BruceVC

Volo..don't be a class hater...don't resent people who are more successful than you. I respect people who do well due to hard work...we can learn from them

Barti...you should vote on the side of righteousness and advancement ....vote Clinton

2133 what type of government and or ideology do you support or believe in, I know you aren't crazy about the EU but I am interested in your views?

So all you boys that live in the UK can you tell us who you have decided to vote for?

Yeah all politicians have said silly things in the past. This shouldn't negate all the good she has done in the past and the value she can add as the first women president She has the character traits of shrill harpy with a machiavellian bent. Her sex or political affiliation doesn't matter. No, i think it is time that people should pull up their boot straps, accept that there's no free lunch and vote for a candidate that stands for strength, honor, and glory. Preferably running with the following campaign-music: I hope she does get the presidency...I'll be sure to rub your face in it

Who would be an inappropriate woman president? Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann for starters? I get what you're saying. You're using inappropriate to mean "not suitable" whereas I was trying to read it as "not proper". Yeah

Why don't you like Hilary Clinton? She has a wealth of experience in a number of fields

Who would be an inappropriate woman president? Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann for starters?

Yeah all politicians have said silly things in the past. This shouldn't negate all the good she has done in the past and the value she can add as the first women president

No it a real perspective but its an extreme one I do think its silly to say Black Widow is a **** and yet be fine with the playboy antics of Tony Start....yes I know he was joking but this is a sensitive issue some. I wouldn't bother debating this though, I try to focus on SJ issues in RL

Monte the criticism leveled towards Joss has been criticized by most of us including people who support numerous SJ initiatives like me I just wish you wouldn't generalize and associate all SJW with the people who attacked him, its unfair and inaccurate

Hilary Clinton of course, she rocks and its time the USA had an appropriate women president I am just disappointed that most of you guys don't seem to like her? Why is that

Thats actually a very valid point ...why waste the hardware ? Just because you guys are the richest country in the world it doesn't mean you have to throw away money ?

Nice one, good gesture

It's still a valid concern if they are being called for things they are not needed for as well as if the SWAT members are not up to snuff and disciplined, LAPD's is probably one of the best in the US, but some smaller city in Oklahoma may just let any cop wanting to be an Operator in. SWAT is just a weapon, you have to be concerned about how readily that weapon's drawn. Fair enough, but I would have assumed the criteria to join SWAT is stringent? So surly they wouldn't just accept anyone from any police force?

Which is EXACTLY why I don't use Twitter..it offers this mainly superficial form of communication that has less control over it than basically any other type of social media and it can become this absolute cesspool of vitriol and bedlam that leaves you shocked and confused how people can be so brazen and obnoxious when they are behind this wall of " anonymity " Its seems to draw the worst personalities from the Internet....the true trolls and digital reprobates And of course this doesn't apply to everyone who uses Twitter

You broke my precious links. ;C My point is that a) militarized SWAT teams are deployed at the drop of a hat and b) they don't **** around and people often die, not necessarily the bad guys (assuming there are bad guys present at all). If you aren't worried about those two factors combined in a school environment... I don't know what to say to you. If there is a shooter situation at your school, the lockdown protocols themselves are more likely to prevent fatalities than a bunch of trigger-happy Delta wannabes dropping by 10-12 minutes later. Nah it doesn't worry me at all, I would trust the SWAT to do there job...thats what they train for Also those statistics in your link aren't that bad so I don't see using SWAT as a mistake especially considering the violent history around brutal attacks on schools in America. I'll trust SWAT any day over a Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold

Keep us updated on your progress, what are you planning to use it for ? Private channels or will it be public on some levels ?

No its still not clear on what you are saying. I keep getting told there is no grey area on free speech, either a country supports it or it doesn't Yet you admit in the UK that there have been attacks on free speech and people prosecuted, yet you say this is a nuanced situation? So what is it ..are you simply saying " the UK no longer supports free speech " or are you saying " the UK supports free speech but not in every scenario " Maybe someone else can explain your point to me because its full of contradictions from where I sit ?

I always strive to be reasonable, rational and moderate, i'm not some one note troll. I truly support free speech, I do not just say so and then suggest we devalue it like an idiot would. As to the recent multiple arrests for online comments, this is a hypocritical and dangerous precedent, millions of equal or worse comments go unpunished, and there is no parity or equality in whom is prosecuted. There are actual laws being broken every day that go unpunished, such as use of prostitution, drug dealing, tax avoidance, and assault, as well as societal problems that should be addressed first such as the working classes growing dependance on food banks to survive, the growing number of suicides amongst young men, and the ghettos that blight once industrious pleasant towns. To target verbal onslaughts above these very real problems is both idiotic and reprehensible, and caters to the fashionable hate culture developing around the virtual world that some choose to support. The United Kingdom has for a long time now been indulging in a steady attack on basic personal liberties and freedoms that were hard fought for and won, under the guise of tightening security against a threat that is not as serious as many we have weathered before, many Englishmen and Britons have and still do point this out as a growing concern. But lets focus on my question, are you saying as someone who lives in the UK " the UK doesn't support true free speech " ? Read the answer i've already provided, it supports free speech on the whole, but is facing growing challenges from idiots whom want to undermine personal freedoms and foist a nanny state upon us. Why do I have to explain everything twice to you Bruce? It's like debating with a ten year old, you can't really be this stupid can you? Oh no I really am that stupid, you know that by now But lets leave the insults for a few minutes and get back to the debate, I thought the principle of free speech was inviolable ..either you have it as a society or not? We have both agreed that in the UK there have cases of people being prosecuted for expressing free speech..so are you now saying a society can still say it believes in free speech even if it contradicts this by charging people for comments ...like we are seeing in the UK? In the USA I don't know of anyone prosecuted just for Twitter comments ?

Having worked on a farm as a lad i've never seen the point of the disdain for swine, they're actually quite clean, tidy and fastidious in their pens. I assume it's the mudbaths that they indulge in that bothered early Muslims. Putting that aside however i've been looking up the organisation that backed this display today, the ADSF or something, they're a nationalist group similar to the English Defence League (National Front by any other name,) and in fact their leader a young lady was barred from entering Britain recently to speak at an EDF rally. It was clearly an incitement and villification but I still say that they are well within their rights to stage it, and would defend their free speech. However to ensure parity I would also stage a display on Islamic history, achievements, philosophy, mathematics, astronomy, medicine, culture and languages, as well as the cultures that were present before Muhammed came to the mountain. Teach, display and wave in the faces of such people as the previous organisers how much the cradle of civilisation has gifted the world, and how much later civilisation were unknowingly or not influenced by their cultures. As a last resort throw on some Harryhausen Sinbad films and enjoy the tales that entranced many a child of my era. I think this would be a more appropriate response personally. Mmm.... a reasonable post from you Nonek and one I agree with, its a strange thing for me to see Nonek you said earlier that Freedom of Speech is basically a foundation of Western cultures which as you know I support and believe in In the UK there have been several cases of people being prosecuted for Twitter comments especially when it comes to racist comments. How do you reconcile this ? Does the UK not believe in free speech because by prosecuting people who just make Twitter comments isn't this a contradiction to saying "we believe in free speech " ? I always strive to be reasonable, rational and moderate, i'm not some one note troll. I truly support free speech, I do not just say so and then suggest we devalue it like an idiot would. As to the recent multiple arrests for online comments, this is a hypocritical and dangerous precedent, millions of equal or worse comments go unpunished, and there is no parity or equality in whom is prosecuted. There are actual laws being broken every day that go unpunished, such as use of prostitution, drug dealing, tax avoidance, and assault, as well as societal problems that should be addressed first such as the working classes growing dependance on food banks to survive, the growing number of suicides amongst young men, and the ghettos that blight once industrious pleasant towns. To target verbal onslaughts above these very real problems is both idiotic and reprehensible, and caters to the fashionable hate culture developing around the virtual world that some choose to support. The United Kingdom has for a long time now been indulging in a steady attack on basic personal liberties and freedoms that were hard fought for and won, under the guise of tightening security against a threat that is not as serious as many we have weathered before, many Englishmen and Britons have and still do point this out as a growing concern. But lets focus on my question, are you saying as someone who lives in the UK " the UK doesn't support true free speech " ?

Pigs were one of animals that often had parasites in past before better domestication and medicines that were dangerous for humans, which is speculated to be reason why Jews considered them as unclean and I would guess that it was similar reason for early Muslims. But one don't write in holy book that you can't eat this meat because it may make you sick or even kill you, but that some holy power has deemed animal to be unclean/dirty/etc.. And threat from those parasites has not yet fully disappeared. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/05/110502-wild-pigs-parasites-animals-pork-science-health-nation/ Dude NOTHING will stop me eating Pork, I eat all Pork products, nothing quite better than the smell of bacon frying in the morning I don't care about any stinking parasites ..." Pork for President "

Having worked on a farm as a lad i've never seen the point of the disdain for swine, they're actually quite clean, tidy and fastidious in their pens. I assume it's the mudbaths that they indulge in that bothered early Muslims. Putting that aside however i've been looking up the organisation that backed this display today, the ADSF or something, they're a nationalist group similar to the English Defence League (National Front by any other name,) and in fact their leader a young lady was barred from entering Britain recently to speak at an EDF rally. It was clearly an incitement and villification but I still say that they are well within their rights to stage it, and would defend their free speech. However to ensure parity I would also stage a display on Islamic history, achievements, philosophy, mathematics, astronomy, medicine, culture and languages, as well as the cultures that were present before Muhammed came to the mountain. Teach, display and wave in the faces of such people as the previous organisers how much the cradle of civilisation has gifted the world, and how much later civilisation were unknowingly or not influenced by their cultures. As a last resort throw on some Harryhausen Sinbad films and enjoy the tales that entranced many a child of my era. I think this would be a more appropriate response personally. Mmm.... a reasonable post from you Nonek and one I agree with, its a strange thing for me to see Nonek you said earlier that Freedom of Speech is basically a foundation of Western cultures which as you know I support and believe in In the UK there have been several cases of people being prosecuted for Twitter comments especially when it comes to racist comments. How do you reconcile this ? Does the UK not believe in free speech because by prosecuting people who just make Twitter comments isn't this a contradiction to saying "we believe in free speech " ?

Thanks for the detail. I can only comment on the Black Widow aspect and her views on " being a monster" I know women in RL who cannot have children due to some physiological problem and some of them do feel like a failure as a women, its like there is this maternal instinct that says " as a women you have to children by this age to be defined as a real women " and even though they know logically its not there fault they still blame themselves on some subconscious or conscious level. This is despite the fact they are very successful and respected in there personal and public life .So I can understand how the Black Widow may feel that way and considering the fact she is basically a killing machine she sees herself as monster....but Joss is not suggesting all women who cannot have children are monsters. This is a particular example and I see it as very moving and emotional part of the writing as in a way Black Widow is identifying and reaching out to the Hulk...." no need for shame, we are both monsters in our own way " '

So let me get this story straight, the Black Widow character said to the Hulk that she is " also a monster because she can't have children as part of her training included sterilization " This then enraged certain people who had an issue because the Black Widow character has really demeaning to herself because she said " I am a monster because I can't have children " ?