BruceVC

Oby its exactly because these countries aren't following Western values that we are in this mess to begin with. So the ME is facing the likes of ISIS because of the lack of Democratic institutions and disregard of basic human rights and the myopic view that certain governments aren't inclusive of all there citizens Don't blame the West for that

It is difficult to detect sarcasm in text, but I was pointing and laughing at those that develop a quivering lip over the plight of the criminals. Yes it was clear you were being sarcastic and it made me laugh

Yes, it is felt he should have no sympathy as the victim is the 22 year old lady and not the 15 year old Somalian who killed her It is hard to find any sympathy for the Somalian refugee

Nope its not in English, so I have no idea what he is saying. Sorry

I know this isn't true but it made me laugh...can you imagine some sort of presentation in a conservative state in the USA or in the EU where the local government is trying to motivate the fact that the local people need to see the benefits of having refugees arrive in there area Page 11 : Also having these refugees in your area will allow you to become desensitized to murder and rape Can you imagine how this will be received But just to explain why this statement may seem valid but its not. In South Africa the reality is we have such high crime because of the long term impact of Apartheid and how it has impacted some black South Africans....so the people who commit this crime in SA are products of the psychological and insidious legacy of Apartheid. And most of the crime is against black South Africans In the case of the refugees I will be honest...some of them due to years of exposure to war will be mentally unbalanced and yes they will also commit crime. But this will never be as severe as the impact of Apartheid which lasted 50 years

Volo there are 250 million white people in the USA ....we are just talking about one of them being killed. Stop trying to scare WOD and the other USA members. The Muslim extremist won't kill all the white people in the USA !!! They'll just kill some of us. Bruce, once in a while you say something truly idiotic. This kind of thing happens every day. I personally knew someone randomly murdered by an illegal alien who had previously been deported many times. May be in SA you don't care when someone is murdered, but in the USA we still do. In other news, nothing to see here, move along: http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/ Well of course we care but we are desensitized to the overall crime or most South Africans would be suffering from some sort of nervous breakdown We have about 49 murders a day, is that a lot? Its weird WOD but I have no idea if I should think this is bad..I feel nothing? Yet you are concerned about 1 murder. So either you are exaggerating your feelings as you are frustrated with the reason for this murder or I am really desensitized ....and if so is this a bad thing? *Updated my Bruce.txt* I have been quite concerned about this whole " if I am desensitized to this number of murders...does this mean I may have some sort of mental block or hidden psychological problem" I have been chatting to some guys at one of my customers now and basically asking " how come we are almost nonchalant about this appalling murder rate, one murder in Texas is enough to noticeably upset the residents there " We all agree that all South Africans must be use to subconsciously desensitizing the crime, its a coping mechanism. And the way I see it if all of us are doing it then I shouldn't be worried about some sort of mental issue It just shows how an entire country can mentally cope with the thought of this type of crime ...our minds are amazing

Volo there are 250 million white people in the USA ....we are just talking about one of them being killed. Stop trying to scare WOD and the other USA members. The Muslim extremist won't kill all the white people in the USA !!! They'll just kill some of us. Bruce, once in a while you say something truly idiotic. This kind of thing happens every day. I personally knew someone randomly murdered by an illegal alien who had previously been deported many times. May be in SA you don't care when someone is murdered, but in the USA we still do. In other news, nothing to see here, move along: http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/ Well of course we care but we are desensitized to the overall crime or most South Africans would be suffering from some sort of nervous breakdown We have about 49 murders a day, is that a lot? Its weird WOD but I have no idea if I should think this is bad..I feel nothing? Yet you are concerned about 1 murder. So either you are exaggerating your feelings as you are frustrated with the reason for this murder or I am really desensitized ....and if so is this a bad thing?

Good idea, this is actually how I normally play a game like this If I used the core rules then I would over-analyze the game and also its more exciting this way I would say that it would help you understand several concepts that game uses, even though it isn't one-to-one copy of table top rules, but it is close enough. Thanks Elerond but Gromnirs suggested is ideal for me

But GD end of the day you guys know me ...plus I have a 10 year USA VISA?

Have you ever been to Afghanistan? I honesty suggest you never trawl for these types of articles in Afghanistan or Pakistan If you have been shocked by how the Syrian refugees seem to lack basic cultural insight then the types of stories you will find in these countries will just depress you. We are talking about people that live in the mountains and have no regard for the value of life unless you support them in there campaigns Don't do it to yourself

torment is set a billion (or some such silliness) years in future. "caucasian" is therefore meaningless. Basically this. On Numenera, a billion years' worth of evolution, purposeful genetic tampering and changes even weirder in origin mean that the residents simply don't map to current racial phenotypes. On the other hand, you can totally be a blue space babe (well, you can't, since this is a CRPG with a semi-fixed protagonist, but in the tabletop version, you can). I think it's pretty clever. Okay lets be serious now ....I didn't realize you have played the tabletop game. What is it like.,.,..how many monsters are there? There are rules 45 different creatures in core rule book, but there are dozes accessory books that bring lots more. And T:ToN set in bit different section than tabletop game and it brings more new creatures with it. That sounds awesome ....I funded this game but I have been avoiding reading anything about it Do you think I should learn the rules from the core book before playing the game?

...Define "monster"? Like D&D ...a bestiary basically. Beholders, Wyverns ....different beasts

And I stopped reading right there ........ Okay you know me well...well played

torment is set a billion (or some such silliness) years in future. "caucasian" is therefore meaningless. Basically this. On Numenera, a billion years' worth of evolution, purposeful genetic tampering and changes even weirder in origin mean that the residents simply don't map to current racial phenotypes. On the other hand, you can totally be a blue space babe (well, you can't, since this is a CRPG with a semi-fixed protagonist, but in the tabletop version, you can). I think it's pretty clever. Okay lets be serious now ....I didn't realize you have played the tabletop game. What is it like.,.,..how many monsters are there?

You can't, white males are extinct (this is also true to every other skin-color/ethnicity - gender combination that exist today). Although some could argue that main protagonist look quite bit like white male/female Are you being serious ? I have to be honest I don't consider you as someone who jokes a lot .... Why would they make white, males extinct ? torment is set a billion (or some such silliness) years in future. "caucasian" is therefore meaningless. HA! Good Fun! Gromnir you dont think thats racist? Think about what they suggesting.....that in a Billion years white people would be extinct ?

Final seal is broken ...... Who are you planning on voting for .... As it stands right now? None of the above ...... Okay, this is serendipitous...I have a really good idea I really want to vote but I cant and you don't want to vote but you can So why don't you become my proxy and vote for me...I'll obviously decide who we vote for but of course as usual I will consider your input. For you this is a win-win because you are still technically voting which is your patriotic responsibly yet you will have no chance of making the wrong choice as you aren't really deciding? My plan is genius .....everyone else will want to copy us but I believe in loyalty so I'll stick by you

You can't, white males are extinct (this is also true to every other skin-color/ethnicity - gender combination that exist today). Although some could argue that main protagonist look quite bit like white male/female Are you being serious ? I have to be honest I don't consider you as someone who jokes a lot .... Why would they make white, males extinct ?

Volo no offense but you Canadians seem to lack the patriotism of our American members, its like those students who had never heard of Yoga Class.....its sad how little the young people know nowadays

Final seal is broken ...... Who are you planning on voting for ....I'm not sure we have discussed this before? I know you normally vote Republican?

Gfted1 ....come now. This is a SJ forum, why would you insult people by allowing them to create a white, male protagonist? You remember how we all grapple with white guilt....we NEVER want to be reminded about our race

I'm not going to vote for Clinton either, but I think its possible she could get the eventual nod; I just don't think that Trump can. I could be wrong, of course. Okay guys but before you say " I'll will never vote for Clinton " what about a reality where its Trump vs Clinton?

Hurlshot I am very glad you raised this, I have saying this for months and yet all you guys seemed almost unconcerned. Clinton seemed like a more popular target Even now I think the likelihood of Trump actually getting out of the primaries and becoming the party nominee is fairly small. That may change if he does well in the early caucus states, but my gut tells me that people aren't actually going to vote for him. Yes I like this, also I am very confidant the Democratic candidate with destroy him...the minorities will make him pay

Okay so lets say you were in charge of the EU What would you do about the refugee crisis., and you can do anything you want and pass any law but lets be realistic. So for example you can't say " well I would insist on putting all the refugees in a work camp " The reason I ask you is you guys seem to suggest there is a solution that the EU hasnt considered ?

Hurlshot I am very glad you raised this, I have saying this for months and yet all you guys seemed almost unconcerned. Clinton seemed like a more popular target And I don't mean to spread additional concern but he is much worse than you think, he is really disliked outside the USA I wasn't joking when I said if he becomes president he will take the USA backwards. Some of you guys think Obama is a bad president ....Trump will end up being worse

Elerond how would Trump be viewed if he was PM in Finland ?