lady friends in RL have the same calmness to there opinions which helps to balance my more frenetic nature, that is why I wish there were more lady members active on these forums. I'm glad you noticed that as well

Are you trolling KP? I'm not going to get into a debate if you are trolling?

So you're okay with the state tossing people into jail for hurting people's feelings ? To be honest I don't think anyone has actually been jailed in South Africa for offensive comments but people have definitely been fired. We do take it seriously but funny enough the UK has prosecuted more people with real jail time. I think the consideration around jail time depends on what you say?

No, no, no that's completely wrong. I believe in freedom absolutely but not if that freedom means it offends or hurts someone else

No Bruce I understand the issue and simply disagree with your shortsighted ill thought out view, as Monte Carlo suggests the onus lies on the administrators to deal with disruptive elements, not trying to mask the problem through discrimination and apartheid. Those are short term goals that will exacerbate the problem, not help in any way, shape or form. This is so simple a child could grasp it. Furthermore women being accorded a special status to "shield" them will not help the integration of male and female gamers, it will just fuel division. Inequality is wrong, everybody should be treated equally if they have made the same contribution. Okay, well my advice is contact the Star Citizen developers and tell them you disagree with how they are addressing the complaints and issues of female gamers. I support and understand why they are doing it so there is no outrage from my side.

Yes to a certain degree that's correct. Its the same as the laws in your country and mine that prosecute people for racist comments or comments about rape using mediums like Twitter. So you should take this issue up with the UK justice department? Let me know what they say I would absolutely hate to live in such a country. We have the NSA mining our every communication but sure as hell the Feds won't come knocking whenever I quote hardcore gangsta rap (without due citation) on Twitter. Wow its funny you think that in the USA you can just say what you want with no consequences. What happened to Donald Stirling recently? The government had nothing to do with Donald Sterling. The NBA policed the matter on their own. First Amendment only protects individuals from government prosecution for voicing opinions/beliefs. The NBA is not the government. US laws protect your right to free speech, but doesn't protect you from acting like a moron and not suffer the consequences from your community or employer should you be in violation of company rules. Any quibbles about such alleged violations can be settled in court. Okay so in the USA you don't prosecute for words. That's fine I understand that. Many Western countries can and do charge people for derogatory and offensive comments. The point being I support these types of legal prosecutions