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I have stopped being appalled and surprised by the Russian propaganda, the only reason I still follow it is because its still raised in our SA media by Russian apologists so I need to be aware of it when its discussed on our talk shows which I am active on

That makes sense but surely NATO could still launch nukes from the Baltic states? Because the specific point made in SA from RT anchors and the Russian embassy is " Russia doesnt want nukes on its border " ?

One of brothers has just discovered this and sent me this specific video, I told him I have been aware of Juice Media for 18 months or so since you shared these videos on this forum I sent him a link where he can watch previous videos, he is very impressed and has is going to watch them this weekend

Brilliant as usual, I love the " but if Putin had done it we would have imposed sanctions "

@Zoraptor You are really the only active person on these forums who generally responds to questions about this conflict and I wanted to understand something One of the reasons from Putins propaganda to justify the invasion is the fear of nukes being moved by NATO to Ukraine which means nukes on the border of Russia But both Estonia and Latvia are on the border of Russia and both countries are part of NATO. So if NATO wanted to move nukes to the border of Russia they could do with Estonia and Latvia ? So how does one justify this argument for an invasion of Ukraine?

I dont understand the argument that we dont have free will, I am not saying you are saying that I want to state unequivocally that I have absolute free will on every aspect of my life, if I dont want to pay my rates or go to work I dont have to. Yes I will be fired but its choice And if I want to end my life I can, how anyone say we dont have free will boggles my mind ?

Same as me, I like to keep things simple around how I understand them and how they have influenced my lived experience So I want to go back to the question " are our futures predetermined " ? The belief in fatalism has been around for centauries. In WW1 many soldiers on the Western front and particularly soldiers who were involved in " going over the top " started believing in fatalism because of how some people died and some people just survived so soldiers were cynical and fatalism seemed the most realistic form of belief https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fatalism I dont believe in fatalism as the primary reason for future events. Christians believe in free choice and free will so to me that translates, from a religious perspective, to a future that you decide on the outcome. Some religious people believe a higher power has already decided your future but that doesnt really make sense to me because of free will So I dont believe in accurate prognostications around most human futures but I do believe in prognostications around very likely world events, like WW1 due to the reality of European nationalism at the time, and obviously we can predict with 100% accuracy future events like Haley's Comet coming back to the earth

You posted that link about the failed Russian air military strategy, it was very interesting and why they dont have air superiority

Nah, we fine with charging Russia with war crimes for what they have done to the Ukrainian civilians If want to bring up Iraq again then we must also charge Russia for war crimes in Syria Lots of blood on Putins hand, I would say he is lucky to only be charged for the terrible carnage in Ukraine

We have a Russian apologist " socialist " political party in SA called the EFF ( Economic Freedom Fighters ) and they have been parroting the Russian propaganda and meeting the Russian ambassador and openly shaking his hand and agreeing and repeating all the Russian gaslighting Now to be fair to the EFF they dont have any qualified economists or historians in their leadership structures so in the SA narrative they typically make these ridiculous and controversial comments like " nationalization of banks " and their leader is facing about 4-5 separate charges in court ranging from assault to hate speech Anyway when one of their politicians was asked " what about all the killing of civilians in Ukraine by Russia " he said "Russia is not targeting any civilian buildings or killing civilians, the Ukrainians have released people from prison and they killing civilians and its the US propaganda that is showing fake news about the bombing of towns and civilian buildings " So you must never be surprised by the blatant lies and propaganda from Russia and those people who repeat this misinformation

Those are hilarious, "faceboo "

Is this serious or a joke because Putin threatened to take over the assets of any foreign company that pulls out of Russia?

Malc you really need to start and drinking and socializing with your WASP coworkers , it builds important and durable work relationships if you have any kind of sales role ?

Seems unnecessary, most Ukrainians would be Roman Catholic?

Now we going to hear " you MUST take a vaccine " ..lucky I took mine on Monday so no pressure on me

Gfted1, and others, do you think our futures are predetermined and if so do you think its possible to see the future in some ways ? I think we decide our own futures based on choices we make like the famous quote " Two roads diverged in a wood and I took the one less traveled ... " so I dont think our fates are predetermined But I do think you can see possible future choices or outcomes which explains my dream about Malc and what he said to me. Its like a fish swimming down a river, the fish is going to swim past certain inevitable rocks, and trees on the side of river but how he swims will be different and the route he swims will be different but the fish is always swimming down the river Thats how I see the future and can it be predicted but any prediction is not guaranteed because we have free choice. Im trying to explain my view in a simple way, Im not sure it makes sense?

Great insights about these countries. I like the way you frame the difference between Russia and China. It makes sense to me

You wont believe this but I have just had Deja Vu with you suggesting the same thing and I mean the exact same thing I have dreams sometimes and then years later I experience the same thing in RL I have always been fascinated by Deja Vu because of what it could mean for the whole time paradox and is the future predetermined because how else could I dream about something that hasnt happened? Anyway I dont have any definitive answers or any explanations how it happens but it happens to me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Déjà_vu

war special military operation Yes its suppose to be strike through, I copied it above and the word war does have a line through it but its faint and that must be related to the cut and paste. Also it wouldnt make sense to call the invasion " war special military operation" because the propaganda point is Russia refers to it as a " special military operation " when its a war

Of course he is, thats why he crossed out the word war . ( I quoted him verbatim ) People that make that point are highlighting the absurd propaganda from Putin Its completely sarcastic

Sorry Majestic, I think you confused by the point I was making because of how I quoted it If you watch the video of Putins rant he talks about Russian people opposed to the war as scum and they should be removed from Russian society So the guy from Codex, who I absolutely agree with, is being sarcastic and repeating what Putin said. Watch Putins rant to understand So I appreciate you playing the fascist card again, it made me laugh as usual as very few things make me laugh about this Ukrainian invasion

I think you should do an IMMEDIATE scan of your PC and devices to look for any spyware !!!! Imagine the next speech from Putin" and as Katphood from Obsidian forums said we want Ukraine to be neutral "

@Gorth and others Have you seen these comments from Putin ? Below is a post from Codex that I am quoting verbatim. Its not my words but I agree with it 100% as it summarizes my views on the video above It's refreshing to see politician calling part of his population 'scum' and 'traitors' - even in the middle of war special military operation. You won't see that in most Western countries. No weak 'unite the nation' or anything like that - just a strong call to purge undesirable elements from the society. One thing that he forgot - was the call for celebration of victory. I've heard that Nazis are 'basically defeated' - for the second time - and it took much less sacrifices from Russian nation than the Great Patriotic War.

https://www.abc15.com/news/national/russia-ukraine-conflict/china-denies-us-claims-that-its-aiding-russias-invasion-of-ukraine I thought China didnt care about Western sanctions and that it would stand by its friend Russia ?

Great videos, even though I dont understand a word of that Russian lady singing its evocative and that sand art is amazing