BruceVC

This is actually more relevant than you may realize. Many people considering remembering or asking for names as extremely important, I am terrible with names at times and this can be very embarrassing if you have a sales role so I worked out effective ways to get someones name so you dont look silly In this case I would say something " thanks for the chat the other day, I enjoyed it. Whats your name by the way, I am Malc" This way you are recognising the conversation as relevant but you also want to introduce yourself Well my initial concern was why she was talking to me so was off guard. Only people begging for change or psychos talk to me first I have different customers and I am always talking to people, its not uncommon to have an initial chat to someone that could be quite long and interesting yet forget to ask each others names Sometimes the chat is enough and I dont get the persons name but if its more significant then I ask peoples names. And generally its always me who has to introduce first when I talk to strangers

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This is actually more relevant than you may realize. Many people considering remembering or asking for names as extremely important, I am terrible with names at times and this can be very embarrassing if you have a sales role so I worked out effective ways to get someones name so you dont look silly In this case I would say something " thanks for the chat the other day, I enjoyed it. Whats your name by the way, I am Malc" This way you are recognising the conversation as relevant but you also want to introduce yourself

http://www.thewrap.com/cnn-instant-poll-hands-debate-victory-to-mike-pence-over-tim-kaine/ So the general consensus is Pence won the debate over Kaine. This doesn't change people's view on who to vote for in the presidential debate as it applies to VP only Probably not. Now if Pence were the Presidential Candidate it might. Probably best not think of roads not taken. It will only depress us further. I meant to agree with you earlier and say I think Pence would be a better choice for president for the GOP, he has real control of his emotions and makes certain cogent points. Its a pity he had to spend a fair amount of time depending Trump in the VP debate. You noticed he didnt allow himself to get distracted by some of Kaines valid comments about what Trump has been saying. I do think he is a better candidate than Trump I really like Kaine but I dont think he is the better or stronger choice for the Democrats than Hilary

I started watching Westworld from HBO, as usual almost anything from HBO is excellent and this seems to be following the same formulae. Here is the trailer if you haven't seen it

http://www.thewrap.com/cnn-instant-poll-hands-debate-victory-to-mike-pence-over-tim-kaine/ So the general consensus is Pence won the debate over Kaine. This doesn't change people's view on who to vote for in the presidential debate as it applies to VP only

The sad thing is, no one will care. This won't matter. That's because it's not about him. It's about stopping Clinton. The same it true with her. If Wikileaks releases proof she took a bribe in the Uranium One fiasco it won't matter because half of the country already thinks she did. The supporters of either candidate do not love them. Far from it. They the hate the other candidate more. It really is the epitome of electoral dysfunction. Part of what you say resonates with me, I"ll be honest I find most of your post depressing yet I cant deny everything you say

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-suggests-vets-ptsd-aren-strong-article-1.2815752 Trump has gone too far....again...now he is attacking war veterans who suffer from PTSD

The SA constitution wasn't written by Marxists ....what are you talking about ? The SA constitution was and is very well constructed, there are certain things the USA could adopt but it wouldn't be suitable overall for a country like the USA For example we believe that everyone has a right to dignity so certain aspects of Freedom of Speech would be considered very offensive to the dignity of people so that would immediately clash with the USA view around Freedom of Speech which we have often discussed As I often try to explain to you guys in the USA we believe in free speech but certain words are considered unacceptable. This seems to be contradictory but this is because of the history of Apartheid which has a degree of relevance in our laws

"Egypt actually adopted the US constitution " Just the thought of that concept makes this post the funniest and most ridiculous suggestion anyone has said in ages on these forums, this even makes volo's comments seem normal Well done WOD, you definitely get the famous and revered BruceVC award for the " most absurd and unlikely post to make " Sometimes you guys really are funny and the funniest thing about it is I dont think you mean to be humorous

That is a very good article, it explains cogently why people in the USA can and should vote for Johnson. You guys have mentioned similar reasons but the article takes a relevant holistic view of the current US political system and summarizes the good and bad of the various candidates in a way that is candid and objective I learnt something new and pertinent so thanks for posting it It also highlights why my support for Clinton is not shared by many US forum members. I can summarize it in the following way. Clinton may indeed greatly increase Federal spending as the article explains in the paragraph below "Hillary Clinton calls for a vast expansion of federal spending, supported by the kinds of tax hikes that were comically impossible even in the years when President Barack Obama's fellow Democrats dominated both houses of Congress. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget calculates that Clinton's plan would increase spending by $1.65 trillion over a decade, mostly for college education, paid family leave, infrastructure and health-related expenditures. Spending just on debt interest would rise by $50 billion. Personal and business taxation would rise by $1.5 trillion. Sort through all the details and her plan would raise the national debt by $200 billion " So the articles most serious criticism of Clinton is around how she will increase the overall US debt through enhanced Federal spending, I can understand this concern and it is valid But my greatest concern is not US debt but a US under Trump where the US globally becomes less influential and more isolationist and countries like Russia and China automatically become more relevant. Considering the pressures on the EU created by BREXIT this would be the natural outcome as the two most important Western powers, the USA and the EU, would be less likely to oppose either Russia or China in various areas So a global world where Russia and China are now ideologically dominant may not seem relevant to anyone in the US but it would have a major negative outcome for every country that does believe in the strength and importance of what a Democracy stands for and the various institutions that are part of what defines Western ideology, like free media and respect for human rights This type of world would eventually impact the USA in worse way than increased debt. So that is my real concern

1% of posters (me) wants Trump to win to see the rivers of liberal tears flowing through memes and American Universities. Well, there is always that. I must admit it would be pretty funny. At least until he's inaugurated and actually started doing stuff. It would only be seen as funny if you dont care about the overall positive sustainability of the USA People like Hiro dont care if Trump harms the USA, in fact there are some forum members who think it would be a good thing to see the USA lose prestige and relevance The majority of USA forum members may have some support for Trump but fundamentally dont want the USA to become weaker. I reject any political development in the USA that will weaken it because the USA represents a critical part of the foundation of Western ideology which matters to me As we have discussed Trump wont be able to destroy the USA but he can lesson the positive influence the USA plays in the global world for the next 4 years which is enough reason for me to not want him to be president So in summary your view on Trump and him becoming president is not the same as Hiros because you do care about the USA, this is not the same thing as thinking some forum members living outside the USA care about the political developments in the same way

It is a right wing conspiracy WOD, everyone who doesnt have an agenda against her knows this Also your link didnt mention " Bleachbit " which is the key issue here. But I did find my own link, I dont like having to do other members work for them WOD. Please put effort into your posts and actually provide evidence if you have such a contriversial point to make http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/hillary-clinton-emails-bleachbit-227425 But this Bleachbit accusation doesn't convince me either, I need to do some research on it before I will acknowledge it is effective and was used I just knew if you thought hard enough, you could type "bleachbit" and "Clinton" into Google. Good job! dont get cheeky now.....you aren't too old for me to put you over my knee and give you a good spanking

It is a right wing conspiracy WOD, everyone who doesnt have an agenda against her knows this Also your link didnt mention " Bleachbit " which is the key issue here. But I did find my own link, I dont like having to do other members work for them WOD. Please put effort into your posts and actually provide evidence if you have such a contriversial point to make http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/hillary-clinton-emails-bleachbit-227425 But this Bleachbit accusation doesn't convince me either, I need to do some research on it before I will acknowledge it is effective and was used

GD you cant say " she lied about e-mail server ? Yes arguably you could say her staff and her were reckless.....fine that can be said But as we discussed at length and I am happy to rehash the argument again with links ( and please remember I do this for a living so I can honestly give much more detail if you really require it but I would rather not go through it again unless you insist ) She used a private email server for a period of time because of a private email address. Everyone in the White house and secret service seemed fine with this and they would have noticed her different email address Then she was required to hand over large amounts of email data She didnt have to hand over private emails so she told her staff to delete these Then she was accused of hiding vital information in the deleted emails. It was now obvious she was the victim of right wing witch hunt However the FBI forensics got involved and they were able to find all relevent deleted emails She was deemed reckless but it was not criminal http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3245735/The-FBI-recovered-Hillary-Clinton-s-secret-emails-private-computer-server-source-reveals.html Please can we bury this now, there must be other things you can accuse her of because I am genuinely concerned that if she does become president you guys will still be accusing her of this for the whole 4 years. Lets be fair, we must respect the office of the president of the USA And I will also stop anti-Trump posts if he becomes president unless he starts doing new offensive things as president. So I will also bury the past in the interest of respecting the office of the president You keep relying on out-of-date and incorrect stories. FBI couldn't recover the emails from her server because she used Bleachbit on them. They did recover some of the same emails from other people's computers. Conveniently Obola's Justice Department gave immunity to the people involved in deleting those emails, i.e. destroying evidence. Edit: More on Comey's congressional testimony: http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/28/nothing-james-comey-says-about-hillary-investigation-makes-sense/ That guy must be either really corrupt or really stupid to let himself be used like that. And you keep telling me that yet you cant produce a link....so we at an impasse And dont say " I must find the link" because its your theory so you need to produce the link. I will read it

This Trump prediction made me laugh....this is exactly what you would expect him to say Enoch are you voting for Hilary?

This is a good story, I like the way you think Grats and since I became active in 2012 its probably fair to say you have found these forums even more fulfilling and meaningful right ?

Geez, why can't she talk like that in the debates? I mean, there were a few moments when she went off the rails talking about faith and her daily spirit guide, but she handled the talk about self consciousness and the struggle with ego with incredible grace. Great question and great response. This is a good debate, she was very candid and sincere But I'll be honest she is often very similar to this in numerous debates. This is how I think of her generally

GD you cant say " she lied about e-mail server ? Yes arguably you could say her staff and her were reckless.....fine that can be said But as we discussed at length and I am happy to rehash the argument again with links ( and please remember I do this for a living so I can honestly give much more detail if you really require it but I would rather not go through it again unless you insist ) She used a private email server for a period of time because of a private email address. Everyone in the White house and secret service seemed fine with this and they would have noticed her different email address Then she was required to hand over large amounts of email data She didnt have to hand over private emails so she told her staff to delete these Then she was accused of hiding vital information in the deleted emails. It was now obvious she was the victim of right wing witch hunt However the FBI forensics got involved and they were able to find all relevent deleted emails She was deemed reckless but it was not criminal http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3245735/The-FBI-recovered-Hillary-Clinton-s-secret-emails-private-computer-server-source-reveals.html Please can we bury this now, there must be other things you can accuse her of because I am genuinely concerned that if she does become president you guys will still be accusing her of this for the whole 4 years. Lets be fair, we must respect the office of the president of the USA And I will also stop anti-Trump posts if he becomes president unless he starts doing new offensive things as president. So I will also bury the past in the interest of respecting the office of the president

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If anyone's still doing those signatures of Bruce quotes, I'd say this one is a contender. Oh wait I left a word out .....seriously, I meant to say There is a skill and art to explaining the truth to someone and not coming across as condescending

Thank you Volo. I don't think I can please your post. I didn't. Sorry I'm not getting this post? I thought you were saying you can compare the Island to SA ?

I always appreciate your honesty, what would you say you admire about Putin?

Your entire country is a hellhole where sexual abuse is rampant. What does that have to do with anything though? Someone from Brazil saying Chicago's gun violence is too high isn't invalidated as Rio is worse, no? Takes one to know one, eh? Seriously I think the point is, unless you're going to equally condemn both in the situation, pointing out the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye while having a plank in yours is considered bad form, perhaps? No You normally show more logic and reasonableness than this, please the post I made to WOD You cannot even begin to compare the OZ island to the crime in SA

Your entire country is a hellhole where sexual abuse is rampant. Just so I dont misunderstand you, is this your idea of a sense of humor? I have to be honest its really not funny but I shouldn't be the one to judge others sense of humor No, it's not a joke, don't you have the one of the highest murder rates and rape rates in the world? Yes we do and I am glad I asked you what you mean because I can see what you misunderstanding WOD you have to realize there is huge and incontrovertible difference between this island that the Australians send people to and a country like SA We do have terrible levels of crime but its not a natural occurrence. Its a direct consequence of 50 years of the inhumane attempt by the Apartheid system to rewire the psyche of 40 million black people.... So the extreme crime we face is committed by a small percentage of people who are basically emotionally detached from real feelings The island and the systemic abuse is about a modern societal problem, you should read this https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/08/02/australia-appalling-abuse-neglect-refugees-nauru