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Well, people were adamant for few years now about listening to the experts. And who is a better expert on mockery of democracy then good old Alex? If he says there was something wrong with US election I believe him wholeheartly 😉 @Gromnir care to explain what the ruling of judge Alito about votes in PA means?

I don't think you understand what C-SPAN nad NPR are. You might want to read up about them.

I don't think that there is governmental media in USA.

I'm not american so I observe from the outside and I'm talking in much broader sense then "Republican victim complex". I live in a country that had censorship and here media pushed the one and only approved politically corrected view. And I give warnings when I see a country that is going full ahead in that direction. Look who's spinning conspiracy theories now.

And in this case it's good that at least some news networks did broadcast. But what if all news networks decided that they will not broadcast anything from republican government or republican party at all? And then the audience would have no means to hear the message, because they wouldn't know there is a message to be heard. And I find censorship like this extremely dangerous. I also don't consider media outlets to be audiences. They are platforms on which the messenger and their audience can meet. Just like newspapers, radio internet and such. I do understand that this is not a simple issue, but a complicated one and details would need to be clarified, but I don't think a high level of censorship is in anyones best interest. Well the hyperbole was invented for a purpose, and that purpose was to magnify the point.

And yet again you completely ignore the "if they want to" part and now you try to insinuate something I never said. I'm talking about free speech and censorship. Never mention anything about right to an audience if anything I talked about the right to not be cut off from your (willing) audience. And suggesting that free speech means someone can breach your private property is just bonkers. Why instead of making up crazy stories you answer the question of why you hate people having free speech rights? I can even get you started: "I support my corporate masters to censor people because..." fill free to fill up the blanks. So it's ok to take away people rights just because it's not assassination or slavery?

It feels good that the laudmouths that criticized you for a long time finnaly are forced to admit you were right all along. It could only felt better if this came from Merkel https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/france/20201105-macron-urges-europe-to-strengthen-border-controls-after-terror-attacks

I don't understand this though. It's like saying you are ok with assassination and slavery as long as it's not government engaging in such. I would need more indepth explanation. I understand that this is how it's worked in US. But I don't see statements about how it is or was to be arguments of why it suppose to be like this. "Because that's how it always been" is not a very compelling argument for me.

You purposely omitted "if they want to" part, why? Imagine a different situation you want to stop and listed to the guy but a police officer forces you to keep walking. You would say it's a violation of your right, but if a CEO of some company would do that you seem fine with it, why? That's what I don't understand in the mentality some of the posters show here. You all seem to be fine by literally everyone censor free speech as long as it's not the government.

Caging someone in an empty room and saying "you can say whatever you want" is hardly a free speech to me. An important part of free speech is the ability for someone to listen to what people have to say if they want to. This was taken from people. Censorship is a free speech issue. I've seen plenty. I posted about it and Darkpriest posted enough above so I wont repeat. But seeing that something obviously taken place is not the same as producing evidence that a specific party did this. Finding a mass grave for example is clearly an evidence of mass murder but evidence for proving who did it is a different matter.

Nice definition. Fits you 😊 Mine is: Free speech is when you can speak your mind and government will protect your right to do so from anyone even from itself.

Irrelevant as US election is not based on popular vote. It's like football team claiming they had more corner kicks when they lost the match. Evidence will be shown before the court. Yeah. I forgot US citizens have freedom of speech. Except for work, media, public life, personal life, internet and their diaries.

It never stops amazing me how much the land of free speech defends censorship when it happens to someone else. It doesn't bother anyone that media decide what people can and cannot hear from government? If this would be the will of the people then I would agree. As this was clearly a fraud I say Trump should use every legal option to make this right. I would even say that he has an obligation not as a candidate but as a president to make sure american people weren't robbed.

I've read that media cut off presidents speech midway through. So US passed the Belarus and went straight to NK.

Give them a break. They have to print them, fill them up and then count. It takes time.

4:1 ratio? To quote one of the candidates: C'mon man.

So 80% to 20% dubious at best. This is Belarus level of fraud.

I find the reports about mail in votes disturbing. It's mathematically impossible to be so close in voting boots and so far in mail in. It seems like only Biden voters used mail in. It has scam written all over.

Poland is also invested in not having terrorist attacks. Any sayings for that? Jeez, this guy belongs in retirenment house, not White House... https://www.google.com/amp/s/meaww.com/amp/joe-biden-granddaughter-natalie-beau-biden-mistake-error-cnn-video-crackhead-son-hunter-delaware

What is happening to results right now? Feels like there is a coup brewing by Biden and his cronies.

How many times will this question be asked? And how anyone with at least basic education and grasp of reality can even ask this question?

Who are they afraid of? Trump supporters or Biden supporters? Honest answer to that question should tell everything about who people should vote for.