Chairchucker

Bro. I literally just posted a reply into the void of the old thread. This is pretty upsetting. Wait I got it back with CTRL Z 'The truth doesn't matter?' To steal a quote from a movie I don't remember the name of, 'you've asked that question in the form of a lie.' (It was that law movie with Sacha Baron Cohen and some other guys) Yes, we absolutely judge people on our perceptions of them based on what they say and do, rather than what they tell us about themselves. If anyone ever asks 'who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?' the answer is, 100% of the time, 'my lying eyes'. If what someone says about themself does not line up with what I observe about them, I go with what I observe about them, every single time. SJWish? I mean frankly, it's a stupid insult and it's been my observation that people who use SJW as a pejorative are statistically unlikely to have anything I consider worthwhile to say. But in this specific instance, it just doesn't make sense: I'm just saying that the evidence of people's words and actions will always be more telli9ng than the claims they make about themselves. Regarding the actual point of contention, let's look at racism. Now, I don't know that I would necessarily say that you are racist. What I WOULD say, is that when you consistently deny that racism is a problem, when your reaction to people producing studies that have shown systemic racism is active in the USA is to handwave it and say 'agree to disagree' or say 'but whatabout these other countries which are surely more racist', and not be at all willing to engage with the evidence that racism is a problem and commit to being a part of a solution, you are a part of the problem. To steal another quote I can't remember the origin of, 'if you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.' If people call out racism and your reaction is to pejoratively call them 'woke' or 'SJW', you may not be racist, but the distinction is not significant enough to matter.

I haven't really been following the slapfight you've been having with whomever it was, but I'm going to guess it'll be something like 'consistently supporting those in power/the status quo even when they are oppressive.' I was simply suggesting that what you say about whether you are any of those things is largely irrelevant.

Little bemused at the 'irrespective of what I say' bit. We don't let self reporting determine whether we consider people racist. Donald Trump called himself the 'least racist person he knows' or something along those lines, but also told a bunch of American women of colour to 'go back to their country'. Michael Richards said 'I'm not even racist, that's the crazy thing' soon after going on a tirade in which he repeatedly used the 'n' word, and said that 50 years ago he would've been able to lynch a black man. Sometimes, we've gotta ignore what people say about themselves, when it doesn't match up with what we can observe about their behaviour.

So, which of the two Lizzies are you talking about here?

I just watched the Disney live action Pinocchio. More like mediocchio. I dunno it was fine I guess. There were moments of charm, and a bunch of stuff that kinda went nowhere.

Scarlett was fantastic in Jojo Rabbit imo. Also that movie was just fantastic in general.

Apparently Rings of Power is getting overall positive reviews. I'm sure I'll enjoy it somewhat, but I'm one of those strange beasts who doesn't care at all about adherence to source material.

Education isn't useless. I want more educated people in my country, not fewer.

I couldn't care less if it's being abused. I doubt it's any significant amount, the majority would probs prefer not to waste their time on a degree they don't want. The whole country is improved if its population is educated. More qualified people, more doctors, etc.

Education should be free.

Actually it's Emperor's New Groove.

I don't know that I'd say I disliked The Lion King, but I do remember being miffed that people were calling it the best Disney movie ever when Aladdin had been released not even two years prior, and overall found The Lion King overrated. Great soundtrack, though.

Yeah, I enjoyed it. Not saying it's necessarily a 'good' movie, but it had some fun action.

Watched the first Ep of She-Hulk. I enjoyed it, pretty fun, some 4th wall breaks that were kinda funny. Bit of a mid credits scene that's worth sticking around for.

I'm pretty sure it's mostly about religious puritanism.

Extremely excellent movie. I prefer it to the book, too.

I will not believe in the idea of A Consequence for Trump until he is physically inside a jail cell. That said

My prediction: a great deal of very damning evidence, for a total of: 0 (zero) consequences

My condolences to your nieces on having to watch such a fantastic movie with someone with such appalling taste.

Prey is extremely good, yeah. Probs my second fave movie of the year, after Everything Everywhere.

Perhaps a little, yeah? If the word 'racist' is a sticking point, (which I get, because there are different degrees of this stuff and we here in the richer, whiter and culturally similar countries have been ignoring that continent for a while so I guess it's become the norm) I'm happy to rephrase it to 'There is almost certainly a racial component to which other countries our media focusses on.'

Some would suggest that it is good to care about the lives of black people, too. You may have heard slogans to that effect, recently. Most of that doesn't really seem to actually be remotely relevant to what I was actually saying. I'll just highlight this one bit, though. "But if malaria became mainstream in the US I can guarantee you the US media would highlight this" Here's what I'm saying: not just the US media, but also the Australian media, the UK media, etc. As I believe you've already noted, monkeypox has been observed in Africa since the 70s. When the current monkeypox 'outbreak' occurred, it was already all over Nigeria. Then it got to the UK, and suddenly news sources in the USA and Australia (not just the UK) cared enough to report on it. If Australian and US media don't care about diseases that are all over Africa, they don't really have much additional incentive to care about diseases that have hopped the ditch over to Europe. Except, of course, that the UK is a wealthier country, with white, English speaking people in it. Maybe it wouldn't hurt our media to also care when it's Africa being ravaged by disease. "So in summary the suggestion that monkeypox is a racist name is uninformed and ignores the history of this disease and how its spreading throughout the world" Cool. I wasn't talking about that, though.

It's not just 'things which affect them', it's also 'things that affect other well off white people in a completely different country or state.'

As has been noted, he got sacked because he refused to work, not because he protested. And while people have a right to peacefully protest, what they choose to protest about can tell you about the kind of person they are, and whether they have the kind of values you'd want in someone teaching children. And so, while we can defend his right to peacefully protest, we can also be quietly happy about the fact that his garbage ideology is out of schools. Additionally, what people have the right to do, legally, doesn't necessarily have any bearing on the rights of their employer. As an extreme example: I have the legal right to publicly criticise my employer, but they then have the right to determine that my continued employment is not in their best interests. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. Well that's the point, isn't it? If malaria comes in force to the USA or some other overwhelmingly white and rich country, suddenly people will care about it. Not sure what bit this is replying to. Is it the bit where I said that the 'Spanish Flu' was first observed in Kansas, or the bit where I implied that monkeypox has been in Africa for ages but didn't really make the news until it went to other, (richer, whiter) continents? Either way, it doesn't make sense as a response.

I watched the movie The Princess over the weekend. Starring Joey King of The Kissing Booth (I haven't seen it, apparently it is bad cheesy fun) fame, it is basically Die Hard in a castle tower with Joey King playing the role of The Princess, who is the John McClane stand in and makes her way down the tower, killing guards with swords and stuff. It received fairly middling reviews, which may have been a bit generous. I thoroughly enjoyed it.