Big Bottom

I watched half of Enter the Dragon last night and half of Brokeback Mountain a couple of nights before that. Tonight I managed to watch all of Bad Santa, pretty good flick but I thought the end lacked something.

This is a slightly different take on 'lightning bolt! lightning bolt!'. Edit - This should probably be in WOT, sorry!

What's a next-gen console h&s RPG?

Do you think there was a lot of pressure from WotC to deliver something that is nice and teen friendly so you can't really be believably evil, that would explain the lack of depth.

Yeah, the IE games are pretty much what I thought they'd be but NWN + exps should really have come on the DVD that's already been produced a zillion times.

Are the DVDs laid out the same as the other recent compilations? That is: BG1 DVD, TotSC CD, BG2 DVD, ToB CD, IWD DVD, HoW CD, IWD 2 CDs and I'm guessing NWN + exp DVD.

Well the lead designer of Oblivion has just started work at BHG on their first RPG so I'd say the chances are high.

A recent issue of PC Zone said the graphics weren't half-bad, considering how long it's been in development.

Not everything is fantasy. All it means is fantasy is popular. Splinter Cell, the Battlefield games, Hitman, are all not fantasy. I'm inclined to include Unreal, but my exposure to that series is limited. Half-Life. Star Wars when it's not focused on Jedi, such as in Republic Commando or Bounty Hunter (never played Bounty Hunter, I'm assuming). Battlestar Galactica, the supernatural aspects don't play that big a role, in my opinion and I don't include hearing sound in space. Firefly/Serenity, and I'm also tempted to include Farscape. Chronicles of Riddick, but not Pitch Black. In Half-Life's case it features aliens who shoot green lightning from their fingertips, by the reckoning of many in this thread that falls under the domain of fantasy. That's the problem I have with this way of categorising, fantasy/sci-fi goes from being a useful indicator of the feel of a game to a technical exercise in pigeonholing. Star Wars feels way more like traditional sci-fi than it does like traditional fantasy so I will continue to think of it as such.

So if everything's fantasy doesn't that leave the term a bit meaningless?

And Privateer 2 starred Clive 'ubermoviestar' Owen, I always regretted not playing that game more before I lost it.

I was going to list the Thief games but decided they weren't RPGs, for some reason I really want to call them RPGs. Needless to say I haven't finished any of them, I got halfway through Thief, barely finished the first level of Thief 2 and did a few missions of Deadly Shadows. All this talk about the Cradle in Thief 3 has really made me want to play through it, I'll probably be hiding under my bed after half an hour though.

No it isn't.

OK, I'm more into RPGs than any other genre but I have a pretty awful track record of finishing them. In fact, there are many classics that people lavish praise on all the time that I've barely made any headway into at all. Given that I post on Obsidian's forums all the time it's kinda weird that I've barely touched KotOR2 and I'm still at the start of Act II in NWN2, more due to technical issues in the case of NWN2 though. It's kind of the same phenomenon that I find with books sometimes. I can be completely and utterly engrossed in a book, such as Northern Lights (or Golden Compass if you're not a Brit), and yet a year and a half will pass and I'll still not have finished it. Anyway, my list is as follows...I'll keep this RPGs only as I don't have all night. Barely touched KotOR2 Fallout 2 Bloodlines Anachronox Arcanum Temple of Elemental Evil NWN2 Morrowind Gothic Gothic 2 Divine Divinity Halfway through Deus Ex Diablo Diablo 2 Oblivion Fell at the last hurdle System Shock 2 Arx Fatalis

There isn't any sorcery in Fallout, I'm guessing it's being called fantasy because it's an alternate universe type thing. I suppose Bloodlines is fantasy by the ruleset that if it has magic, it's fantasy but I still don't see KOTOR as anything but sci-fi. The Force isn't magic.

What game isn't a fantasy game, given that every single game in existence is a play on reality? If genres are to have any meaning then you have to go with style as much as anything else. By my definitions Fallout & KOTOR are sci-fi and Bloodlines is goth-horror. And to answer the question I like a bit of both, the game is more important than the setting.

You can direct connect online as well right? I seem to remember the peeps on the Nemesis forums arranging games with each other.

The Baldurdash fixpack and game text upgrade is a no brainer for playing BG, and if you're going to use Tutu the Banter upgrade looks very promising.

I'm pretty sure play-by-email is just one of the MP options for Nemesis.

Hot damn! That's the kind of rumour I like to hear!

It's worth noting that the big dungeon in BG/TotSC (Durlag's Tower) is a high point of all the IE games combined. Hard as hell but lots of fun.

What did you like about BG2 and hate about IWD? BG is more like BG2 obviously, but contains a lot of wandering around large maps and is more focused on lower levels. In BG when you level up it's a BIG deal, something that all the other D&D games (maybe not IWD) I've played don't have.

You've made your bed, now eat it.

I don't see the problem with multiple patches, the only bad aspect is the 56kers who have to download huge files. Personally I like the fact that the game is getting updated constantly. But then I have broadband.

meh.... It'd be funnier if Patrick Stewart was runnign a full powered raiding guild... whenever you start a fight he says over vent "engage" Or 'Make it so' during the buffing stage.