BruceVC
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I was thinking about this whole recount debate, initially I thought its a waste of time and in a way hypocritical because many Democrats were horrified that Trump said " I wont accept the election result " I believe the election was fair and represented a better message from Trump ..thats why he won. But end of the day lets say Stein arranges this recount for some states it may be better for overall cohesion in the USA because then we can put to rest the accusation about rigging ?
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You raise a good point, I have always maintained that the Russians interfered in the US election but of course they not solely responsible for every " fake news " story that was circulated during the election Trumps intrinsic strategy created certain stories or rather just repeated past issues himself and these stories then grew and became relevant for many of his supporters The Russians played a part but I would say maybe 15 % of the overall hyperbole was because of them But as GD said to me once when I raised how Wikileaks\Russia was undermining Hilary was if she had less controversy because of her past then there would be less to criticize her about. So in other words in some examples Hilary was an easy target because of perceived and valid negative sentiment about her
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What? Of course it does. Don't encourage people to not achieve education. Well to be fair there are many people who dont have university degrees but become very successful But for me and where I work you cannot get into the majority of banks or financial institutions without some degree in finance. That applies to many other sectors in SA But I would never say that on a radio station because we have such a high failure rate of black South Africans who attend university. There will be different reasons for this but the Apartheid system intentionally did not want to educate any black South Africans and for decades many people had very little education and never went to varsity The contradiction thought is Apartheid ended in 1990 and from 1994 the ANC came to power...the current black students were born outside Apartheid so why are they doing so badly in the current reality of tertiary education in SA? Oh no, Im fine. Thanks for asking White South Africans like myself are use to that type of rhetoric from some people , we just ignore it But sometimes I think I make too many justifications for some behavior in SA ...anyway its hard to be critical of certain things in SA because of our past. Like when I wanted you guys to comment on that link where those populist politicians were saying " we want to slaughter whites for land " ....I am not sure sometimes when I should get offended
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This made me laugh There is some truth in the overall frivolous message, for example in some of the various radio talk show debates I engage in I tend to say things like " tertiary education is important and gives you advantage in corporate...but of course just because someone doesnt have a degree that doesnt make them less than someone who does " ( this is a just an example )
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No actual footage of him though? I realize it sounds like a crazy conspiracy-level thing, but: 1) This election sadly taught me that yeah, we've hit rock-bottom and you actually do have to give those the time of day. Still depressing to realized we've hit that low. 2) Even IF he turns out to be A-OK and this is just wild paranoia, it's alarming to me that so few people give attention to such an issue. Assange being captured or killed is not an absurd idea, so I would HOPE the general public is alert the moment something seems amiss. Instead it's just the Democrat establishment not learning a damned thing while many of the Trump supporters are now so high off their victory they view it as a license to be a **** and just spend their days trashing liberals and talking crap. Gee, didn't that lack of respect play a role in a recent politician losing an election...? Amazing to me how priorities seem so out of whack and human nature continues to disappoint. There's two instances of video that allegedly happens after the time where it's theorized wikileaks was compromised (people have dates ranging from October 3rd to October 24th). One I can't find but remember seeing, the other is an interview that was done via RT, which is now being scrutinized for very strange instances that imply some rather heavy editing tricks took place. There is such little concern about Assange because many people, like me, think of him with utter contempt and disdain He has been directly involved in trying to undermine the USA for years, and by proxy the West, and was one of the people who contributed towards interfering in the US elections by selectively releasing certain emails which made the Democrats look very bad. He is someone who has exacerbated this concerning reality we now grapple with where words like " post -truth " have become the Oxford word of 2016 http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/post-truth-oxford-dictionaries-word-year-2016-n685081 He needs to face the Swedish rape charges and then the fact he broke the conditions of his bail http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/9343630/Julian-Assange-faces-re-arrest-over-breaching-his-bail-condition-by-seeking-asylum-in-Ecuador.html What amazes me is how some of you guys still think he is some sort of " cyber-robin hood ", he is not. He is a criminal and someone who deserves the full weight of the law thrown at him when he is finally arrested...hopefully somehow by the US authorities
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Geez, I wonder if you right....that could be true. It would be a huge upset and very applicable Real spoiler is that mmmm.....its possible I suppoe But it seems unlikely, I do agree that there is an obvious attempt to not show any pictures of Arnold which means we will get shocked either way
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Your just jealous you don't get such great amounts of food It is true I do love any event or special day where there is loads of food
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I was watching this on CNN....its very concerning if true
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Yeah Happy Thanksgiving to all our American forum friends
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Thanks GD What type of food you eating and where you celebrating this year?
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Citation so ****ing needed. He was asked if he would accept results of the election, and he responded (rough quote) "I can't tell you now, I'll have to look at it at the time." Unless you've got some other interview or source I'm not aware of, don't blatantly misquote a guy to make him look bad. That's disgusting. If you've got one, share it. If you don't, get your misinformation out of here. I can't find it right now but there was some rally where he said he would only accept the results if he won. Here ya go: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/20/politics/donald-trump-i-will-totally-accept-election-results-if-i-win/ Yes he did say this but its clear now he didnt mean it, it was just another example of his populist strategy to win the election http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38077422 Guys here is a story that asks an interesting question " are women less corrupt than men " . I think they are generally but the issue is complicated and nuanced and really requires context Anyway the link gives a good example of this
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Geez Gromnir, Im glad you okay
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Imaenoon isn't the easiest and most reasonable solution simply for Trump to refuse to accept the job as president and we make Hilary president in the interests of social and political cohesion ?
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Geez, I wonder if you right....that could be true. It would be a huge upset and very applicable Real spoiler is that That could be another surprise, there are so many exciting possible outcomes it almost boggles the mind But if I had to guess and based on Ford's general comments I am leaning towards Ros theory
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volo !!! This is a highly offensive post how can you possibly suggest.....oh wait....okay, you are condemning this deed. Okay my bad, carry on volo It's truly tragic and heinous what happened to her, and forgive me for seeming unsensitive but why is he labeled a neonazi and white supremacist? What labels as "source" material for this since they don't have any media and examples of him being one except for a stash of materials they don't tell us what, just label as neonazi material?Sorry, due to our media here, it looks like this heinous tragedy was done by someone very passionate about politics and took it to far and almost seems like the media is using a narrative to label this scum bag as something they can use as an example of "brexit racists". If that's what he had in his house, then it's not too much of a leap to assume he was a nazi. Certainly beyond reasonable doubt. Nat 1 on reading for me. Sigh ty for pointing that out. Sometimes we see crime committed by so called " neo-nazis" but they have no real political aspirations. They are criminals and its just convenient for them to say things like " we care about the white race " In this case Jo Cox was killed because this guy believed she was weakening the UK ( Britain ) and her objective was to undermine the white race, so in this case its criminal but clearly political. So that's why his actions are linked to the Neo-Nazi movement
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http://news.sky.com/story/neo-nazi-thomas-mair-gets-whole-life-sentence-for-mp-jo-coxs-murder-10668829 Guys a chilling reminder that Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists are real and do negatively impact our lives
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He most certainly does have a type of charisma that appeals to many of his supporters, its real and contributed towards his presidential victory
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Good thing this hasn't happened. Chomsky is such a hypocrite... " down with Capitalism. down with the free market...down with the West " he cries and bemoans the " truly benighted state of the West " And he does all this and shares his " great insights " while living and thriving in the USA .....you know the place that is the...... home of the free market and foundation of Western ideology He is so false its almost nauseating ...almost
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Geez, I wonder if you right....that could be true. It would be a huge upset and very applicable
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There is no excuse. Replace Spencer's words with that of any oppressed minority and you have very same argument used by SJWs. Guys those types of white nationalists\supremacists represent such a small minority of white people in the USA it isn't worth getting concerned about, I have seen that same video sooooo many times on various news channels
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Now that Trump is going to be president he faces some important legal considerations around his own personal business empire There is real and valid criticism about conflict of interest once he is president and how any decision he makes could unduly benefit the vast Trump corporation But this has been discussed numerous times and what Trump needs to do to avoid any future issues, the most likely scenario is that he will hand over full control of all his private sector businesses to his children. He will legally separate himself from receiving any income and having any manageable decision making powers within all his companies This is the fairest outcome. Trump is in an invidious position because I firmly believe he didn't become president to enrich himself, he really wants to " make the USA great again " . Yet it cannot be denied he has created a vast business empire but it seems unreasonable to expect him to just dissolve this empire because he is now president so giving control to his children seems like a good compromise ?
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well, trump is wrong 'bout one thing: the theatre has never been a safe place for those in power. perhaps rosenberg would be better to be speaking 'bout the theatre? *shrug* the theatre has frequent needed be subtle. the theatre has sometimes been subversive. the theatre, sadly, has been a tool of the State or wealthy patrons more often than not, but there is no question the theatre has also been brave, rude, crude, terrible and beautiful. we would weep if we genuine believed there were even a possibility the theatre would need become a safe place for those in power and am glad we live in an age and in a nation where performers can be so open and forthright. if the cast of hamilton offended beyond the pale, then people will stop going to see the show and their message will die. they took a risk. personally, am not believing pence deserved the treatment he received, but am indescribably proud o' an America where nobody is safe from ridicule in the theatre. not tyrants. not businessmen. not journalists. not saints. some will see what happened as evidence o' divisiveness. it is. is also proof o' freedom. thank God. thank America. ... btw, the writers o' hamilton need a history lesson. got the hero and villain largely reversed. HA! Good Fun! I have to say I have never heard the cast of a US theater making such a political statement so openly to a politician ? Has this happened before?
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He is quite hot ? volo Im glad you will never really have to live under a truly corrupt and brutal PM or president. In Africa there are countries where the citizens of those countries have known nothing for generations but grinding poverty, they dont expect anything from there governments because they have never really seen a quality of life or delivery of services for decades You should be very grateful for Trudeau, he is a very good PM
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Why Political Correctness (Cultural Marxism) Must End!
BruceVC replied to Valsuelm's topic in Way Off-Topic
I'd say if people are gullible enough to take Breitbart at face value, that's on them and has nothing to do with "the mainstream media" or "the left". Fair enough. I would say that about all media. Assess the source. determine how trustworthy your source has been and compare it to other sources. I typically watch Fox news, which can be incredibly biased in some hours (as if CNN and MSNBC and BBC aren't), but I don't tend to take Breitbart "at face value." Likewise with most talk radio. (as an aside, I listen to music in the car rather than talk radio.) Of course I feel the same way about National Inquirer and that particular rag broke the entirely legitimate story about John Edwards. The source isn't as important as the information. If the information is good, the source shouldn't be the issue. I'm about ready to turn into a pumpkin, so maybe I'm not thinking this through properly. *shrug* We dont get Fox news in South Africa but when I travel to the USA I do try to watch it. Its exactly what many people think it is, its aligned to the traditional Republican view of the USA and represents conservative views. There is nothing wrong with that in most cases , its the same as other left wing news channels Some of the commentary IMO is biased and some of it is objective. End of the day people need to analyze news stories and decide as impartially as possible what is true. I would just encourage people to consider watching other channels sometimes just so you are aware there will be other perspectives I watch CNN, Sky, BBC. Al-jazeera and Bloomberg so I try to get varied view of global events- 135 replies
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Why Political Correctness (Cultural Marxism) Must End!
BruceVC replied to Valsuelm's topic in Way Off-Topic
It does concern me that some people think Milo and Breitbart offer real insights into the news and social events that other forms of media dont have or refuse to discuss One of the outcomes of this is actually an uninformed electorate who lack critical thinking. We saw aspects of this in the US elections where many Trump supporters simply refused to question anything Trump said and rejected anything from the numerous mainstream media sources The good news in the case of this US election is that Trump didnt mean most of his most controversial comments so people blindly believing what he said and voting for him wont lead to a potential political or economic crisis in the USA But another Western country, another leader who follows the same rhetoric you could quite possibly see someone who gets elected and really tries to deport "11 million Latinos " Bruce I think you are still not seeing the point I was trying to make earlier. Nothing that was wrong with Trump made Hillary Clinton a better option for the folks who voted for him. For the 95 million Americans out of work Trump might lead to something bad, or he might not. But Clinton definitely led nowhere. The best case was more of the same. And that means no work and no hope. I do see the point, the post I made has nothing to do with Hillary or trying to justify her loss She wasn't the right candidate and she wasn't the right woman to be the first women president in the USA. She was distrusted by many people and if people in a country like the USA don't believe a candidate has any integrity or that she is fundamentally mendacious then that candidate cannot hope to be president Her own historical base didnt fully support her, only 51 % of college educated women voted for her. Some people on this forum assume I am inexorably bias to Hilary but even I am not so arrogant to now defend someone unnecessarily when her own support base did not endorse her Trump was the better and stronger candidate, no argument from my side My point is simply that websites like Breitbart encourage a view that all other media is bias and that only they should be trusted to tell the truth Some people will believe this and unintentionally become manipulated by the right wing ideological views of a website like Breitbart. The sad part of this and the obvious irony is that now these people are really being subjected to a bias view of the news. And yet they truly believe now there understanding of events is " the truth " This interview with Milo summarizes where the real hyperbole and misinformation exists. The quote below highlights how much of what Breitbart says if critically analyzed will fail or reveal to be inconsistent " forced into a confusing set of contradictions Thursday on live television "
