BruceVC

Guys come one This thread is full of hyperbole and unfair criticism of standard corporate culture ....Bennie what do you mean by comparing a business to the Soviets ? I cannot see the common link? The Soviet Union had a centralised planned economy, so, put simply, a clique of bureaucrats decided what job everyone should do, which tasks had to be fulfilled, how much had to be produced and so on. A modern business is run much the same way, with a clique of bureaucrats deciding the exact same things, only on a smaller scale. If we can all agree that the Soviet planned economy both interfered with our economic freedoms as well as created great inefficiency, why is it so hard for us to say the same thing about firms? This is false on multiple levels. But since you are young we can forgive your lack of knowledge. In centrally planed economy the government decided what is produced and how much was produced on the whim of decident and not on the needs of the consumers. Not only that but they also decided what and how much the consumer can buy. Modern business operates on exact opposite. Goods are produced on the basis of what and how much the consumers need. For example in Poland during communistic regime my parents had to get a special "card" that allowed them to buy a washing mashine. Then they had to sign up in the shop and wait in line for the time the government decided that x amount of washing mashines will be delivered to that shop. Even in my company I don't decide what is produced. The clients decides what they needs in what speciffication, and so on. There is engineers that makes designs, supply that decide what materials are used, production that decides who and how will execute and accounting that keeps everyone to stay within the budget. If I would need to decide all those things by myself I wouldn’t have anytime for anything else. So your claim is exact opposite of right. Thanks for demonstrating such empathy and forgiving me There were different interpretations of USSR Communism that was implemented in different countries Red China Communism was ideologically different on some levels to the USSR, I have never bothered to research the different countries individual types of Communism but I appreciate you sharing your definition I will need another forum member who lives in Poland to corroborate your definition so we debating historical precedent I understand your work environment is a factory production type model, I work primarily in the financial sector and my job and responsibility is very different to yours. For example I have a monthly target and sales pipeline to be concerned about, everyday I have certain measurable developments I need to follow

Guys come one This thread is full of hyperbole and unfair criticism of standard corporate culture ....Bennie what do you mean by comparing a business to the Soviets ? I cannot see the common link? The Soviet Union had a centralised planned economy, so, put simply, a clique of bureaucrats decided what job everyone should do, which tasks had to be fulfilled, how much had to be produced and so on. A modern business is run much the same way, with a clique of bureaucrats deciding the exact same things, only on a smaller scale. If we can all agree that the Soviet planned economy both interfered with our economic freedoms as well as created great inefficiency, why is it so hard for us to say the same thing about firms? Okay I can see the misunderstanding Typically most corporates have a very important objective, they have to be profitable and this objective ensures in most cases the corporate entity has to follow good governance and have rules and procedures around how staff conduct themselves especially if you have a target. By a target I mean revenue number Communism was the opposite of this approach, it took away any incentive and tried to make everyone work for the common good of the state .....this is not how human beings function. The best way to motivate people is to reward those that work harder and set reasonable goals and outcomes

Guys come one This thread is full of hyperbole and unfair criticism of standard corporate culture ....Bennie what do you mean by comparing a business to the Soviets ? I cannot see the common link?

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No I can produce a link anytime if required and applicable. Why do you think I am always correct in our debates and why do I always come across as convincing You need to start learning to create your views based on links....this way you will be comfortable having a debate

Most of Aleppo's (city) citizens were and are government supporters. The rebels were quite open about 'invading' Aleppo from outside, they were successful initially precisely because there were few troops there as there was little unrest, and much of the city's population fled from rebel areas to government areas during their initial attack (indeed, while there are a lot of refugees from Syria there are far more IDPs and they are almost all in government areas). Most of the urban centres were strongly to moderately pro government, most of the anti areas were rural. The most anti government city (Hama) actually had very little violence because there were most troops there. It's not primarily the US in Syria for sure, Obama was consistently fighting the loony warhawk fringe (Hillary, Power; McCain, Graham), if the US really wanted something to happen it would have irrespective of the UN or the legality of it. They have indirectly armed Al Qaeda and ISIS though (when Al Nusra/ ISIS were the same organisation as they were initially), via the CIA (but not the Pentagon) because they control most of the routes in to rebel territories- and everyone knows they take a share of supplies to other groups that travel their routes. It's no accident that they are the best armed rebel group despite being 'embargoed'. The video is pretty loaded and is itself propaganda, but a lot of it is true. Things like the Al Kindi Hospital being used as an example of a hospital destroyed by the gov happened, when it was blown up by suicide bombers from Al Qaeda/ ISIS, and how the white helmets work and were formed, and the multiple 'last hospital/ doctor bombed' claims are accurate. The MSM is usually completely useless on Syria especially US outlets but that video alternative is most of the way to being biased in an exactly reverse way. Nah I dont believe much of this post, its your normal " lets blame the USA for the violence in the ME " For example Obama did not intervene specifically because of the UNSC veto, I don't blame them because of how people in the ME always blame the USA for something. Its a specious point to say " if the USA wanted something to happen "....that's the point, they had no inclination in intervention And I want to see credible links around the CIA funding, why would the CIA need to fund a group that came from Iraq that had access to stolen weaponry through the tribal Sunni connection? So the CIA connection is a false theory people use to blame the USA for starting the Syrian civil war and again this is just an excuse for the turmoil and instability we are seeing in the ME So unless you can produce links we will just ignore your comment

No He is Canadian but he thinks the EU is a failure and a Nazi organisation Wrong Bruce, Volo is Kanadian, get your facts straight. Also, the UK is a Nazi nation too, following a Nazi queen.

No He is Canadian but he thinks the EU is a failure and a Nazi organisation

Look at what I have to deal with in South Africa ...this is what some white people say about other white people Its the most irritating thing you can imagine...I commented at the end, I am BruceVC https://www.thedailyvox.co.za/need-act-white-privilege-systems-keep-white-people-racist-dean-hutton/

So you're saying the Left going on a rant is the problem? The left attacking itself is the problem? Hillary Clinton is the problem? It's a lot easier to just say what the left is doing wrong rather than just point to a british guy ranting off. volo intentionally creates confused posts at times,....that guys is a UK citizen, the UK left is not like the USA left and BREXIT is not the same as the Trump victory And I have strong ties to the UK as most of my indirect family live there so Im not being nasty or being unsupportive of the UK

Which actor/comedian is that? I think I recognize the person but can't place the name. Is that suppose to be a real venting session, I hope not because that entire speech was just subjective diatribe ..... volo please tell me you don't think what he said was valid because he is making the same assumptions he claims the " left " was making. Again speaking on behalf of other people in another country Yes people like me thought Hilary was going to win, everyone assumed that. For him to think anyone would think he knew Hilary was going to lose is just a mendacious and convenient example of social media grandstanding Its okay to admit you were wrong but to learn from it Bruce, didn't even you tell people they were sexist for not voting for her? I'm not sure, not accusing but I even remember alot of "racist, sexist, islamicphobe" being said of people who were against Hillary and for brexit on these very forums during the presidential election and such. That dude was spot on in as far as the atmosphere in the news and on social media around here. Outside of the country always gets a different view. You cheeky I asked an innocuous question that I assumed would have no impact to anyone because its not like people take my advice or follow what I say...I'm not even American so who cares what I say? But I did say " maybe its unintentional but is this anti-Hilary rhetoric fueled by the fact she is a women " This clearly upset people and I had to apologize to the Mods....I am obviously much more relevant than what I assumed But going forward I only criticised Trump supporters like Kellyanne Conway for her blatant attempts to create a false dichotomy. I don't think I said anything about any US members. I was contemptuous of people I saw on TV repeating idiotic Trump statements but that wasn't on this forum ?

Which actor/comedian is that? I think I recognize the person but can't place the name. Is that suppose to be a real venting session, I hope not because that entire speech was just subjective diatribe ..... volo please tell me you don't think what he said was valid because he is making the same assumptions he claims the " left " was making. Again speaking on behalf of other people in another country Yes people like me thought Hilary was going to win, everyone assumed that. For him to think anyone would think he knew Hilary was going to lose is just a mendacious and convenient example of social media grandstanding Its okay to admit you were wrong but to learn from it

Yes, you must be right There is no way the UN could be so completely wrong in such a well known civil war, I am much more likely to now believe your view on the whole validity of this video

I am still shocked the likes of the UN could be so disingenuous around events in the ME that are known and accepted by most countries But to play the old " the USA is causing all this conflict " card is beyond my realm of understanding All this type of propaganda does is encourage countries in the ME to not take responsibility for addressing extremism which is not the case ....unbelievable

Yep and good to know our media isn't a tool for the govt to misdirect/lie too Oh my hat, this has got to be one of the most inaccurate and uninformed videos around the Syrian conflict I have ever seen. I cannot believe people from the UN can be so ignorant about events in the ME, did you guys actually listen to what the commentators are saying? Lets summarize it, according to them There is no Shia\Sunni conflict in the ME....really? So there are no proxy wars or historical tension between Saudi Arabia or Iran? Its the USA who has created this Kurd\Sunni\Shia divide ...wow the USA is so powerful it actually can cause millions of Arabs who normally dislike the USA to create these false sectarian groups and then fight each other for years They deny the Arab Spring occurred and the Syrian civil war is the fault of the USA\Isreal\ Sunni countries Assad is a good leader who actually has the whole country supporting him ....so what the destruction of Aleppo was because of ... The USA must be complicate because they killed Gaddafi so quickly yet Assad lives. Again this is another example of a lazy, spurious assessment of the Arab Spring. Gaddafi was killed by his own people, the USA did not attack Syria in the beginning because of the Russia and China veto...so obviously Assad was not killed They openly claim the war in Syria is about the USA trying to destroy a Arab, secular state.....like Libya. Yes clearly the USA destroyed Libya ...very true and accurate The " media " is to blame for this false narrative, so all the independent Arab media houses that filmed numerous aspects of the war are actually one big company like CNN, Sky and Al-Jazeera. Amazing how people dismiss facts The open support and bombing campaign of Russia is not recognized There is no conflict against extremism in the ME and its all the Saudi\USA fault.....not sure who has been fighting ISIS in Mosul for the last 9 months? This entire video is one series of excuses and false justifications for a real conflict, anyone who seriously believes this may as well also believe that Peter Pan is real Why would anyone take this video as real ?

His stance on climate change was to be expected .....I don't follow the debate but it is incongruous to be the only member country that has a leader who disputes the science However some of his supporters do indeed dismiss the reasons for global warming so you could see this as Trump sticking to a campaign promise? http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/08/europe/g20-merkel-trump-communique/index.html He's referring to the whole capitulating to Putin and not standing up to Putin over the election meddling. Trump is an embarrassment to America in general I have always been very critical of Putin's belligerence and interference in numerous Democracies over the last decade , I am not defending him or denying the Russian unacceptable hubris around there hacking in the USA election but Russia has some important vested interests with the USA in countries like Syria So now is not the time to discuss the hacking....anyway its obvious this is something Trump has always tried to avoid and dismiss

His stance on climate change was to be expected .....I don't follow the debate but it is incongruous to be the only member country that has a leader who disputes the science However some of his supporters do indeed dismiss the reasons for global warming so you could see this as Trump sticking to a campaign promise? http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/08/europe/g20-merkel-trump-communique/index.html

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volo its offensive to compare Obama to the Nazis

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volo we discussed this last time and Im sure you agreed, Canada doesnt really count because we want Canada to become part of the USA anyway...so we consider interference in the Canadian electoral process as " domestic " which is acceptable Its best for Canada and its economic and cultural sustainability to become part of the USA, its not like it would make a difference to you? And yes you can still keep your French language but if you honest I doubt you can name one valid reason why Canada shouldn't be absorbed into the USA?

That article is not the same thing, that example is like financially supporting a lobbyist group or some Super Pacs Your article even says " Mr. Netanyahu survived the election, and the U.S. spending was not deemed illegal because the State Department never put any conditions on the money. Investigators also said OneVoice didn’t turn explicitly political until days after the grant period ended " How can that even remotely be the same as president of Russia ordering hacking of the USA on numerous levels in a mandate to help Trump win?

I'm glad she did the right thing according to what happened. Yes there is always ****, but I'm glad we still have people like her upholding the right protocol in this case. Also am I the only one laughing my ass off about California's travel bans? Funny how everyone was up in arms and still are for Trump's travel bans, but it's okay for California to do so bc LGBT protection..... nevermind that the countries Trump is trying to ban for a bit is way worse towards LGBT community. Awww the hypocrisy is so funny af lmao. Also BruceVC, I'll give u a reason why NO ONE gives a flying **** about Russia hacking the DNC and releasing untampered emails that didn't vote for Hillary. Wanna know why? Because in the end, all it was basically was a smear campaign except with truth. We Americans get smear campaigns Everytime there is an election. That's it. That was their end result. Why do I not give a **** about the DNC getting hacked? I'll give several. 1. It wasn't an election booth or election result that got hacked. 2. If the politicians weren't so damn careless, there's a really good chance that they wouldn't have gotten hacked. 3. We actually got a smear campaign that was truthful. That's an achievement in getting when dealing with media/politicians. Next time it should be both, so we can see the truth about BOTH parties. 4. It embarrassed a politician, especially one that was rigged to win by the media. We Americans LOVE seeing someone that's high and mighty fall. Especially during a time when any doubts about her as a politician resulted with with labeled as a sexist. So glad to see that blow up in their face. 5. Because the media STILL says the Russians hacked the election. We still can't get the truth still. Yes my friend but domestic media hyperbole and US politicians trying to undermine other politicians is normal ...this was a foreign country directly interfering in your elections Its unprecedented and I find it highly inappropriate and irritating To be fair they didn't interfere with the election, they interfered with the DNC. Not the same thing. They tried to interfere with voting systems but that is impossible to do. And Redneckdevil is 100% correct. Had the DNC practiced even a modicum of the professionalism working Americans take for granted there would have been nothing embarrassing to reveal. Their arrogance, their nastiness, their sneering condescension was as much their downfall as the Russians. No one is saying they hacked the actual voting system, they attempted and in some cases influenced public opinion through Wikileaks and the timed release of emails and yes the hacking of the DNC. They were instrumental in embellishing fake news stories and encouraged distrust of anything Clinton said