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Yeah, that too.

I.... didn't say anything about originality.... I was talking about "just" the archetype. Its also just the two charachters I can relate them the most to. Just in general. Especially Anjali. Beeing that goes in the air with badass when going full out? Check. Also general attitude of both is simliar / releatable to said charachters from what I've seen so far. And a stretch... Well, Nathaniel helped as a tester on X-Men Legends. I thought it possible that he took some hints from there. Hmmm... That's quite a stretch man. I'm not seein it with those characters. =P I'm sure if you asked a comic book fan, they would have better super heros/heroines that they'd be more similar to. It does seem to me that these heros/heroines do have a sort of over exaggerated "comic-book-esque" feel to them minus the crazy origin stories, though. =) I consider myself somewhat of a comic book fan. More DC than Marvel though and have read up on most of the lore and every comic I could get my hands on. Though you are not wrong. Already seen a few human torch comparisons too. There however the charachter type is completly different. @DLRK Thank you. I value your opinion immensly.

Well, a truly professional argument? No, there I can't argue with you because I don't have sufficent knowdlegde. That the game is visually appealing to me completly apart from fanboyism? Well, thats just the truth. ... Also I hated KOTOR2s art direction apart from charachter designs and largly disliked the art direction of the NWN2 OC. (Just for the "fanboyism" argument) F:NV was pretty meh (Original and FO3s assets). I loved MOTBs/SOZs though.

.... Arguings lost here, no?... Well, I'll still enjoy the art in my entirly unprofessional way.

I liked the art direction Yellow isn't an art direction, yellow is just plain s***. Seriously, AP was BUTT ugly, and the Art Direction looked like something a programmer had come up with. NOT GOOD! It kinda improved as the game went along though, it was still bloody awful. Did we really play the same game? Because Yellow sure as hell wasn't used everywhere.

Nobody ever said that the game was flawless except some random dudes. But that counts for the best crpgs since 1999 in general.

http://twitter.com/jesawyer Surely not an RPG set in the dune universe... No no, must be something else... Far too obvious. Sawyers working on an original IP. So, no.

I.... didn't say anything about originality.... I was talking about "just" the archetype. Its also just the two charachters I can relate them the most to. Just in general. Especially Anjali. Beeing that goes in the air with badass when going full out? Check. Also general attitude of both is simliar / releatable to said charachters from what I've seen so far. And a stretch... Well, Nathaniel helped as a tester on X-Men Legends. I thought it possible that he took some hints from there.

I liked the art direction

Looking back at these charachter trailers. Did anyone notice that the main charachters are basically Marvel comic archetypes? I mean Lucas = Captain America Anjali = Storm

I wonder if Katarina will make the same comment than Anjali in the old NYCC video about Lucas' 'metal monstrosity' and how long it takes him to put it on each morning . I actually missed that Is also a nice conicidene for one of my arguments in this thread. XD So maybe we'll get Lucas commenting on Katarinas clothing. And thats actually one point for DSIII in my book.

And you're accusing me of profiling? Well, no. I said could. What I mean is though, the point where you can't differate reality from fiction. Just to clarify, in that case in a visual sense. And if that happens with an artstyle like WOWs you actually have a little problem. Edit: Also the profiling remark from before wasn't entirly serious.^^ Edit2: Personally, DSIII is way worse in that regard. I defend Katarina at this time but depending on her personality and/or how certain things are refrenced in the game it could still happen that I'm going to rage about the charachter.

I could tell you that [all - (typical one in a thousand)] = most, but I think you know that as well as I do. That said, I'll agree that most females, I think I'll even go so far as to say most people, aren't going to emulate cartoonish fantasy characters under normal circumstances due to the utter impracticality of such outfits. All is still correct in the sense I meant it. The one in a thousand remark is the same as exceptions that prove the rule. Furthermore said exceptions could also have other reasons to chose it. (Mental problems) Also yes, but not due to impracticality but due to them having no reason to in the first place. Its not like they are watching something that is remotly real/can aspire to.

No, because you can play a new character from Level 1 along with your friend as well? I don't think there's ever been a game where you can't do that. I'm not sure what has led you to think it would be otherwise? The only thing that changes in DS3 is that now, you don't have to worry about your friend being higher level than you. Just to clarify, you mean you can't play a high level character in a new game, that you have to play one of the unused level 0 characters? Games always offer the choice of starting a new character, well avatar given character has a bit of a different meaning in DS3. I think he means that, yes. Though, don't forget its still speculation.

I don't know why they did it. Though they didn't remove anything just greyed out the function. Some people actually already found out how to activate it again.

Evidently this is not a female. Who don't get paid to do it for a model job?

.... People like this are worse than the people who some in this thread are accusing to be sexist. How are these portrayals porn actresses? How? I mean I would understand if it was a model joke but why does everyone go immediately to porn or prostitution? Are you that dense? Actually, I'd agree with RPGmaster's statement. I'm of the opinion that there's far too many female characters in games whose appearance is designed to provide "eye candy" for the player. For some incomprehensible reason, this design decision spills over to armouring where the women in question must expose as much skin as possible, yielding the porn actress look. Case in point: what Calax, Bos Hybrid and Mera posted. Bare midriff, cleavage, plate armour bikinis and the bastard offspring of a cheongsam and miniskirt. I have a suspicion you'll have a harder time finding NFL players in overtly sexualized clothing than finding than women in bikini armour. Again, how you look has NOTHING to do with who you are. Stop profiling. Aside from that, yes. There are much more charachter designs aimed at males. Theres also much more unrealistic armor in general. Theres also tons of other **** in video games. What about it? Uneven numbers exist throughout society. These numbers do not change much for a variety of reasons. Even if the source is mostly treated. NUMBERS aren't the problem. Never were. (Well, you know what I mean. Naturally "numbers" still play a role for example in payment when the average male still gets paid more for the same work than the average female in most countries) In certain cases these games market themselves as "realistic" and yes. In this cases it is pretty bad because it should be an accurate or at least close to a portrayel. (Bad Case in that: Heavy Rain) However when you go fantasy and sport yourself a look that is meant to be comical/satirical, abstracting yourself from anything that is real, it becomes something else entirly. What consequence for example does that WOW armor actually have? To give an example: WOW armor vs. the disco scene in Heavy Rain WOW armor No male will think that women actually wear that (Well, <14 at least). No female will think "Hey I want to look like that Elf at all". Heavy Rain Disco Scene Females will probably shake their heads in disgust. Since its done so casually Males will ACTUALLY think that a similiar scenario normal females would be able to do the same thing. Also because "females fake their orgasm mostly anyway and have no problems stripping in public".

The female charachters were good because of their writing in FNV. Not because of their Gamebryo looks. How can you make this guess already about Katarina?

Oh yeah, no. I was more refering to arm/leg pieces/helmet + shield combo. The WOW picture in question doesn't really have the upper body covered too. Just something for thos breasts which doesn't really protect..

Apparently some guy made the multiplayer work http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/show...d.php?t=1828677 He doesn't say how though.

Big Huge is a subsidiary of 38. They acquired them in 2008 I think. Random Stuff: 38 Studios was founded by that guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Schilling

.... People like this are worse than the people who some in this thread are accusing to be sexist. How are these portrayels porn actresses? How? I mean I would understand if it was a model joke but why does everyone go immediatly to porn or prostution? Are you that dense?

Wait what? Who are you talking to? Or about? I'm pretty sure he means the steam forums.