BruceVC

Yeah, so my point the whole time was this is not a accurate view of Japanese culture But its better it comes from you as people just don't believe me on this thread when I say things but I'm not complaining...I know the reason why

Seeing as you've offered no rebuttal to Messhugger and I's assertion that Takaki's special message was in line with Japaense culture(with Messhugger even going to post several videos, list a piece of artwork, and namedrop a film to support his argument), you're the one making baseless and uninformed statements. If you have evidence that shows that such humor is out of line, post it and refute what we're saying. Dude, follow your own advice. Read other peoples posts. if you don't believe me then believe Hurlshot....the Japanese would not be normally so sexist I've read all posts in this discussion and have found no evidence presented from anyone but Messhugger. I understand you rely more on feelz than facts, but you're going to have to provide some evidence that Japanese culture is not "normally so sexist" if you want to contest the points Messhugger and I have been making. KP, Hurlshot originally had a more detailed post. I wish he hadn't edited it because he is familiar with Japanese culture Then Hurlshot can come here and contest the point. As of now, no evidence contradicting that the Japanese have a very different understanding of sexuality than the West has been presented. Evidence or GTFO. What you believe doesn't count as proof. You really not thinking logically about this, I have told you several times that mainstream Japanese corporations wouldn't send an update like this So of course I can't produce something that doesn't exist. So maybe you can prove me wrong by producing another update from a Japanese company that demonstrates the same level of insensitivity ? But maybe we having the wrong debate, do you think the update was normal and acceptable ?

Seeing as you've offered no rebuttal to Messhugger and I's assertion that Takaki's special message was in line with Japaense culture(with Messhugger even going to post several videos, list a piece of artwork, and namedrop a film to support his argument), you're the one making baseless and uninformed statements. If you have evidence that shows that such humor is out of line, post it and refute what we're saying. Dude, follow your own advice. Read other peoples posts. if you don't believe me then believe Hurlshot....the Japanese would not be normally so sexist I've read all posts in this discussion and have found no evidence presented from anyone but Messhugger. I understand you rely more on feelz than facts, but you're going to have to provide some evidence that Japanese culture is not "normally so sexist" if you want to contest the points Messhugger and I have been making. KP, Hurlshot originally had a more detailed post. I wish he hadn't edited it because he is familiar with Japanese culture Just for the record I very seldom, if at all, rely on feelings. Almost all my views on based personal experiences and I can substantiate them. The Japanese are one of the most efficient, hard-working and industrialized nations in the world. I accept that there are issues of sexism in there culture but I find it hard to believe that corporations like Honda or Nintendo would allow a corporate update representing there company products and image to be linked with such a sexist update So maybe I need to rephrase, some people in Japan would use such comments but most wouldn't

Seeing as you've offered no rebuttal to Messhugger and I's assertion that Takaki's special message was in line with Japaense culture(with Messhugger even going to post several videos, list a piece of artwork, and namedrop a film to support his argument), you're the one making baseless and uninformed statements. If you have evidence that shows that such humor is out of line, post it and refute what we're saying. Dude, follow your own advice. Read other peoples posts. if you don't believe me then believe Hurlshot....the Japanese would not be normally so sexist Zora can I ask you favor, can you stop constantly saying And once again another inaccurate "comparison " I have no issue with a debate but the sole contribution Zora makes is to feel the need to keep saying " Bruce is a Troll " So this is directly related to me so once again another example of an inane comment that I will sometimes respond to Of course it is completely accurate; once again you dismiss anything called upon you without any introspection. Ever wonder why no one takes you seriously and dismisses you as a troll to begin with? Because the lack of logical coherency in your claims? Because of lack of rationale? Because of avoiding any form of principle? You decide. No, you just making these stupid criticisms about my posting etiquette and I refuse to agree with you I'll just say this once so there is no doubt and I'm mentioning this so you don't feel the need to bring it up again. I don't care if you or anyone else doesn't take me seriously ....do you really think I could have stayed active on a thread like GG if I was expecting a serious discussion from everyone all the time. My reasons for making certain points are based on principle and I''m well aware many people don't agree so they find other ways to dismiss them...like " You don't have principle " or ' you are SJ hypocrite because you go to strip clubs " You musn't worry about if people want to debate with me, I have plenty of interesting debates all the time

Zora can I ask you favor, can you stop constantly saying And once again another inaccurate "comparison " I have no issue with a debate but the sole contribution Zora makes is to feel the need to keep saying " Bruce is a Troll " So this is directly related to me so once again another example of an inane comment that I will sometimes respond to

Zora can I ask you favor, can you stop constantly saying " Bruce is a troll, just ignore him" I'm surprised someone as intelligent and observant as you hasn't realized that the people I debate with know exactly my debating etiquette. We really don't need you to feel you have to keep reminding people You sound like a stuck record and I have ignored it the first 10 times

Exactly my point....but lets not raise the glaring issue with writing such an update. Lets blame the people who point this out with "you don't understand Japanese culture " ( like such a thing would be acceptable in Japan in mainstream Japanese culture ) Oh please, if someone pointed out that Muslims treat women like subhumans you people would be railing against the evil racism of white supremacists. The fact is you have a problem with how the Japanese view sexuality and want then to confirm to your puritanical views on women's bodies. He's also responding to Vol's post. I'm not sure if you are being serious but please stop using words like " puritanical views " and " evil racism of white supremacists " You grandstanding on topics that aren't even accurate ...you are sounding like Nonek How cute. First you claim that Volo has opinions that almost should be illegal and now you're telling other adults on what to say. Atleast real fascists boast that they have the will to power to command over others through might alone. What's your excuse again? I don't need an excuse, I'm not a fascist. You guys just have an issue with hearing the truth and people criticizing inane points that you sometimes make Sniveling away, are we not? Either words or opinions are allowed or not. Either you let people speak or you wish them to shut up. Come on now, out of the closet already. Oh don't misunderstand me, I am completely supportive of people saying what they want But I battle to accept a baseless and uninformed criticism and I will challenge that

Exactly my point....but lets not raise the glaring issue with writing such an update. Lets blame the people who point this out with "you don't understand Japanese culture " ( like such a thing would be acceptable in Japan in mainstream Japanese culture ) Oh please, if someone pointed out that Muslims treat women like subhumans you people would be railing against the evil racism of white supremacists. The fact is you have a problem with how the Japanese view sexuality and want then to confirm to your puritanical views on women's bodies. He's also responding to Vol's post. I'm not sure if you are being serious but please stop using words like " puritanical views " and " evil racism of white supremacists " You grandstanding on topics that aren't even accurate ...you are sounding like Nonek How cute. First you claim that Volo has opinions that almost should be illegal and now you're telling other adults on what to say. Atleast real fascists boast that they have the will to power to command over others through might alone. What's your excuse again? I don't need an excuse, I'm not a fascist. You guys just have an issue with hearing the truth and people criticizing inane points that you sometimes make

Exactly my point....but lets not raise the glaring issue with writing such an update. Lets blame the people who point this out with "you don't understand Japanese culture " ( like such a thing would be acceptable in Japan in mainstream Japanese culture ) Oh please, if someone pointed out that Muslims treat women like subhumans you people would be railing against the evil racism of white supremacists. The fact is you have a problem with how the Japanese view sexuality and want then to confirm to your puritanical views on women's bodies. He's also responding to Vol's post. I'm not sure if you are being serious but please stop using words like " puritanical views " and " evil racism of white supremacists " You grandstanding on topics that aren't even accurate ...you are sounding like Nonek

I'm missing the relevance of this image ?

Exactly my point....but lets not raise the glaring issue with writing such an update. Lets blame the people who point this out with "you don't understand Japanese culture " ( like such a thing would be acceptable in Japan in mainstream Japanese culture )

There is nothing wrong with looking just don't be crass and derogatory afterwards In a strip club obviously you will be looking but you can still treat the girls with respect

You have a vaguely interesting accusation but as usual your premise is so horribly flawed it should almost be illegal I have no issue with him going to a strip club...but writing such a childish and offensive update is just not acceptable in corporate culture and many others. I thought it couldn't be real And you right, I have no issue with what women may say in that example....and if men want to do that its fine, I just won't do it

Why would he make such a strange comment? Is this a joke ? He is dead serious. Stop being so ignorant and judgemental of japanese culture. I doubt anyone would be so offensive That's in line with Japanese culture. Maybe you should check your privilege and not try to force your culture on him. No I don't believe you, and privilege has nothing to do with it. I am talking about universal themes and considerations that resonate with most people You don't understand Japanese culture and are trying to shove your values onto someone else. That's incredibly insulting to the Japanese and you should show them more respect. Thats rich coming from you who claims to " understand " Japanese culture and thinks sexist comments is normal for them....

I did some research and this appears to be his real comment .....what is wrong with this guy?

Why would he make such a strange comment? Is this a joke ? He is dead serious. Stop being so ignorant and judgemental of japanese culture. I doubt anyone would be so offensive That's in line with Japanese culture. Maybe you should check your privilege and not try to force your culture on him. No I don't believe you, and privilege has nothing to do with it. I am talking about universal themes and considerations that resonate with most people

Why would he make such a strange comment? Is this a joke ? He is dead serious. Stop being so ignorant and judgemental of japanese culture. I doubt anyone would be so offensive

Why would he make such a strange comment? Is this a joke ?

Lemme stop you right there cause I refuse to read further: This is so asenine, infantile and counter-intuitive to everything that gets taught about fairness. You are suggesting it is ok to charge me as guilty even without proof. That's exactly what you're doing right now. Grow up. You're just a dime-a-dozen loner on the internet who thinks he's super hip because he's so cynical and critical of others. In reality, it's all you know how to do and the only talent to your name, the end effect being that you make stupid, outrageous statements and stances like this every so often when you're truly limited on stuff to scoff at before stroking your ego about how superior you are for not being like us peons. Yes I'm being a **** right now, no I don't care. You've earned it. Nah you have Baro all wrong Yes hes cynical but he also doesn't suffer fools and can't abide by illogical behavior and false justifications for things.."like I support GG because of..." He is also very intelligent and well informed on certain topics so be aware a debate with him will be challenging

And? What is your point....that there are examples of men getting abused by women....yes we all know that. That has never been the point of contention, its about the fact abuse of women is much more systemic in some places and generally is more common and severe

Seriously there are many good articles on Polygon that discuss many relevant SJ issues Here is one of my favorite, its long but well worth the read http://www.polygon.com/features/2013/12/2/5143856/no-girls-allowed

Nonek you do realize that just because a particular women hasn't experienced sexism in the gaming industry that doesn't mean that sexism doesn't exist in that industry, you know that right? Its not just her though. Jade Raymond said she didn't have much experience with it either, and they are the only established female game devs to have really commented on it. The ones complaining about rampant sexism in the games industry are people who have never held a real game dev job nor produced anything worth a damn. Yes, that doesn't mean there isn't sexism, but if women who have been in the industry for decades haven't had any experiences of note regarding sexism throughout their career, it can't be as rampant as the LW's claim. I can produce an excellent link that was posted on Polygon that goes into great detail around the systemic sexism that has existed for decades in the gaming industry. This is from the publishers as well. I have posted it before but can post it again ? Yes its not rampant but it still exists and Nonek was suggesting it doesn't exist. I was challenging that view Just gonna say, I don't take Polygon seriously at all. I'm gay, and one of their idiots writers made this massive thing about how they'd made some "brave" comment about russia's anti-gay laws and it really just pissed me off. All she ****ing said was "wow the game is so colorful, pretty weird considering the setting, right?" and every ****ing idiot in the journalism industry dropped by her twitter to tip the fedora on her bravery. Me calling out her acting like her off-hand snarky comment had nothing on actual protesters was shrugged off as harassment, by the way. So **** Polygon, and everyone who writes for it. It is factually a trash website. Did you not know this? No I am not opposed to Polygon, they are do represent certain SJ views and raise some good points But like every website sometimes there journalists will write an article that is misplaced and the intention of the article stupefies me Like the review of Witcher 3, the journalist was more concerned with the SJ aspect of the game and criticizing it. So I don't support everything Polygon says or does. And those comments about Russia I also find annoying as they aren't meaningful and smack of populist rhetoric

We made them do it. Nice, so you guys caused a legitimate businessman to face criticism and Internet abuse because of the perceived association with GG And to make things worse he has now sold his company...to a Russian !!! I hope you guys are happy

Fair enough....you right on this one, that poem is definitely not a " feel-good " poem. Its probably not appropriate ?

Even better so its next part of the story...I get bored in remakes and I'm not interested in the history of a series in most cases as I know how it ends. So I always prefer the future of a series as thats unknown