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I was wondering why Shryke was laughing at his own post.

Jordan actually wasn't a very good leader until later in his career anyways. He himself has admitted that his experiences while playing baseball made helped put things into perspective as he was no longer the absolute dominating force in the game. He was able to relate more with the role players on his teams. Prior to his first retirement, Jordan's competitiveness was so extreme it actually cost his team victories. It was less of a concern after they won their first championship, but the Detroit Pistons used this to their advantage. They'd work up Jordan into a competitive frenzy that he'd try to win the game by himself. Sure he'd score 54 points, but the rest of the team was effectively neutralized and Detroit would win. It wasn't until right before he retired that I started to see quality leadership out of Michael, and his time away from the sport definitely made him a much better leader. He was always a lead by example man, but he was very, very critical of teammates, particularly in practice. He pretty much single-handedly pushed Brad Sellers right out of his pro career. His time away from the sport made him a much better verbal leader as well. It wasn't until right before he retired (1993 finals) that I really started to see his motivation start kicking in. During slumps he was much more outspoken in time outs, encouraging his teammates to keep their heads, and how they're all in this together and if they all keep their heads together they'd make it through this. In the final game the team was struggling in the 4th quarter offensively, and it was affecting their confidence on the defensive end as well. During a time out, he told his guys that they didn't have to worry about scoring anymore. Just bring it together on defense, and they'd win the game. If they needed to score, he'd take care of it. He assured his team that if they just focused on the defense, they'd win the championship. His teammates rallied around him (which was unusual in and of itself), locked it down offensively, and let him have free reign offensively to start the comeback. There was a marked improvement in the confidence of the team as a whole, and it culminated perfectly when John Paxson cashed a three pointer with 4 seconds left to go ahead by one. Horace Grant blocked Kevin Johnsons attempt to score and the rest it history. However, the game before Jordan seemed miffed at his teammates for their inability to score, and when B.J. Armstrong tried to congratulate Jordan for scoring on an impressive drive to get a three-point play, he sort of shrugged him off. His actions were very confusing to his teammates. After the break from the game, Jordan's critical appraisals of his teammates had gone away. The only time he got on a player's case is if he felt the player was dogging it, but not because of lack of talent. His motivation had also expanded beyond verbal lashings too. His time away from the game only made him a better player in the end. Besides, all Messier did was play them to the Conn Smythe in 84. Gretzky still lead them

Why can't a person, when the challenge and excitement of a sport leaves him, go try a different one? Tsk tsk. The fact that he was able to come back, and in the first full year lead his team to a record 72 wins is proof enough for me

Ah, but then that's only taking a small part of the defintion of "role."

Well, MJ could control Rodman. I wouldn't consider Jagr and the likes to be nearly as much of a nuisance as him. I declare Jordan bestest leader of all timeses.

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Gretzky's defensive capabilities were overshadowed by his offensive capabilities. I have old Playoff games on tape (thanks NHL TV for showing classic games), and Gretzky is fighting it out in the corners of his own end for the puck too. He wanted to win, and would do anything for it. Too bad Moose couldn't get Jagr and the rest of talent-laden New York to actually play together.

Why should you care if the genre itself is long dead? I mean, as long as there are fun games out there that are supported by their respective companies. As for my "all-encompassing" statement, I was referring to computer games. And isn't "yourself" a role in and of itself? Why does a role have to be different from how you are?

I think it's just that the fast players are VERY fast. Pronger has a speed rating of 81 or so, but has a hard time playing defense. Don't even think about pinching up with him. Bergeron on the other hand has a speed of 94 or something, and can be in the slot, and still be first man back on defense.

Hades is just wierd like that. He spends more time asking "what's the point" than anything else on these forums.

Gretzky was as one-dimensional as Michael Jordan. Messier the greatest leader in sports history?

Like the National Guard.

Apparently not to him.

Well, they do have a couple of young stars in Datsyuk and Zetterburg. Although Datsyuk is already out of the running for the Yzerman successor at this point given his demands of money and then jumping ship to Russia because things weren't going the way he wanted. He'd have to make quite a recovery to reattain Yzerman successor status

The problem with his definition is that it's all encompassing. What game do you not play as a role? Whether it be "chess player" or "The Nameless One?" American Football may have parts of the game played by foot, but it's still a misleading name. A game of football could realistically be played by never kicking the ball outside of the opening kickoffs. It's usage for the Western Soccer makes more sense. I wonder how it came to get its name. And yes, us Canadians call it soccer

Joe Sakic is a terrific player. Yzerman has been my favourite player for many years now. Gotta love a guy that can barely limp onto the ice, that's still the best player on a very talented team despite have bummed knees that require surgery in the off season. Or a guy that, despite having a potentially career ending injury in his last game played, still wants to keep playing in spite of the additional year off due to the strike. A fantastic two way forward, and the longest running captain in league history for good reason.

Hello, I've waited here for you Everlong Tonight I throw myself in two Outta the red, out of her head she sang Come down And waste away with me Down with me Slow how You wanted it be I'm over my head, out of her head she sang And I wonder When I sing along with you If everything could ever feel this real forever If anything could ever be this good again The only thing I'll ever ask of you You gotta promise not to stop when I say when She said Breathe out So I can breathe you in Hold you in And now I know you've always been Out of your head, out of my head I sang And I wonder When I sing along with you If everything could ever feel this real forever If anything could ever be this good again The only thing I'll ever ask of you You gotta promise not to stop when I say when She said <something whisperiffic!> And I wonder If everything could ever feel this real forever If anything could ever be this good again The only thing I'll ever ask of you You gotta promise not to stop when I say when!

I don't think Messier's accomplishments in Edmonton mean anything to Volourn. But one player does not represent the league. He's just unhappy because his favourite player is retiring. Although to state that Gretzky wasn't a leader is a bit, misguided. He wasn't as outspoken as Messier, but the two definitely fed off of each other. The "Boys on the Bus" documentary was very enlightening in that aspect.

The reason why I ask is because he comes in stating matter-of-factly that it's, "by definition," a game that lets the user play a role. I just asked him where he found this defacto definition that lets him say "by definition." Ironically, American Football is rarely played with the feet...

Well, he said that a roleplaying game, by definition, is a game that lets you play a role. I suspect his "definition" is just the words involved in the statement, which is hardly a definition at all.

I wonder how many people were in similar shoes as us, denying the oncoming of Gretzky and Lemieux while their favourite players like Lafleur and Esposito were in their twilight?

Haha, one the comes off the top of my head is the bar run by the Malkavian twins in Bloodlines. It's rave type music which I typically don't care for, but I felt it fit the situation so perfectly. Same goes for some of the Lucky Money music in Deus Ex. I also liked the Jenova fight music (and the boss fight music in general) of Final Fantasy 7. I can still play the fight music flawlessly in my head, despite not playing the game since like 1999 or so :D).

A large part of military training is attempts to allow the soldier to disconnect themselves emotionally from a situation. This is obviously done in an attempt to make them more efficient killers. Furthermore, the bulk of a city's police force are not trained for large scale situations. Riot police are police officers that have more specific training in large scale riots for instance. The mere fact that police officers have specialized teams such as SWAT is evident that police are not trained for a wide variety of emergencies, particularly unusual ones. On a final note, a typical police force does not have the manpower to effectively deal with a city wide crisis, and certainly not the evacuation of an entire city. However, Volourn would like to think that the relatively small scale and isolated incident of the World Trade Center is somehow comparable to the evacuation of an entire city. Lets see how the NYPD would handle the evacuation of NYC (a city where the local police force is complaining of being overworked and understaffed as it is, with decreasing numbers of officers as a result. A city where the local police force feels as though their mayor "treats them like garbage and pays them for [shyte]." The same police force that the current challenger for mayor feels that NYC requires the hiring of an additional 1,000 police officers). Police may be better at dealing with the civilian population, but the addtional bodies, with a no nonsense attitude, of military men is always appreciated. Particularly if situations arise where martial law is invoked (i.e. when looting becomes rampant).

I'd like a little proof that the Police force is as highly trained to detail with extreme situations as the military is. Until then, you're just lying.

Where did you find your definition of role-playing game?