Karranthain
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I agree, that'd be a bit too much I'd be fine with 4 or 5 armour slots myself (the standard). And keeping with the theme of fantasy designs, I present to you the White Lions of Chrace : What I like about this particular design is the contrast between the very ornate and sophisticated armour (particularly the gemmed cuirass) and the cloak fashioned from a lion's skin, which gives it a more tribal feel. I'd assume it'd be heavy as hell though. But such is the price of looking menacing Oh, and I really like plumed helmets. -
Getting slightly off-topic there guys... As for the armour I've posted - absolutely, the artist got a bit carried away with the greaves (which should've ended at the knee). The bow doesn't look very functional either. All the same, I like the detail on the armour and the overall look - hey, it doesn't have spikes or bladed gauntlets, gigantic shoulderpads, flaming skulls etc. That alone makes it great in this day and age
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On the topic of favourite fantasy designs, I'd like to mention Guard of the Citadel (or Fountain Guard) from the Lord of the Rings movies. The plumed helmed is probably quite heavy, but within the realm of possibility, I'd say The cloak and the cloth fit nicely with the elegant cuirass.
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Snowy landscapes are, by far, one of my most favourite. Icewind Dale, need I say more?
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Yeah - and the bow's a little "off" as well, but in general it looks fairly practical as far as fantasy designs go. I prefer the version in red though. In any case, I'm perfectly fine with a small concession here and there, as long the overall look's good - and in this case I think that's provided in spades In fact, I was thinking we could perhaps exchange our favourite fantasy designs for this page and the next perhaps? Let's see your favourites!
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Vampires used to be cool : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aa8B7hIynE (this one contains spoilers) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kfi6swOeDM
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It is my hope as well. Hopefully Forton won't be stuck in the DnD's cliched representation of the monk either. But with the freedom of equipment it shouldn't be the case, as you've pointed out.
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And here's a companion piece to the one I've previously posted : It retains a similar style - it's distinctly fantasy, with very ornate design, but (correct me if I'm wrong) it looks practical enough. Doesn't stretch my suspension of disbelief too much at least.
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And this, I suppose, is the basis of the counterfactual assumption that historical armour was drab and boring to look at. As you've pointed out, it was anything but (most of the time). khaki uniforms were pioneered, iirc, by the British army in the Boer War. Boers wearing green jackets sniping on the veldt were at an advantage over the red-coated line. The history of camouflage is fascinating, but fatally O/T. If you think about medieval armour and warfare, colourful garb makes complete sense. You have a load of men clad head-to-toe in armour attempting to kill each other. Their only tactical recognition insignia are shield devices, crests on helms and patterned surcoats. Fascinating nevertheless As for the "colourful garb" - it indeed makes sense; as you've said it served as means of identification amidst the chaos of battle. Ornaments, colourful (and by extension expensive) garments were signs of high social status and affluence - in practical terms they would notify the enemy that perhaps it would be worth it to try and ransom such individuals, instead of slaughtering them outright. Even regular footsoldiers more often than not purchased their own equipment; uniforms weren't that common. Some armours were intended to intimidate the enemy etc. I'll write a more detailed post pertraining to this particular facet of the design as soon as I'll have more time Here's an example of a really nice fantasy ornamented design. The mask and the detail on the armour's really nice; at the same time it looks usable and respects the verisimilitude (save for the bow).
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And this, I suppose, is the basis of the counterfactual assumption that historical armour was drab and boring to look at. As you've pointed out, it was anything but (most of the time).
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Four is the most likely number (helm, chest, boots and gloves). It'd be great if you could wear something underneath (or over) your armour, but I wouldn't count on that.
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A fantasy design for the rogues/mages: I like the cloak in particular. Sligtly similar to the Aloth design : I must say I'd definitely prefer this practical direction instead of the usual robes for the mages. What are your thoughts?
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Very nice, indeed. One wonders how often your beard gets snagged by the chainmail hanging down in front of one's face. That'd get irritating right quick. Still, it is a good look. That one's pretty neat as well.
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Yeah, those are of Rus origin, here's more : I must say I really love this particular style. It's a very eclectic mix of various influences. And it looks very colourful.
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And to add further proof that historical doesn't have to equal drab and boring : The knight in the forefront looks especially nice. I really like the helmet.
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Those are quite similar; Sōhei formed into big units though (very much like the knight military orders). Either would be fine for the purpose of the game. Both seem much more interesting than the stereotype of a Shaolin monk present in most RPGs, at least in my opinion.
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As Elerond has pointed out, the game won't have any equipment restrictions (we've been told that if we wish, we could equip our mage character with plate armour and a greatsword). I'd assume that the chosen class dictates the combat role, but not necessarily the means of fulfilling it. We could speculate that the warrior monk would have a stronger connection to his soul, effectively becoming a mage/fighter hybrid (but with a stronger focus on the latter). Perhaps he'd have a natural resistance to the magic, etc. Besides, Sōhei usually didn't use much armour, just simple robes. As I've mentioned, they seem to be a much more original choice (they're rarely potrayed in games). Not to mention that they were actually militant and participated in armed conflicts. In that respect they seem to make much more sense. And last, but not least, their look (as evidenced by the posted artwork) is rather unique.
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As I said here I personally believe the Glanfathan will be based on a Celtic culture (based on very little evidence, admittedly) and as such they'd look a bit more like this The Celts were renowned for their berserkers. Definitely, I'm getting strong Celtic vibes just from the name. The artwork posted by Vargr fits the bill This one does as well, it's a rather eclectic mix of various influences. And another :
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And what if the monks were based on the Japanese Sōhei (warrior monks) instead? Much more original, not to mention probable. Their weapon of choice was the pictured Naginata, but they also used spears, staves, swords and bows.
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And here's another for the more primitive cultures, perhaps Glanfathan berserkers? Gotta love those Saxon helmets.
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I demand no tutorial.
Karranthain replied to anubite's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
The way it was done in BG2 was the best, I think. It was a small module, seperate from the game where you could (but didn't have to) learn the ropes. It wouldn't hurt if that little sequence served as an introduction to the world of PE, as per GhoulishVisage's suggestion.
