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Then all hope is lost! I don't like people touching IPs that they haven't created on their own.... same as Bethesda does with Fallout, for example.

Yeah..it's about time. But even hen we don't know whether it's a qualoity game or not. As for JA3: Is SirTech even still in business?

STALKER? Is that still alive? LOL sorry but I don't get my hopes up for abandon ware.

And we also know that the Russkies often try but always fail. Sorry, but if Sir Tech doesn't pull the fathoms, I don't see much hope for that project.

I just figured that out.

No, read my previous post.

It's kind of a russian plough that is pulled by three strong horses. Edit: Yeah Brian is the lead designer on PNJ. But I love the artworks from Leon. It reminds me of the dirty feeling of Fallout and Bloodlines....something NWN2 lacked, unfortunately...

Maybe Ferg still holds a grudge against the Troika from the old Interplay days...

I wonder why Obsidian didn't hire the Troika.... Leon is working at Blizzard though....

What Sand tries to say is that he hates Gothic 3 because it's 3rd person. Tee-Hee!

There's no "issue" to be resolved. You're just a stubborn prick as always Hades....Sand I mean.

Crunch time for short periods can be very productive... that's at least what I experience. I feel I often become most creative when I'm under time pressure... but don't overdo it, you you may turn into a zombie. Just look at EA.

You don't, others do. And vice versa. Case closed. Happy?

Read the article now.

@Sand My understanding is that you seek a compromise, having both 3rd Person and FPV at the same time. As I and alanschu already pointed out some previous pages, it's not that easy to please everyone. Please read the "Why is Garret and the attached camera on his belly a bad thing" post again. I think this whole discussion overflew into the wrong direction anyway... it's really not about the view, but how well the game is designed and what view is best suitable for the sort of gameplay.... Gothic 3, BG2, Deus Ex, System Shock2, Thief etc etc.... There's a reason why those games have their own strenghts. But I digress.... More importantly than fighting about "immersion" and about the POV is that developers shouldn't go out and try to do the ultimate thing that pleases everyone. I rather want the devs to have a clear vision what they're trying to accomplish and then sort out/design the right POV to deliver the experience effectively. Not only is putting options like a toggle a very tedious task, but also it just doesn't make sense. I for one don't play Gothic 3 in FPV either, even if I can, but they just didn't get it right. Also, conversations or the combat system etc (not to mention the range of facial expressions...which is lacking there) would reveal G3's weaknesses in FPV. There're certainly a lot more details why developers often have to chose.... Doing one POV right >> putting everything in but make it mediocre.

Okay, this argument is over. You are going into the realm of personal insults so there is no more point in discussing this any further. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You feel personally insulted because you just can't argue properly, that's all.

What is there to get? What does a cat have to do with anything about computer gaming, camera view, and design? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And so the cat bites herself into her own tail (again).

It is narrow because you can only look what is right in front of you and that is it. First Person view does not take into account of all the visual range of human perception and it can't. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're talking about "visual range of human perception"? Go take a biomedical engineering course to understand something about that topic, then come back. You want to see the bells & whistles of your character, that's all. Dressing up like a doll is fun, my sister liked that when she was a little girl too. But to me that's not critical to get "immersed" into the game. In FPV, I craft my own experience without thinking how nice my dress looks. Ohhh look at this! New shiny armour! Teh immershoun!!!

And that doesn't make one bit of sense. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because you don't get it?

Like I said, I don't mind there being First Person view in a CRPG just as long as I get my third person view along with it, give the player the choice between the two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And so the cat bites herself into it's own tail....

In FPV, you can look anywhere. On the sky, on your shoes etc etc.... how is that narrow? Do your own eyes hover somewhere over your shoulder, or are they still in your eye sockets?

Regardless of what others may think, you are actually allowed to have personal preference and taste. You do not need to defend and justify what you personal enjoy in a game. I really do not understand this movement where everyone has to like FPS games... I remember a time when we had multiple genera's of Games! RPG, Platform, Puzzle, Adventure, Action, Simulations, Sports, Beat em ups & FPS Games, Plus every combination of any or all of the above... and each was a valid choice for what you as the player were allowed to enjoy. But somewhere down the line someone decided everyone had to Enjoy FPS Games and World of Warcraft... and I had always hoped that in the year 2007 we would have more choice, not less. Silly silly me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Truth is that the year 2007 offers more choices than let's say.... 10 years ago. Having the choice between jump&run, dungeon crawler or Flight simulation is hardly a valid choice for me. God thanks those times are over.... I look forward to the broad and interesting spectrum of games that get released in 2007...

Oh well, have it your way Sand. That's fine. But it's not fine to spoil people who are actually fond of FPV. Remember, Sand is not supposed to be Evil Hades.... or did I miss something?

Did you ever watch the movie "Bad Taste"?

Maybe you just played the wrong games. If you grabbed some dull FPS like Call of Duty, then it's your own fault. But whether First Person or not, that game would suck anyway.