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My Xmas is definitely getting much, much better This issue Im dealing with at one of my customers has stabilized and thats huge pressure off me. Its a very rainy day in JHB and even though I wont be at the coast for the yearly family gathering my mom and stepdad are having Roast Pork in JHB , which I lovvvvvvvve, so Xmas will be small but festive and pleasant and Im excited

I am about to play Dishonored 2, very excited

I just bought this, Im busy downloading it as we speak

For a moment I thought you were serious and I had this long-arse reply typed up and ready to go. Well played sir, well played. I would think that statement is true and very applicable ?

The topic of the current conversation is food. It may be convenient for your argument to ignore that, but you can have your morality discussion with someone else. Any time you eat out (particularly from a street vendor), you are risking exposure to bacteria. In the US there are regulations in place to limit that exposure. In China, according to Sharp_One's example, there is no regulation. Ergo, you are at greater risk to bacteria in China. That seems absolute to me. You brought up McDonalds and tried to make this an American versus China thing, and you haven't convinced me. Honestly I'm not even sure how accurate Sharp_One's example is. I'd have to believe China has some sort of regulations for restaurants and food markets, particularly in the larger cities. I thought this was a politics thread, besides the derail began with the post below. Clearly the subtext of this whole thing is to criticize China for their lack of regulations. This was always an America vs China thing, I would say something rude that points to your inability to keep up with the thread but I suspect your post is borne more out of sophistry rather than a lack of understanding. Don't know which is worse, though. When were you last time in China? Answer me this: In which country you can buy bread, some ingredients and start selling sandwiches on a sidewalk starting your own small business. And no one will bother you. A) USA B) China But why would anyone want to live in China when you can live in any Western country which is much better on numerous levels, China Is not a Democracy, you dont vote in China China controls the flow of information aggressively, so if you like the idea of living in a truly censored society China is your place China doesnt care about human rights abuses in other countries because of there own appalling human rights record China interferes directly in there financial sector and tried to control there own stock market China is an important country, don't misunderstand me. But its not a better country than any Western country because of our values

Merry Xmas All I have had to cancel my Xmas leave due to issues at work but I'll still have Xmas at my moms who lives in JHB and I will take the leave I lost after NY

No you misunderstand me, a women can be gay and then get into straight relationships ore get married to a man and never be lesbian again. Its different for women as often the gay relationship is a mental one or emotional one while with most gay men the physical attraction to men and the physical relationship is what matters, its not a mental relationship I have never seen gay men suddenly become really straight so again provide links if you want to convince me

The last thing we want is anymore negative political sentiment towards Merkel, she needs to stay in power so the EU continues to be a sustainable and successful economic union for its member states

Links? I dispute the view that there are many examples of this

I do agree, the two are similar because he killed the ambassador due to the real atrocities Russia committed in Aleppo

http://www.thegully.com/essays/africa/000825sexchange.html Guys here are some more reprehensible medical treatment stories the Apartheid government forced on young gay men to " cure them " It makes me feel nauseous....what was wrong with these people ?

Didn't know you could get a degree in that... Me, I don't put much weight on formality, I just ask my gay friends (or a couple of family members) If I'm curious about something related to the subject. No better way to get straight (pun unintended) answers. Yes my outback living Australian and Kangaroo pet keeping friend but thats why I am considered so intelligent and astute on these forums Lets be honest, you have no education....dont you wish you could finish your grade 12 and earn the respect I have There are only about 12 people who ignore me? Its not that bad

Correct Of course I dont have a degree, I mean I have asked questions to my gay friends, observed behavior and understood what strife and discrimination members of the LGBT community go through globally

At least this confirms more irrefutable evidence that Islam isn't a violent religion

I always find his posts interesting, granted they may be enigmatic and sometimes esoteric but they always make me think Now to answer the question, I have been active in the gay scene for 15 years. I support events like Gay Pride and have gay friends. i have studied homosexuality and this is my view I have never known any gay person to truly become heteorsexual, I have seen gay people have to pretend to be straight but they always gay The Apartheid government attempted to do exactly what you suggesting.,...make homosexuals become heteorsexuals. They failed ....please read this appallinhg but true article http://www.bmj.com/content/329/7480/1415 There is no need to want to become heteorsexual, why would you want to change who you are?

You cared enough to reply. And you cared enough to tell Hurlshot he cared enough yet you also have no interest in this thread yet Hurlshot clearly is someone you care about .....well enough for you to pretend to care about this thread We give Hurlshot a pass for this because he normally really puts effort into tolerance and not being bias in the USA....so in fact he really cares.

Stop being a forum elitist Hurlshot His posts are not that hard to understand but you guys seem to over analyze what he is saying, smoke some weed and it will be easier to understand

But we need to define free speech because I dont think your definition is the same as mine Free speech in your example about the family is not free speech, if you wanted to speak on behalf of your family thats just speaking on behalf of your family but it may also contain free speech So free speech is just speaking without censorship Can you explain " Whites, there are so many weaknesses in your system because of pseudo-(individual based)-free speech " it sounds interesting

No this is all me, I went back and reread your point and you were clear on the overall point I jumped to conclusions but actually I skimmed through the first paragraph which I why i made assumptions

This entire post is so full of inaccurate comments and classic uninformed " Obama bashing " I feel you are making it just to annoy me Now I wont take the bait .....unless other people also share your view then I can dispute it. I cannot find one thing you have said that is true or you will be able to prove ....seriously not one

One thing I hate about the argument of "you voted and you lost, get over it" is that these aren't matters to just let slide when you don't get your way. This isn't some football match where your team's lost, this is serious stuff that has an impact in your way of living and that of everyone in your country, so of course arguing against the popular vote is not only sensible, it is necessary. If everyone just accepted the way things were because they "lost", would we have much of a democracy at all nowadays? Of course, this runs parallel to my opinion of whether everything should be blamed on Brexit or whether Britain should form part of the EU once more (I don't feel like I know enough about the matter to give an informed opinion either way). I just see things like this being said after every election there is and think it's a rubbish argument to make. If they believe Brexit is to do with it and that it should not have gone the way it did, it is within their power to still protest it regardless of any popular vote. I wish people would stop comparing Trump to Brexit, only some supporters on both sides share some ideological views but the 2 events were done for different reasons and supported for different reasons I can see how the 2 events may seem similar but to explain why they not the same in a easy way Brexit was fundamentally about one of the worlds most historically significant countries and currently powerful countries wanting to make there own laws and be governed by there own parliament. They are entitled to want this and aspire politically to this. Of course the EU is a successful trade block so the UK has some economic exposure but it will persevere. This is a permanent decision and will impact generations in a positive way IMO The rise of Trump is more of a political upheaval and attack on the current US political establishments ...it appears many Americans are unhappy with where the country was and is going. But worse case Trump will be gone in 4 years and we go back to the normal and understandable US political systems.Trump is not going to fundamentally change or destroy parts of the USA I wasn't compariing Trump to Brexit, aside from the attitude I see following the results for both (and other elections too). I was just making a point I see about elections in general. You said " my opinion of whether everything should be blamed on Brexit "...what did you mean by that ? I am not criticizing you by the way as many people are saying Trump and Brexit are the same and we should discuss this Oh, it's just Pie in the video saying he's tired of seeing everything being linked backed to Brexit and so on. What I meant is that I have no opinion as to how Brexit is affecting the UK currently because I haven't been following the matter all that closely. Oh my bad, I did misunderstand you

No, I feel great. Not that there's a chance California would leave, but I wish they would and create the People's Republic they always wanted. I was just teasing you because it was very interesting that you and Hurlshot were joking about this and then a few weeks later I watched this interview with this " California representative of why they need to leave " I like California and always have but this guy had no clue what he was saying, basically he said " we want to leave the USA not because of Trump but because we are not aligned to the future of the USA " !!! Since when? Oh wait since Trump won and now that means California needs to secede.....its such an over reaction its a joke

One thing I hate about the argument of "you voted and you lost, get over it" is that these aren't matters to just let slide when you don't get your way. This isn't some football match where your team's lost, this is serious stuff that has an impact in your way of living and that of everyone in your country, so of course arguing against the popular vote is not only sensible, it is necessary. If everyone just accepted the way things were because they "lost", would we have much of a democracy at all nowadays? Of course, this runs parallel to my opinion of whether everything should be blamed on Brexit or whether Britain should form part of the EU once more (I don't feel like I know enough about the matter to give an informed opinion either way). I just see things like this being said after every election there is and think it's a rubbish argument to make. If they believe Brexit is to do with it and that it should not have gone the way it did, it is within their power to still protest it regardless of any popular vote. I wish people would stop comparing Trump to Brexit, only some supporters on both sides share some ideological views but the 2 events were done for different reasons and supported for different reasons I can see how the 2 events may seem similar but to explain why they not the same in a easy way Brexit was fundamentally about one of the worlds most historically significant countries and currently powerful countries wanting to make there own laws and be governed by there own parliament. They are entitled to want this and aspire politically to this. Of course the EU is a successful trade block so the UK has some economic exposure but it will persevere. This is a permanent decision and will impact generations in a positive way IMO The rise of Trump is more of a political upheaval and attack on the current US political establishments ...it appears many Americans are unhappy with where the country was and is going. But worse case Trump will be gone in 4 years and we go back to the normal and understandable US political systems.Trump is not going to fundamentally change or destroy parts of the USA I wasn't compariing Trump to Brexit, aside from the attitude I see following the results for both (and other elections too). I was just making a point I see about elections in general. You said " my opinion of whether everything should be blamed on Brexit "...what did you mean by that ? I am not criticizing you by the way as many people are saying Trump and Brexit are the same and we should discuss this

Some people argued it was Federal overreach but there are some matters that quite simply couldn't be left up to the individual states to " do the right thing " Gay marriage is one of those things

One thing I hate about the argument of "you voted and you lost, get over it" is that these aren't matters to just let slide when you don't get your way. This isn't some football match where your team's lost, this is serious stuff that has an impact in your way of living and that of everyone in your country, so of course arguing against the popular vote is not only sensible, it is necessary. If everyone just accepted the way things were because they "lost", would we have much of a democracy at all nowadays? Of course, this runs parallel to my opinion of whether everything should be blamed on Brexit or whether Britain should form part of the EU once more (I don't feel like I know enough about the matter to give an informed opinion either way). I just see things like this being said after every election there is and think it's a rubbish argument to make. If they believe Brexit is to do with it and that it should not have gone the way it did, it is within their power to still protest it regardless of any popular vote. I wish people would stop comparing Trump to Brexit, only some supporters on both sides share some ideological views but the 2 events were done for different reasons and supported for different reasons I can see how the 2 events may seem similar but to explain why they not the same in a easy way Brexit was fundamentally about one of the worlds most historically significant countries and currently powerful countries wanting to make there own laws and be governed by there own parliament. They are entitled to want this and aspire politically to this. Of course the EU is a successful trade block so the UK has some economic exposure but it will persevere. This is a permanent decision and will impact generations in a positive way IMO The rise of Trump is more of a political upheaval and attack on the current US political establishments ...it appears many Americans are unhappy with where the country was and is going. But worse case Trump will be gone in 4 years and we go back to the normal and understandable US political systems.Trump is not going to fundamentally change or destroy parts of the USA