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And I am of the opinion that I'm not obligated to listen to anybody whose contributions to any given conversation start and stop at "add more meaningless noise". alum you know I tend to sometimes ask what you think are random questions but in my world it makes perfect sense How long is your studies to be a doctor? I assume 8 years ? Anyway I know this is something that is a long way off but in South Africa all doctors have to do 2 years practical after there studies. But we also get foreign doctors who request to come to South Africa to work in our trauma units for the experience as my country is unfortunately one of the most violent places in the world I have contacts who can arrange Visas for that type of work so if you wanted to do your practical in South Africa I could almost guarantee you a job, I think you would find your time here very rewarding and stimulating in various way
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Yes of course the USA is by far the strongest military force in the world But some people who don't like Obama think he has made them weak .....he hasn't. He just doesn't feel the need to prove constantly the USA can bomb anyone into oblivion Also Obama has correctly realized that the USA doesn't need to resort to force in places like the Middle East to achieve relative peace
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Oh yes, under five minute break five times (which 2-3 are during typical work hours) of day massively hinders how much work person can do in one day and absolutely prevents all sort career advancing. In South Africa the Muslim community only pray on Fridays at the Mosque I noticed in the Middle East most Muslims but particularly Muslims from the more impoverished countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan they pray 4-5 times a day, this was apparent in Saudi But I would imagine as far as the refugees are concerned living in the EU it would depend on the type of job and education. Muslims in the corporate world cannot expect to pray 4-5 times if it disrupts there work but they would know this....but a laborer who fixes roads wont understand work commitments and work responsibility
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I'm misunderstanding you? What do you mean by a manifestation ? Also are you sure the incident was intentionally covered up?
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Dark I hope you wrong about the standard of education....I doubt thats true in the case of the Syrians? The 5 prayers a day is not an issue and also you must realize integration in my opinion just means the refugees need to find jobs and not live off social grants ....no one expects everyone to suddenly be friends unless you want to Like that video that Meshugger posted where those Muslim kids were saying " we don't want to be friends with Germans " ....those kids misunderstand something. You wont be friends with people unless you have something in common . Muslims, Christians and anyone else can happily live together they just need to respect each other
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But what do you think Sanders can or will do that you like, I'm genuiely interested in the appeal because I am missing what he offers the USA?
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Hate to break it to you, but interventionism isn't something the US can be expected to do in moderation. It's all or nothing. Either the US doesn't get involved in foreign affairs or it doesn't want foreigners to blink without our knowledge and consent. Oh, and the government is comically incompetent too so expect us to constantly make the world more unstable and dysfunctional. Ros you know I respect your view and really admire the Swedish economic and social model but what many people in Western countries don't seem to realize is just how key the USA has been in ensuring Western countries dont have to worry about military threats from places like Russia Now I'm not suggesting that if the USA suddenly vanished Putin would invade the EU but the reality is the USA represents much more than just some " annoying interfering global policeman " ....its is needed to ensure stability to certain things we take for granted. So there will still be times when the USA will intervene even though it may not make sense
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People like Sanders actually annoy me, he panders to this view that the enemy in the USA is " big business " Yes we all acknowledge about the 2008 crisis and its reasons but people like Sanders think that somehow carving up and trying to get government to control these corporations will actually be beneficial to the overall USA economy I'm not sure how he thinks this would be implemented but lets not now give this idea of socialism too much credit when it comes to industry like the financial sector
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Ah okay, that makes sense. But why is Volo even on your ignore list..I have to assume you had some debate with him in the past where he must have annoyed me
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Yeah that type of thing really irritates me, people want to bad mouth me thats fine but dont feel now obliged to come to my funeral
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Volo ...you funny You know alum by now and you know very well that these are type of comments that he is least likely to respond to I understand thats what you feel feminism represents but thats because you have a very negative view of Feminist ideals and I believe this is because its how it comes across on the Internet but in RL feminism is a good thing Malc how are the Syrians doing in Canada? Any issues, whats the general sentiment? Also I am particularly interested in how the various governments intergrate them in the economy...I want to know how many of them end up working because that I feel is the real sign of success
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Comments like this always baffle me since this is the polar opposite of what the "feminist discourse" is about. Yes you right, he is associating the views of radical feminists with all feminists But many people tend to do that on the Internet, IMO it comes from the fact many people tend to focus on the negative of something and thats all they see
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What are the justifications for it? Good question Australia has become a very successful and admired society, many people want to or would love to immigrate there Its not for me as I think your laws are too strict but I completely understand why you guys are admired. Yes you going through some tough economic structural changes nowadays due to the Chinese slowdown but you will survive Anyway Australia has some very strict laws around entry and immigration process, this is understandable as if there were lax entry requirements you would be swamped by people arriving on boats from several countries who are your neighbors but there governments have failed to provide economic opportunities so many of there citizens look to live and find work somewhere else ...and Oz becomes the preferred destination Now Oz does accept foreigners but you need to prove you can contribute and many people support the strict entry requirements so imagine a reality if the thousands of people arriving on boats were just " given citizenship " because they landed on the shoreline The system that binds your entire immigration process would be undermined...so there is a reasonable argument that says " we cannot just accept anyone who arrives...especially arriving illegally " Hence the Island becomes an option. So you could support that type of deportation for exactly the reason you believe in the system...and not the fact you just don't like people from Afghanistan
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Baro please just this once dont assume I am trying to catch you out, I just want your view Its not a straight forward question as I know many people who live in Oz who support the policy and they not racist like my cousins...so I won't assume " if you are liberal then you must be opposed to it " ..its nuanced There is some justification for it
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Why? Okay, thats one way of not having to address this injustice Wait, let me not assume. Do you think this policy is reasonable?
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" cancerous and rampant feminism " Geeez Drowsy are you also opposed to feminism? What about if someone says I support gender equality....would you see this as cancerous By the way you make some interesting points and some I agree with, its just you generally tend to frame your points in a way where as someone who supports SJ I cannot agree with. But Im sure you don't need me to support you anyway Equality yes, special treatment no. The whole feminist discourse that all men are barely contained rapists and that women are always the victims is cancer and bad for both genders. Yes, I get that I didn't use to understand why you guys cared about that because I don't believe it that but I have realized I was arrogant to assume you guys were exaggerating and it was wrong of me to ignore issues that white people raise.....but you must realize because of Apartheid its very hard for me to see white, males as victims typically....even though sometimes they are
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Nope. It's nice to be all tucked away down here. Okay....but how do you feel about the way immigrants who arrive illegally are sent to that Jungle Island hellhole ?
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Baro you must feel very guilty living in Oz...whats it like to feel that kind of guilt? Is that why you tend to sometimes stop debating with people
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" cancerous and rampant feminism " Geeez Drowsy are you also opposed to feminism? What about if someone says I support gender equality....would you see this as cancerous By the way you make some interesting points and some I agree with, its just you generally tend to frame your points in a way where as someone who supports SJ I cannot agree with. But Im sure you don't need me to support you anyway
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Just embrace apathy my friend. We're all ****ed. No we not, I have several very constructive and accurate views on the state of the world and the West Everything is fine. Yes the world does indeed face some risk but its not from the likes of ISIS. The Chinese economic slowdown potentially could trigger a recession or 2008...that is something we need to watch
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Guys I tell you what I would to discuss in a reasonable way is the actual integration of Muslims into any Western country, how has it been before these refugees in your respective countries? I will comment after I see what you guys think
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Dont you think it can change when they became majority? Well that is almost impossible in any Western country and then they would have to change the Constitution of there adopted country Do you seriously think somehow Muslim refugees are going to become the dominant group in any European country? I dont think there are enough of them and the EU would never allow that number of refugees in to any country
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Oh just to clarify something, when I said " most Muslims would prefer Sharia law" this doesn't mean they expect Western countries to change or they will work surreptitiously to change the current law . No they realize they live in a country that obviously isn't Islamic ....but they still can have there preference
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I feel you need something to back up this claim. It's like saying most christians would like to ban sex before marriage. Some certainly would, but most? Very doubtful. Why wouldn't your average Muslim want Sharia law? Its the basic law for Islam...this is not a criticism of Muslims but this is what many of them would naturally think is best. I have traveled and worked throughout the Middle East and I have engaged in many debates with Muslims and many of them think Sharia is an effective system It may just be my experience?
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I live in the most multicultural part of Denmark, smack in the middle of what most would call a "ghetto" - so I have front row to this crime - and see how utterly exaggerated it is on social media and in the news. The thing is however - it's precisely the same as when I lived in a predominately poor white neighborhood, except without the media attention. Most would say it's very marxist of me, but as a result I see it much more as a monetary and socio-economic issue than a racial or cultural one. I waging that your use of dialectic materialism hinders you to asses the situation correctly. Always a friendly reminder: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/ Meshugger you are giving the Muslim community in Western countries far too much influence Of course most Muslims would like Sharia law implemented...but that doesn't mean it will happen. In South Africa I see this all the time, South African Muslims on the various radio stations phone and indirectly suggest that No one listens to it, people are entitled to there opinion. Sharia will never become enforced in Western countries unless Muslims become the majority and change the Constitution ...and that wont happen so dont worry about that happening
