BruceVC

Just got back from a boozy afternoon drinking session followed by an awesome dinner with friends , I had Veal ...it was scrumptious http://www.caraffa.co.za/

Of course I didn't support those female celeb photos...that was an invasion of the various celebrities personal world

That's because you've never attempted to understand the legal issues. There is no inconsistency whatsoever. Despite claims by some others that Free Speech is all inclusive, it is NOT. There are notable exceptions (including Libel and Slander for starters) to the "Free Speech" protections offered under the First Amendment. What Gawker did was not protected under the first amendment. You should read up on Invasion of Privacy and the concepts of Public Disclosure of Private Facts, Intrusion, False Light, and Appropriation although iirc the latter two are not pertinent to the Gawker Case but I'll defer on that to the lawyers. Anyway, some study material for you: http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/privacy-newsgathering http://scholarship.law.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2503&context=lawreview http://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2104&context=faculty_publications And two excerpts: The Public disclosure of Private Facts: and Intrusion: I'll hand off to Gromnir for any further discussion of the issues. Thanks for the information and you are right, I have never attempted to understand the legal issues...its gets overly complicated and everyone seems to have different views But my point is more about the overall impact of Gawker being sued and now filing for bankruptcy Why not fire the editor and person who found the initial story? That way Gawker will learn its lesson, why is the entire company now being punished for a bad article...people who had nothing to do with the editorial decision to post the video could now be unemployed....it doesn't seem fair or just

Nice, I never knew that about you. All these years ( well 4 years) of chatting to you and I don't think you have ever mentioned that. Do you ever go home ?

Many of you guys seem genuinely happy that Gawker will be filing for bankruptcy...people will be losing there jobs, there are people who may have families to support? Volo\Meshugger what about free speech and supporting companies and businesses that believe in the principle of free speech like Gawker. Just because we dont like what they say does this mean they dont have a right to say it? I'm seeing a degree of inconsistency around how some people view Gawker, it seems to me its like we say believe in the importance of free speech but not if they say things we dont like ?

Okay I hadn't read it and started now but I see it makes some serious accusations against Hilary, I need time to go through it properly but I will respond

Back home? Where are you from Malc ?

Yes I agree, lets have this debate with the facts and surly people can state why she would be worse than Trump.... It must be one of the most preposterous statements I have ever heard so I am keen to understand this logic more

GD if you dont think Hilary Clinton cares about the well being of USA citizens do you agree Trump also doesn't care? Why does that matter? He doesn't support Trump either Patience young grasshopper, I was building to a certain point ...see the post above

GD if you dont think Hilary Clinton cares about the well being of USA citizens do you agree Trump also doesn't care? Completely agree. I believe each may have one or two principles they believe in but at the end of the day they are all about themselves. But then we faced with a conundrum, a real problem. Lets say you are right and neither candidate cares about the well being of US citizens...what would you tell, for example, the millions of people who believe Trump when he says " I want to make the USA great again " ...how would you even raise the subject that everything they believe about Trump is false....and many of his supporters do believe he cares about the USA and its citizens ? Can we even raise the truth to many supporters on both sides....do they even care or can you really convince people that " Trump\Clinton dont care of you really " ?

GD if you dont think Hilary Clinton cares about the well being of USA citizens do you agree Trump also doesn't care?

Tell us more, what is it like living in Russia? http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/25/worrying-data-raise-russia-recession-odds-economist.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/01/11/russias-recession-may-stick-around-longer-as-ruble-weakens/#219d8ca0241b http://www.dw.com/en/russias-recession-woes-deepen-amid-oil-slump/a-18990311 I asked about living there. As in social networks, culture, possibility to self-fulfillment, security, access to healthcare, raising a family and such. But instead you're saying that poverty is the best punishment? Ok. I would say that's quite the most frivolous answer one can make. No I'm saying nothing of the sort, the economic reality of Russia is a fault of Putin's failure to diversify the economy This is his fault for not understanding or just not caring about how to sustain an economy outside of commodity exports like oil The economic recession Russia is in effects negatively all aspects of Russian society, so yes once again to make my point " Russia at the moment isn't a good place to be living in because of the economic reality " This is not hard to understand and it isnt the slightest bit frivolous, economic data is never frivolous And this is who Snowden betrayed the USA to and yes it was a mistake and yes he should now continue to live in Russia

GD ...thats a terrible thing to say about Hilary Clinton, of course she cares?

Tell us more, what is it like living in Russia? http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/25/worrying-data-raise-russia-recession-odds-economist.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/01/11/russias-recession-may-stick-around-longer-as-ruble-weakens/#219d8ca0241b http://www.dw.com/en/russias-recession-woes-deepen-amid-oil-slump/a-18990311

Please explain how her words apply to Snowden but not to herself. Did she break the law? Yes. She blatantly mishandled classified documents in a manner that should've been painfully obvious to her, and she did so with what appears to be the direct intent of circumventing laws regarding documentation and processing of such documents. Has information fallen into the wrong hands? Russia sure insists it did. But this hypocrite is apparently a super qualified person to lead this country because hot damn she has a vagina. Yeah ok. Snowden is a traitor and deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail but he can live out the rest of his days is his " Russian heaven" ..by now he would have realized the false image Putin has been projecting is nothing compared to the reality of actually living in Russia compared to the USA. So I say never let him be able to return home...having to live in countries like Russia is fitting punishment And the two examples are NOTHING alike, I am genuinely surprised you can find commonality between them, this just demonstrates your bias towards Hilary as you are using such a low bar Hilary had her own email domain for convenience reasons around using things like certain devices. It should have been addressed by White House security but it was allowed to continue She didnt do it to attack or undermine the entire USA Snowden worked at the NSA and deliberately stole confidential information and then shared it with foreign countries who have numerous reasons to undermine the USA . He knowingly did this and knew this had serious consequences in an attempt to undermine the entire security system of the USA. He is a traitor, this should be unequivocal. Hilary Clinton is nothing like Snowden, she is no traitor and is a patriot and cares for the well being of the USA

No, we vote for any candidate that can do the job..its just as additional bonus Hilary is a women And yes being a strong and independent person who is a president matters on certain levels

Yes, I have found your general disdain for both candidates to be consistent

we know why there is no water: they closed the valves. what we don't know and nobody bothered to inform anyone about is the reason they closed the valves In South Africa until about 6 months ago we use to have electricity outages that lasted 4 hours or so every 3 rd day, people assume not having electricity is the worst thing Its not, water outages or disruptions to water is worse. Everything starts smelling and becomes dirty when you have no water...so I truly empathize with you

The Signal and the Noise... Talking about creative interpretation of data. But hey, the Golden State Warriors broke the all time wins record at 73 this past season. But you know what, they won 22 games where they didn't blow out their opponent by 10 points. Let's move those victories into the tie column since they were so close. So in essence, the Warriors only won 51 games this year... Here are the facts and my noteworthy interpretation of the data. Hillary Clinton currently has 2,203 pledged delegates to Bernie Sanders's 1,828. It's worth noting that the margin of victory is almost 400. Clinton won 33 contests. Sanders won 23. It's worth noting that this is a double digit victory. Clinton received 16,015,681 votes. Sanders 12,287,030 votes. It's worth noting that the margin of victory is almost 4 million votes. Clinton won 55.6% of the vote. Sanders won 42.7%. It's worth noting that the margin of victory is almost 13%. Guys these are the facts, can we focus on the Clinton victory and at least try to recognize the historical victory? Very few people on this forum have celebrated the fact the Clinton nomination has set a historical precedent. This is the first time a women has been nominated for a major US political party, I may need to repeat this for maximum emphasis " This is the first time a women has been nominated for the US president " ..... This is a huge and visible step for gender equality amongst other things, I can't speak for other white males but I have to say when I look at who represents us in the current US system and I see Trump I get embarrassed that Trump somehow has become the person who is " going to make the US great again " .. Anyway I would be supporting Hilary anyway even if I was a US citizen and I look forward to her 4 years as president But guys back to the original point...can we show a little enthusiasm for the Clinton nomination and what its represents for the positive social changes we are seeing throughout the USA? Being female does not qualify her for President. I'm not going to vote for her because of her gender. I didn't vote against Barack Obama because of his skin color. I voted against him because he is an ideologue and he scared the bejesus out of me. No he has not turned out to the the tyrannical horror I was afraid of him being but he has definitely harmed the cause of federalism, individual liberty and personal freedom in the country. He has changed the relationship of the federal government and the citizens in a way that will last long after he has left office. That is not a good thing. Now a power hungry self confessed "government junkie" (her own words) is promising more of the same, more war, more government, less freedom and all you can think about is the fact it's a woman? No thank you. There are plenty of women how would make outstanding Presidents. Nikki Haley and Susanne Martinez would get my vote today over Trump. Joni Earnst & Mia Love would be excellent choices once they get a little more experience. Bruce you need to get past this whole "identity politics" b------t. O Of course no one is suggesting she should be president because she is a women, she should be president because she has the experience, she is qualified and she represents a better future for the US than Trump and she is nomination from the Democratic party You have some perfectly understandable criticism, even if I don't personally support it, towards Hilary. For example the significance of the email scandal which we have discussed. But IMO many people on this forum seem to spend a lot attacking Hilary and her policies yet Trumps constant divisive comments and overall destabilizing views on the how to " make the USA great " again get ignored or justified And to be honest I have waited for this nomination to become more vocal about my support for Hilary but it would be a refreshing change if we could refrain from comments like " Clinton will be never be the next president " or " she is a criminal , she cannot be the next president " Its just the unsubstantiated " anti-Clinton" rhetoric that gets tiresome and is surprising considering the actual reality of the voting results and what the majority of the citizens want

The Signal and the Noise... Talking about creative interpretation of data. But hey, the Golden State Warriors broke the all time wins record at 73 this past season. But you know what, they won 22 games where they didn't blow out their opponent by 10 points. Let's move those victories into the tie column since they were so close. So in essence, the Warriors only won 51 games this year... Here are the facts and my noteworthy interpretation of the data. Hillary Clinton currently has 2,203 pledged delegates to Bernie Sanders's 1,828. It's worth noting that the margin of victory is almost 400. Clinton won 33 contests. Sanders won 23. It's worth noting that this is a double digit victory. Clinton received 16,015,681 votes. Sanders 12,287,030 votes. It's worth noting that the margin of victory is almost 4 million votes. Clinton won 55.6% of the vote. Sanders won 42.7%. It's worth noting that the margin of victory is almost 13%. Guys these are the facts, can we focus on the Clinton victory and at least try to recognize the historical victory? Very few people on this forum have celebrated the fact the Clinton nomination has set a historical precedent. This is the first time a women has been nominated for a major US political party, I may need to repeat this for maximum emphasis " This is the first time a women has been nominated for the US president " ..... This is a huge and visible step for gender equality amongst other things, I can't speak for other white males but I have to say when I look at who represents us in the current US system and I see Trump I get embarrassed that Trump somehow has become the person who is " going to make the US great again " .. Anyway I would be supporting Hilary anyway even if I was a US citizen and I look forward to her 4 years as president But guys back to the original point...can we show a little enthusiasm for the Clinton nomination and what its represents for the positive social changes we are seeing throughout the USA?

Apparently, these boards are not quite a representation of the general and diverse American voting public. It appears that way, when do you think Sanders will throw in the towel? I hear he will be meeting Obama this week

You still think Trump can beat Hilary? There is no chance of that ...I thought we were all in agreement on that political reality ?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/07/politics/primary-results-highlights/ Guys what an amazing night, it must be so exciting to be a US citizen and to be part of this historical moment The first female presidential nominee, well done Hilary !!!

Generally you can tell if I'm joking as I was with the military post But I didn't say people should be prosecuted for " thinking wrong " but yes they should be prosecuted in places like South Africa for severe racist comments in public arenas and social media. We dont want people being part of SA society if they still make comments like this....and I'm not joking about that http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/07/south-africa-penny-sparrow-apartheid-nostalgia-racist

Yeah I see your point and I agree with you, I can also see you finding permanent employment at a McDonalds